Interesting video where a couple of female cops unloaded on a homeowner inside her home. The question, does the homeowner have the right to shoot back
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Interesting video where a couple of female cops unloaded on a homeowner inside her home. The question, does the homeowner have the right to shoot back
Unbelievable! That was clearly attempted murder. What made them think they could lawfully perform two mag dumps each into a residence at an occupant?? Thank God, due to their poor marksmanship, she suffered no life threatening injuries.
I'm under the thought process that if I am being shot at....................I should at least attempt to shoot back.
Maybe not shoot first, but certainly shoot back.
That would be your first instinct, but what a schidt show that would become. How many cops are you willing to kill? Honest question. At the point you start shooting cops, you become the definite bad guy. These women cops were fu cking idiots. The best thing to do in that instance is find a place to shelter, call 911, and tell them that these cops are shooting at you for no reason!!!! Sounds stupid, I know, but the other option may be even more stupid..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
The homeowner that was shot by the two lunatic cops never has to worry about going to work and earning a living after she recovers from her injuries. Easy street from now on.
The homeowner that was shot by the two lunatic cops never has to worry about going to work and earning a living after she recovers from her injuries. Easy street from now on.
At Taxpayer expense.
This schit needs to stop
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Survive the immediate threat- - - - -run, hide, evade, etc. Take care of business later when the odds are more in your favor- - - - -like from half a mile away with a good bolt action.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
The homeowner that was shot by the two lunatic cops never has to worry about going to work and earning a living after she recovers from her injuries. Easy street from now on.
At Taxpayer expense.
And this is why we all need to pay attention to what our own local PDs are doing.
You may be within your rights to use deadly force if Cops are illegally trying to kill you, however you may be Dead Right!
Are you going to survive the next couple of cops that arrive on scene to backup their partners?
Survivors will write the story of "taking down a wacko that barricaded themselves in their home and wanted to kill cops".. (good shoot)
Or you get killed by wacko cops (oops sorry) and it's too late for you.
No good choice!
"Camping places fix themselves in your mind as if you had spent long periods of your life in them. You will remember a curve of your wagon track in the grass of the plain like the features of a friend." Isak Dinesen
Survive the immediate threat- - - - -run, hide, evade, etc. Take care of business later when the odds are more in your favor- - - - -like from half a mile away with a good bolt action.
The homeowner that was shot by the two lunatic cops never has to worry about going to work and earning a living after she recovers from her injuries. Easy street from now on.
At Taxpayer expense.
This schit needs to stop
I agree. A lot of it has to do with hiring women police officers. The agencies need to have more strict hiring guideline/policies.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Yet another example of why women should not be street cops
Affirmative Action hard at work.
L.W.
Yup, betting diversity hires.
Both woman forgot to release the slide on their pistols after the first reloads and are trying to shoot with the slides back. When the white woman’s slide failed to lock back after her second mag dump (probably operator error) she loaded a magazine but forgot to rack the slide. She was trying to shoot but obviously couldn’t. The Mexican woman was still blazing away.
Yet another example of why women should not be street cops
Affirmative Action hard at work.
L.W.
Yup, betting diversity hires.
Both woman forgot to release the slide on their pistols after the first reloads and are trying to shoot with the slides open. When the white woman’s slide failed to lock back after her second mag dump (probably operator error) she loaded a magazine but forgot to rack the slide.
Good thing, the homeowner thanks her.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Yet another example of why women should not be street cops
Affirmative Action hard at work.
L.W.
Yup, betting diversity hires.
Both woman forgot to release the slide on their pistols after the first reloads and are trying to shoot with the slides open. When the white woman’s slide failed to lock back after her second mag dump (probably operator error) she loaded a magazine but forgot to rack the slide.
Good thing, the homeowner thanks her.
She should! She’s going to be rich this time next year and rightfully so.
cops can, will, and do kill folks all the time. In most of those instances, they get clean away with it. If it were a split second thing, I am pretty sure I would shoot back. If there were time to figure out what was happening, then it would make more sense to bunker down and hope a saner copper shows up. Agreed though, that women just have no damn business in that business.
