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All;

Good morning to each of you, I trust that the day's looking promising and you're all well, warm and dry.

While this issue is something I've been monitoring for much of my lifetime and in days past wrote our local judge a letter regarding something similar, here we have yet another example of who the problem with firearms really is.

​Spoiler alert - it's the judicial system and the government - because if they were not, they have the ability to fix it.

​Link

https://globalnews.ca/news/10282359/south-surrey-shooting-arrests/

With the understanding I'm not a lawyer here, but we had a high profile fellow in the Sikh community who gets his house and Tesla shot to literal Swiss cheese in the middle of the night.

Someone was obviously mad at him or someone in the house, but not mad enough for it to be called a "hate crime" we'll note up front.

Then there's the bit about the two 16 year old suspects arrested and we'll quote here.

"Officers also arrested two 16-year-old boys for careless use of a firearm and discharging a firearm with intent. The two have been subsequently released, and no charges have been laid."

Wait, what?

Where is the unlawful use of a firearm without a PAL?

How they came into possession of the firearm without a PAL is a mystery as well.

There is also something about being in possession of a loaded firearm in a place unsafe to do so?

Surely we can make a case for unsafe storage when we're blasting at the Tesla can we not?

Then we are told that they're released already, while other Canadians, arrested for other reasons, still sit in remand centers for more than two years.

​The news of course fails to mention any of the firearms were not lawfully obtained and leaves me with the impression that any 16 year old can go pick up whatever grenade launcher they'd like at the Surrey Home Hardware....

​In my view, those who could change this situation, seem to keep it going because it serves their purpose of taking away the firearms from those who are not now, never were and statistically will not be the problem.

Why exactly they wish to do that is a question I'll leave the gentle reader to answer on their own,

While I do apologize for this negative start to your Friday, I thought you all should know.

Have a good weekend regardless.

Dwayne

Befuddling, isn't it !

New 2 99s;
Morning my friend, I hope all in your part of the world are well today.

Thanks for the reply to an admittedly negative post, which on one hand I am loath to do, yet on the other believe that perhaps it's useful in the event we need hard data for our side of this discussion.

Also I'm aware that they've been arrested and released, but that the Crown Prosecutor will now assess the evidence and they can be arrested and charged further.

However I do still note that one of the evil instigators in the Coutts 4 has been in a remand center for nearly 2 years for bringing beer and pizza to a meeting...

That's not nothing as some might say, you know?

Also locally we've had people charged with all manner of unsafe storage issues and it's fairly clear they were additional charges added because the CP and RCMP were so inclined at the time.

Befuddling is for sure one term we could use Paul and honestly a more polite one than I had rattling about, bouncing off the corners of my Teutonic skull this morning.

All the best to you all this weekend.

Dwayne

Thanks for your post, Dwayne.

The bolded part above depends on which problem you’re talking about.

From the citizens’ perspective, crime and violence are the problem. Legal firearms owners are not the problem.

From corrupt elites’ point of view, citizens, and not the elites, holding the real power in the world is the problem. Legal firearms owners are exactly that problem. They are what stands between the elite ruling class and uncontested power.

Jordan;
Good morning my old friend, I hope that you all are seeing the sun too and that all in your fine family are well.

There was never a doubt in my mind that you had any doubts whatsoever to my rhetorical question, "Why exactly they wish to do that is a question I'll leave the gentle reader to answer on their own."

As in less than no doubt sir, none...

My rationale for putting up some of this stuff is to possibly provide data points for those who might encounter people who are still interested in the truth.

We've got to believe or perhaps better said Jordan, at least hope there are still those Canadians out there who are willing to learn?

As is usual with your posts Jordan, I find nothing to disagree with.

All the best to you all this weekend, despite the interesting times we find ourselves in.

Dwayne

If I can beat a dead horse, sounds like you folks have the very same problem we have - the only people that ever get charged and probably convicted are the law abiding conservatives. Thanks to our wonderful DOJ, Attorney General, and President for the two tier justice system. I hope that we all can survive these times.

Gang bangers will never be a threat to a government. They can keep their carnage to an acceptable level. Armed Patriots are another, and more worrisome matter.
At all cost, keep your arms.

Government is encouraging and enabling the illegal posession and nefarious use of firearms by criminals. On the other hand gov't are trying under every means they can to make illegal and restrict the use of firearms by gov't approved licensed firearms owners. Why they are doing that is crystal clear, they do not fear crime and criminals as they do not threaten gov't agenda. In reality they need/want gun crime to escalate to justify further restrictions on law abiding gun owners. What gov't fears is a fed up general population that may/could take up arms against that same gov't. That tells me their future agenda for Canadian citizens contains much that we should fear.

Dwayne,

Indeed, sir. I knew what you were alluding to, and I wanted to belabour the point a little bit.

I’d like add to the conversation but betwixt Dwayne and Jordan y’all got it covered.

Good weekends to everybody!

GRF;
Top of the morning my friend, I trust you and your wonderful family are all well.

Upon reading my original post this morning, I realized I'd typed "The news of course fails to mention any of the firearms were not lawfully obtained" and should have instead typed none of them were.

Sometimes when I get typing or as you know talking, my fingers and tongue get going faster than my grammar and diction instructions can keep up with.

The Good Lord willing, tomorrow I'll be participating in our local gun club's 73rd annual sheep count and am looking forward to that.

Barring it being canceled for the beer flu - which in retrospect is a wee bit crazy that we were forced into a place to cancel such a very out of doors activity - but anyways I think I've only missed one since '87 or there about.

Further irony is that when I started back when, I was assigned to be an area captain of the section of the mountain that more or less comes down close to where we moved to a few years later.

Again life is interesting on a lot of levels and certainly not all gloom and doom.

All the best to you all GRF and the rest out there as well.

Dwayne

If I went counting sheep I would likely fall asleep, however it sounds like a good time.
PS....how many Sheep are you seeing?

673;
Good almost afternoon my friend, I trust you're all well so far this weekend.

It looks as though the weather might turn on us tonight and that might mean a few of the folks who were hoping to make it down from further away will stay home where it's safe.

As to how many we're going to see, with the Mycoplasma ovipneumoniae (M. ovi) that's been knocking the stuffing out of the herd, I'm hoping we see 50 but am not holding my breath.

Its really tough on so many levels as we had upwards of perhaps 500 here before the first big die off in the late '90's or perhaps it was 2000, would have to look to be sure on that date.

Anyways they'd bounced back not too, too bad, to a few hundred animals and then they got hit with this.

The herd on the other side of the valley has ear mites and that's not doing them any good either.

I believe the Ashnola and Similkameen herds have mites too and am not sure that M. ovi isn't over in the Grand Forks herd.

Tough days to be a wild sheep in southern BC.

We'll see who all shows up tomorrow as to how much country we can cover.

All the best.

Dwayne

Dwayne, thanks for this. Interesting move by the gang involved to have underage people do the shooting. It is very troubling that these individuals were released so quickly.

A clear sign of the double standard of our times. One set of rules if you embarrass the government and another if you do not follow the law and are of a special class.