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What a beautiful 99 !! Never seen a straight stock with a cheek piece. Can you tell us more about the gun?
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I assembled it from pieces. Barrel from eBay, Butt from GB, forearm from Fajen before they folded, everything else from my inventory. I basically waited 30 years for a buttstock to match the forend (then 3 weeks later, found another). I had earlier bought a bunch of straight stocks with cheek pieces from Fajen; I suspect they were available at fire sale prices because of low demand. I didn't use any of them because they did not do justice to the forearm. I seriously thought about removing the cheek because I have a good friend and repeat customer who is left handed, and I thought he might like it . The stock was grotesquely over size, and by the time I got it trimmed, defined the receiver cheeks, cut the flutes and started making some shape out of it I for some reason did not want to cut the cheekpiece off. I did recontour it because it was far too large at first.
My path was evolutionary, if not especially logical. I bought the barrel because I wanted a 7-30. The only inletted forearm I had with the long lug spacing was this fancy one, and I removed a lot of mass from it. Then a takedown receiver (originally a 300 G bought from a guy who said there was a Sad Story behind it, but never revealed its secret) had to be cleaned up and rust blued before adding all the internals. Meanwhile, a fancy straight stock appeared on GB, so I snagged it. Magazine carrier is 30-30, no modification needed. Lever is 22 HP; it slip closed without any droop. I selected a bolt that headspaced properly, but I never knew its origin. I temporarily put a Lightfoot mount on it so I could hopefully hit something with it, and the results are there.
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WoW Sam! I'm not sure how I missed this 'til now.., but Wow! Very pretty pieces of wood, and nice target!
What did your barrel start as? What cartridge rotor are You using?
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I don't know anything about the barrel. It is a custom bearing only the caliber for inscriptions, but advertised as unfired. I bought it on eBay and built everything else around it. It is a takedown, so I rescued an old rusty 300 G receiver, 30-30 carrier, lever from a 22 HP, forearm from my inventory, butt from GB and so on. I broke the barrel in using the shoot, clean, cool method, and fired the target at the end of the break-in period.
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WoW Sam! I'm not sure how I missed this 'til now.., but Wow! Very pretty pieces of wood, and nice target!
What did your barrel start as? What cartridge rotor are You using? SOOOOOO what is your model designation on that beautiful piece. Norm
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Not sure, Norm. This is one of those projects that took unexpected turns. My original plan was a $500 shooter, partially because of the no-name barrel. It had already been dovetailed for the long forearm lug spacing, and the only one I had already inletted for that dimension is the one you see. It had been composting for 30 or more years, waiting for a suitable match in a buttstock, so I decided to use it. Shortly after I opened the channel to fit the heavier barrel, the butt showed up on GB so I snagged it. From that point on, there was no turning back; I had to make a nice one.
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I just found an E in 250-3000 but with craze stocks on it and a lever thats been heated and bent to fit a pistol grip. Iam thinking of getting it putting on a set of new G stocks a proper lever with great case color. I have an E in 30-30 and 1 in 303 and feel the need to salvage the 250 .
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Dang sharp use of parts, what a beauty, love the wood .mb
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WoW Sam! I'm not sure how I missed this 'til now.., but Wow! Very pretty pieces of wood, and nice target!
What did your barrel start as? What cartridge rotor are You using? SOOOOOO what is your model designation on that beautiful piece. Norm ..." one piece at a time,..."
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JeffG, I left out an important component. Although the 30-30 carrier worked fine without modification, the cartridge guide did not, nor was that unexpected. I ended up making 2 modifications to an unidentified guide which appeared identical to an early 250 guide.
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Very sharp rifle... absolutely gorgeous wood 😄
Out of curiosity, are you basically limited to FP/RN in because of OAL/magazine length with the 7-30 or do shorter/lighter SP work?
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I had some 120 gr psp that I had pulled from mystery reloads, so I used them for barrel break-in. They cycle just fine in both directions. Turned out they shot ok too.
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As I told you on "the other place" that's a heckuva piece of awsome-ness! Bringing it to Noxen this year?
To my eye it appeals every bit as much as a cherry original gun (and just as valuable if not more so).
History has proven that non-original pieces of work can often far exceed the value of factory examples. Take for instance a Ballard Pacific: an original as-made example in pristine condition will set a fella back $3-4K, but if it was ministered to by someone like Schoyen, Petersen, Pope, Niedner, et al you must lay out twice or maybe three times that amount. Ditto a pristine original M1903 Springfield versus one put together by Owen, Hoffman, Griffin&Howe, etc. Both have their place, but for me once I've absorbed the details of a rifle I get bored and have to take it to the next level.
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Yes Sam, I'm curious about the feed geometry changes.
The shoulder angle of the 7-30 seems to be the more important factor through the 99. I couldn't get good feed and extract through a 30-30, and had the same bullet-stubbing-it's-nose-too-high feed problem starting into a 25-35. it worked better in a 300 Sav rotor, but still not right.
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I think the carriers get blamed for a lot of problems that are actually caused by the guide and sometimes by the auto cutoff. For that reason I developed a sequence that includes carrier operation with no guide, and a set of undersize guide pins that make guide changes a snap. The final piece is the auto cutoff, and that can be both subtle and esoteric. Sometimes I can glance at one and say, aha, this is what it needs, and sometimes it is like Edison and the light bulb all over again.
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