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Originally Posted by greydog
Lot potential poachers on this site! A look over the 'fire emphasizes the need for game laws! GD
More like conservationists who don't understand why we control 4 legged predators but raptors get a pass.


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they should be giving out tags for the damned things


They should be classifed as varmints with no closed season right along with hawks and owls.

Yep. Well maybe give owls a pass for now. They've been around forever and I never seen the damage inflicted that the skyrocketing population of unregulated hawks and eagles do.
Owls play hell on rabbits around here. Nothing as efficient as striking from above and in the dark when rabbits move the most.

ive heard of old time beagle clubs putting up "owl perches" then coating the boards with some form of acid that eats the Feet off of the owl. not a bad idea


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by greydog
Lot potential poachers on this site! A look over the 'fire emphasizes the need for game laws! GD
More like conservationists who don't understand why we control 4 legged predators but raptors get a pass.


correct


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by ShadeTree
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Originally Posted by gitem_12
they should be giving out tags for the damned things


They should be classifed as varmints with no closed season right along with hawks and owls.

Yep. Well maybe give owls a pass for now. They've been around forever and I never seen the damage inflicted that the skyrocketing population of unregulated hawks and eagles do.
Owls play hell on rabbits around here. Nothing as efficient as striking from above and in the dark when rabbits move the most.

ive heard of old time beagle clubs putting up "owl perches" then coating the boards with some form of acid that eats the Feet off of the owl. not a bad idea
Or foot hold traps on top of fence posts.


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The training school in Missouri for game wardens is the same used for the highway patrol. The wardens, which they hate being called go through much of the same training as the hp guys and then some. It's too political and very little common sense is involved. My ex wife went through the program in 1998, she is now a game warden, and I got a first hand glimpse of the idiotic ways and greed involved in the MDC. They also look at every one of us hunters as in violation of something at any given time.

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Originally Posted by gitem_12
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they should be giving out tags for the damned things


They should be classifed as varmints with no closed season right along with hawks and owls.

Yep. Well maybe give owls a pass for now. They've been around forever and I never seen the damage inflicted that the skyrocketing population of unregulated hawks and eagles do.
Owls play hell on rabbits around here. Nothing as efficient as striking from above and in the dark when rabbits move the most.

ive heard of old time beagle clubs putting up "owl perches" then coating the boards with some form of acid that eats the Feet off of the owl. not a bad idea
What a long time trapper suggested to my neighbor when the owls were killing his lambs was to set a steel leg hold trap on top of a fense post with tinfoil on the plate that trips the spring. He caught several that way.

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Originally Posted by greydog
Lot potential poachers on this site! A look over the 'fire emphasizes the need for game laws! GD
IE, government control.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by greydog
Lot potential poachers on this site! A look over the 'fire emphasizes the need for game laws! GD
More like conservationists who don't understand why we control 4 legged predators but raptors get a pass.

Ain't poaching when you eat what you kill !


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Had a nesting pair down on lake Erie, they would really work over the Gosselins. And the young Swans, before they were big enough to fly!


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See more deer hunting every year than crows. West Nile seems to wipe the crows out good when the numbers start going back up.

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Originally Posted by Jim1611
The training school in Missouri for game wardens is the same used for the highway patrol. The wardens, which they hate being called go through much of the same training as the hp guys and then some. It's too political and very little common sense is involved. My ex wife went through the program in 1998, she is now a game warden, and I got a first hand glimpse of the idiotic ways and greed involved in the MDC. They also look at every one of us hunters as in violation of something at any given time.
would she be stationed in the Dade/ Lawrence county area?

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When I lived in Manitoba, I lived by a lake where thousands of Snow Geese would roost during their migrations. I used to shoot them in the mornings and afternoons from my balcony when they left the water or were coming into roost.

I shot 1 high flyer and clipped its wing, it set its wings and I watched it land about 1000 yards away so I went to the barn hopped on my quad, and motored over to recover it. By the time I got there, no more than 10 minutes from the time I shot it, a bald eagle was on it having dinner.

When I got there the eagle flew away and all that was left of that goose was 1 leg, the entire breast and one leg were eaten, all in 10 minutes. I will never forget that.


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Originally Posted by Jim1611
The training school in Missouri for game wardens is the same used for the highway patrol. The wardens, which they hate being called go through much of the same training as the hp guys and then some. It's too political and very little common sense is involved. My ex wife went through the program in 1998, she is now a game warden, and I got a first hand glimpse of the idiotic ways and greed involved in the MDC. They also look at every one of us hunters as in violation of something at any given time.
would she be stationed in the Dade/ Lawrence county area?
I don't know where she is now. At the beginning around K.C. but I have not had any contact with her for over 25 years.