Handyman should be along shortly to defend these two “LEO”.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
You’re pretty well fugked. Return fire and you’ve started a war with a gang wearing badges. Unless there is obvious camera footage, it’s your word against theirs as to who fired first. I wouldn’t bet on them coming clean or saying “oops”.
If there is witnesses, footage, that they unlawfully shot first I’d say you’d be in the clear. At least for the first volley. Once you’ve had the opportunity to identify them , it may change.
Hell of a pickle to be in.
Good reason to have security cameras around your property.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
I'm under the thought process that if I am being shot at....................I should at least attempt to shoot back.
Maybe not shoot first, but certainly shoot back.
That would be your first instinct, but what a schidt show that would become. How many cops are you willing to kill? Honest question. At the point you start shooting cops, you become the definite bad guy. These women cops were fu cking idiots. The best thing to do in that instance is find a place to shelter, call 911, and tell them that these cops are shooting at you for no reason!!!! Sounds stupid, I know, but the other option may be even more stupid..
Look, I don't come here for rational sense okay.................lol
You’re pretty well fugked. Return fire and you’ve started a war with a gang wearing badges. Unless there is obvious camera footage, it’s your word against theirs as to who fired first. I wouldn’t bet on them coming clean or saying “oops”.
If there is witnesses, footage, that they unlawfully shot first I’d say you’d be in the clear. At least for the first volley. Once you’ve had the opportunity to identify them , it may change.
Hell of a pickle to be in.
Good reason to have security cameras around your property.
If you are getting shot at the war already started and it has always been the cops' words against the citizens which is a large part of why cops in so many locales get worked up when they see a camera running that may prevent the footage from being tampered with.
If you're in your house and somebody opens fire on you, what do you think? This is not a gray area, the gloves are off, shoot back. How the hell do you know who's shooting at your house, you're inside and they're outside. Even if they yell "Police, open up" so what, criminals do that too. WTF do you own the guns for if not to save your families life?
Oh, and F those cops. Horrible mess.
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
Wasn’t it a couple of years back Cops went to the wrong address, seems like San Antonio, Tx but I may be wrong. Kicked the door in middle of the night and home owner smoked one of the cops. Seems like home owner got sent up for murder. Heck I could be confused but remember something like that.
No win situation if Cops cut down on you even if they are wrong.
IMO.....those doing the vetting.....need to be FIRED!!
What makes you think they are being vetted
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
IMO.....those doing the vetting.....need to be FIRED!!
What makes you think they are being vetted
They are being 'vetted': woman, minority, IQ under 105 - you're HIRED!!
Indeed, but you left out, can't hit a 5 foot target from 4 feet away with a handgun.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
If they do, or don't, this question assumes you are armed, they will use your gun at the scene as evidence to support their actions.
No matter what, you are screwed.
But if the shooters are dead, and you survive the late arrivals, you are the only one telling the story. If the body cameras don't disappear or "malfunction" you might survive and walk away.
I'd suggest a name change and a new state for residency.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
You ABSOLUTELY have the right. However, they will NOT recognize that right.... just like so many others they don't recognize.
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I can even partially understand how it happened. It isn’t excusable at all but they were called to a suspected break in. The police show up walk around the house and see the broken window. When they nock on the door a woman with a gun in her hand comes to the door. So I get being on edge and thinking that they have a shooter.
The horrible use of firearms is over the top bad. Mag dump after mag dump without aiming and both of them tried shooting without releasing the slides after reloads. One of the cops forgot to rack the slide after it hadn’t stayed locked back after her last mag dump. She was still trying to shoot with no clue why it wouldn’t fire.
It wasn’t even an overly high stress situation. They perceived it as such but nobody was trying to kill them. The only ones shooting and trying to kill someone were the panicked police.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
The homeowner that was shot by the two lunatic cops never has to worry about going to work and earning a living after she recovers from her injuries. Easy street from now on.
At Taxpayer expense.
This schit needs to stop
Yep. But it won't, because no sane person wants to be a scapegoat for politicians or dumbasses like you, old b itch Steve.
So police officers will only be more incompetent and incapable of doing their job. I'm seeing it firsthand. Our new hires are complete f ucking retards. Thanks Saint Floyd
I'm under the thought process that if I am being shot at....................I should at least attempt to shoot back.
