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I am going to have a new rifle built, thinking of a 6.5 CM or a 7mm/08, what ye say. Rifle will be built on a Remington 700 SA platform, rifle will be used for hunting dear out west.
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Flip a coin,
heads one choice
tails the other.
Look at the coin.
If you're not happy, then you know which one.
ya!
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A Kill Artist. When I draw, I draw blood.
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Pretty much equivalencies. If you want to be able to use factory ammo, then the Creedmor. If strictly handloading, doesn’t really matter.
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I have the 7-08 and love it. Can't imagine life without it. Does everything I ever wanted. Absolutely count me as a fan of the cartridge.
That said - were I to do it over, 6.5 would be my choice likely. When I shoot this barrel out - 6.5 will be the replacement. Easier to get off the shelf ammo as prime concern, even tho I reload and IMO you need to reload to take advantage of the 7-08 and high BC bullets. Just not really available off the shelf.
I happen to be using 162 Amax's in mine. I can get VERY close BCs in the 6.5 with a 143. Faster, lighter etc.
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I have the 7-08 and love it. Can't imagine life without it. Does everything I ever wanted. Absolutely count me as a fan of the cartridge.
That said - were I to do it over, 6.5 would be my choice likely. When I shoot this barrel out - 6.5 will be the replacement. Easier to get off the shelf ammo as prime concern, even tho I reload and IMO you need to reload to take advantage of the 7-08 and high BC bullets. Just not really available off the shelf.
I happen to be using 162 Amax's in mine. I can get VERY close BCs in the 6.5 with a 143. Faster, lighter etc. Or exceed with the 147.
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I'm with this guy
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Depends on what you already have. I'm heavily invested in 308. There isn't enough difference between 308 and 7-08 to own both so 6.5CM was an easy choice for me. I can't see enough difference between 6.5CM and 7-08 to own both of those either.
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They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
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I do. Both good guns, both SA 700’s. 7-08 with a Hart, Creed with a Shilen, both accurate I find myself using the 7-08 more, can’t say why, just like it. Fav 7-08 load now is the 140 SGK, HPBT over Varget. Big Game is about as accurate and faster. The 120 NBT works well, too. Not quite as accurate but close and kills about as well. Haven’t given the Creed enough attention. DF
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When it comes time to pass this rifle down to a child or to sell it, the wide range of commonly available factory ammo in 6.5 CM might make it more desirable/useful to the next owner.
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I do. Both good guns, both SA 700’s. 7-08 with a Hart, Creed with a Shilen, both accurate I find myself using the 7-08 more, can’t say why, just like it. Fav 7-08 load now is the 140 SGK, HPBT over Varget. Big Game is about as accurate and faster. The 120 NBT works well, too. Not quite as accurate but close and kills about as well. Haven’t given the Creed enough attention. DF Load 140gr SGK SP’s in my sons over RL15 He’s killed a bunch of deer and a black bear with it and haven’t caught one yet. I shoot 120gr NBT’s in my 7-08AI.
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I'm with this guy You need 270’s, 280’s, 6.5-06’s to support the 7mm-08 and Creed. Probably 308 and 30-06 too
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I'm with this guy You need 270’s, 280’s, 6.5-06’s to support the 7mm-08 and Creed. Probably 308 and 30-06 too I hear you there.. 338 Feds, 358 Wins, 338-06, Whelens, etc.. They all need support.
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You guys making lots of sense, but ya preaching to the choir.
Ha!
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If factory ammo the 6.5.
I love my 7mm-08
Small Game, Deer, Turkey, Bear, Elk....It's what's for dinner.
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If factory ammo the 6.5.
I love my 7mm-08 Agree. DF
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I think I am leaning towards the 6.5CM, thanks for all of the input
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rifle will be used for hunting dear out west. Do you give her a running head start? The Creed will require less lead on a moving target. Go Creed. I’ll show myself out….
Anybody who seriously concerns themselves with the adequacy of a Big 7mm for anything we hunt here short of brown bear, is a dufus. They are mostly making shidt up. Crunch! Nite-nite!
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If only deer then either will do if out west and hunting elk might want to go with 7-08 and heavier bullets.
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I'd go 7mm08. I have 3 of them, one I've had since the 80's has a 20" Douglas bbl on it. The other two have 24" bbls (Lilja and a Krieger) and both shoot close to 2900 FPS with 140 gr Nosler partitions. That equals my 22" .270 velocities.
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