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Originally Posted by Jim1611
The training school in Missouri for game wardens is the same used for the highway patrol. The wardens, which they hate being called go through much of the same training as the hp guys and then some. It's too political and very little common sense is involved. My ex wife went through the program in 1998, she is now a game warden, and I got a first hand glimpse of the idiotic ways and greed involved in the MDC. They also look at every one of us hunters as in violation of something at any given time.

Yep…. A neighbor’s daughter, about 13 came over to my place and shot her first elk. I watched the whole episode from my patio… she walked 50 yards or so into the field, dropped to her knee and bang…one shot drop….very good.

She and her father were gutting the elk and a game warden shows up…. He does the Q&A ….checks tags etc …asks how it happened, where was the elk when you shot …where we you when you shot….THEN, like he didn’t believe her….he starts inspecting…looks carefully at the tracks, paces off distances…sees where she shot from and where the elk dropped….all was in order, just like the kid said. Proper distance from road…all ok. Then he says something like “Well, I won’t write a citation.” Dad got instantly angry….”For What?” …warden gives him a mean look and departs. Father’s take was that the guy was looking to write the kid up….and trying desperately hard to gin up a violation.

I told him I wish he had so I could get a piece of his ass when she contested the citation.

Also, once had a game warden who had been hiding in the trees come roaring up and clearly alleged that I was hunting illegally……told her “Nope, this is my land and do you want to see my license.” Well, she asked what my name was and she recognized it…. then acted disappointed and left.

I guess being a game warden is a thankless job, but one does not need to be “….” about it.

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Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by Jim1611
The training school in Missouri for game wardens is the same used for the highway patrol. The wardens, which they hate being called go through much of the same training as the hp guys and then some. It's too political and very little common sense is involved. My ex wife went through the program in 1998, she is now a game warden, and I got a first hand glimpse of the idiotic ways and greed involved in the MDC. They also look at every one of us hunters as in violation of something at any given time.

Yep…. A neighbor’s daughter, about 13 came over to my place and shot her first elk. I watched the whole episode from my patio… she walked 50 yards or so into the field, dropped to her knee and bang…one shot drop….very good.

She and her father were gutting the elk and a game warden shows up…. He does the Q&A ….checks tags etc …asks how it happened, where was the elk when you shot …where we you when you shot….THEN, like he didn’t believe her….he starts inspecting…looks carefully at the tracks, paces off distances…sees where she shot from and where the elk dropped….all was in order, just like the kid said. Proper distance from road…all ok. Then he says something like “Well, I won’t write a citation.” Dad got instantly angry….”For What?” …warden gives him a mean look and departs. Father’s take was that the guy was looking to write the kid up….and trying desperately hard to gin up a violation.

I told him I wish he had so I could get a piece of his ass when she contested the citation.

Also, once had a game warden who had been hiding in the trees come roaring up and clearly alleged that I was hunting illegally……told her “Nope, this is my land and do you want to see my license.” Well, she asked what my name was and she recognized it…. then acted disappointed and left.

I guess being a game warden is a thankless job, but one does not need to be “….” about it.

My Grandfather who has been gone for nearly 40 years went in with a young lady who had shot a deer on the farm. When the check station nazis started in on her he stopped and said “If you don’t believe she killed it, walk over there about 50 yards and bend over. I’ll get her rifle and we’lll see if she can hit you in the A$$”. They huffed and waived her through.

You are correct an important job but you don’t have to be a ….

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Locally the natives have more interest in the immature Goldens. Those carry the bi-colored tail feathers while the Balds do not.

A local tribal member was pinched years back with quite an array of parts in his rig. Neighbor (warden) said a parted-out bird was worth about $1,500.

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Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by Jim1611
The training school in Missouri for game wardens is the same used for the highway patrol. The wardens, which they hate being called go through much of the same training as the hp guys and then some. It's too political and very little common sense is involved. My ex wife went through the program in 1998, she is now a game warden, and I got a first hand glimpse of the idiotic ways and greed involved in the MDC. They also look at every one of us hunters as in violation of something at any given time.

Yep…. A neighbor’s daughter, about 13 came over to my place and shot her first elk. I watched the whole episode from my patio… she walked 50 yards or so into the field, dropped to her knee and bang…one shot drop….very good.

She and her father were gutting the elk and a game warden shows up…. He does the Q&A ….checks tags etc …asks how it happened, where was the elk when you shot …where we you when you shot….THEN, like he didn’t believe her….he starts inspecting…looks carefully at the tracks, paces off distances…sees where she shot from and where the elk dropped….all was in order, just like the kid said. Proper distance from road…all ok. Then he says something like “Well, I won’t write a citation.” Dad got instantly angry….”For What?” …warden gives him a mean look and departs. Father’s take was that the guy was looking to write the kid up….and trying desperately hard to gin up a violation.

I told him I wish he had so I could get a piece of his ass when she contested the citation.

Also, once had a game warden who had been hiding in the trees come roaring up and clearly alleged that I was hunting illegally……told her “Nope, this is my land and do you want to see my license.” Well, she asked what my name was and she recognized it…. then acted disappointed and left.

I guess being a game warden is a thankless job, but one does not need to be “….” about it.

I was telling my wife about our conversation on this thread a few minutes ago and the way so many of these "agents" are doing their job with so much zeal they seem to be anxious to find fault. I also was telling her about how they are doing themselves harm by alienating so many of us that could be a resource to them actually doing their jobs. They should be building trust with every one of us that hunt in a lawful and ethical way but most don't seem interested in that.

My cousins that live near Aberdeen, South Dakota, I used to pheasant hunt up there with them every year, told me of an instance where the federal game and fish lady was busy making a name for herself and two guys overpowered her, stripped her buck naked and handcuffed her to her truck then left. I had a hard time believing that but after being around them for so many years I don't doubt it took place.

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Originally Posted by Jim1611
Originally Posted by TF49
Originally Posted by Jim1611
The training school in Missouri for game wardens is the same used for the highway patrol. The wardens, which they hate being called go through much of the same training as the hp guys and then some. It's too political and very little common sense is involved. My ex wife went through the program in 1998, she is now a game warden, and I got a first hand glimpse of the idiotic ways and greed involved in the MDC. They also look at every one of us hunters as in violation of something at any given time.

Yep…. A neighbor’s daughter, about 13 came over to my place and shot her first elk. I watched the whole episode from my patio… she walked 50 yards or so into the field, dropped to her knee and bang…one shot drop….very good.

She and her father were gutting the elk and a game warden shows up…. He does the Q&A ….checks tags etc …asks how it happened, where was the elk when you shot …where we you when you shot….THEN, like he didn’t believe her….he starts inspecting…looks carefully at the tracks, paces off distances…sees where she shot from and where the elk dropped….all was in order, just like the kid said. Proper distance from road…all ok. Then he says something like “Well, I won’t write a citation.” Dad got instantly angry….”For What?” …warden gives him a mean look and departs. Father’s take was that the guy was looking to write the kid up….and trying desperately hard to gin up a violation.

I told him I wish he had so I could get a piece of his ass when she contested the citation.

Also, once had a game warden who had been hiding in the trees come roaring up and clearly alleged that I was hunting illegally……told her “Nope, this is my land and do you want to see my license.” Well, she asked what my name was and she recognized it…. then acted disappointed and left.

I guess being a game warden is a thankless job, but one does not need to be “….” about it.

I was telling my wife about our conversation on this thread a few minutes ago and the way so many of these "agents" are doing their job with so much zeal they seem to be anxious to find fault. I also was telling her about how they are doing themselves harm by alienating so many of us that could be a resource to them actually doing their jobs. They should be building trust with every one of us that hunt in a lawful and ethical way but most don't seem interested in that.

My cousins that live near Aberdeen, South Dakota, I used to pheasant hunt up there with them every year, told me of an instance where the federal game and fish lady was busy making a name for herself and two guys overpowered her, stripped her buck naked and handcuffed her to her truck then left. I had a hard time believing that but after being around them for so many years I don't doubt it took place.



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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by gitem_12
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Originally Posted by ShadeTree
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by gitem_12
they should be giving out tags for the damned things


They should be classifed as varmints with no closed season right along with hawks and owls.

Yep. Well maybe give owls a pass for now. They've been around forever and I never seen the damage inflicted that the skyrocketing population of unregulated hawks and eagles do.
Owls play hell on rabbits around here. Nothing as efficient as striking from above and in the dark when rabbits move the most.

ive heard of old time beagle clubs putting up "owl perches" then coating the boards with some form of acid that eats the Feet off of the owl. not a bad idea
Or foot hold traps on top of fence posts.

had a friend the had a 100 acre beagle enclosure for training his beagles, i use to live trap rabbits and take them over and let them go, alot of hawks would sit on his fence posts, he covered them with pie pans but that did no good so he stated setting traps on them. one day game warden drove by and seen that he stopped at the house and told him to sit them were he couldnt see them

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