Maybe not shoot first, but certainly shoot back.
That would be your first instinct, but what a schidt show that would become. How many cops are you willing to kill? Honest question. At the point you start shooting cops, you become the definite bad guy. These women cops were fu cking idiots. The best thing to do in that instance is find a place to shelter, call 911, and tell them that these cops are shooting at you for no reason!!!! Sounds stupid, I know, but the other option may be even more stupid..
I'm willing to kill someone thats trying to kill me. What they do for a living so to speak does not matter. Kind of a FAFO thing.
Hope we never have to.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
You ABSOLUTELY have the right. However, they will NOT recognize that right.... just like so many others they don't recognize.
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I can even partially understand how it happened. It isn’t excusable at all but they were called to a suspected break in. The police show up walk around the house and see the broken window. When they nock on the door a woman with a gun in her hand comes to the door. So I get being on edge and thinking that they have a shooter.
The horrible use of firearms is over the top bad. Mag dump after mag dump without aiming and both of them tried shooting without releasing the slides after reloads. One of the cops forgot to rack the slide after it hadn’t stayed locked back after her last mag dump. She was still trying to shoot with no clue why it wouldn’t fire.
It wasn’t even an overly high stress situation. They perceived it as such but nobody was trying to kill them. The only ones shooting and trying to kill someone were the panicked police.
Somehow, we have went from someone having to present a threat, to the presence of a gun being enough to justify shooting.
Or, the suspected presence of a gun. How many shootings have we seen where they thought they saw a gun? Four officers gun down a guy who barely speaks English, was terrified because he was from a very corrupt country. He pulled his wallet, they killed him.
We always hear how the cops are held accountable?
Those four walked out of court with no repercussions.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
you become the definite bad guy. These women cops were fu cking idiots.
No, they werent idiots. They were the bad guy. Period.
As long as you go home at the end of the shift... but, what if you are already home and someone goes there and shoots (at) you?
How many lives do YOU have?
Originally Posted by Archerhunter
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
how many cops that get a knock on the door at nite aswers the door with gun in hand, why cant we
From what I saw in the videos, the homeowner didn’t answer the door.
She was inside away from the door and the one lady cop looked through the window and yelled gun and all hell broke loose.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Indeed, but shooting one of these well trained, physically fit female cops dead square center mass would have knocked them over backwards, down the steps and prolly busted their necks.
At the very least they would have been totally incapacitated.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
The homeowner that was shot by the two lunatic cops never has to worry about going to work and earning a living after she recovers from her injuries. Easy street from now on.
At Taxpayer expense.
This schit needs to stop
Yep. But it won't, because no sane person wants to be a scapegoat for politicians or dumbasses like you, old b itch Steve.
So police officers will only be more incompetent and incapable of doing their job. I'm seeing it firsthand. Our new hires are complete f ucking retards. Thanks Saint Floyd
50 years before [bleep] George Floyd and [bleep] Derek Chauvin, et al made the news there was [bleep] LE Darrell Cain and his fellow le gang members.
how many cops that get a knock on the door at nite aswers the door with gun in hand, why cant we
I've had dozens of people answer the front door with a gun. Never shot any of them. Weird.
One was close, but thats only because he pointed the gun at us. Turns out he was just drunk and stupid.
It's almost like you dumb f ucks can't figure out that da polease is just like every profession, made up of people. Some great, some bad, some average.
Andy Stumpf said it best when speaking of his former profession. He said some of the best people he's ever met were United States Navy Seals. He also added some of the absolute worst people he's ever known were United States Navy Seals. That's reality and if it exists at that level, it's damn sure the reality at every police department.
how many cops that get a knock on the door at nite aswers the door with gun in hand, why cant we
I've had dozens of people answer the front door with a gun. Never shot any of them. Weird.
One was close, but thats only because he pointed the gun at us. Turns out he was just drunk and stupid.
LOL, sure you did.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
how many cops that get a knock on the door at nite aswers the door with gun in hand, why cant we
I've had dozens of people answer the front door with a gun. Never shot any of them. Weird.
One was close, but thats only because he pointed the gun at us. Turns out he was just drunk and stupid.
It's almost like you dumb f ucks can't figure out that da polease is just like every profession, made up of people. Some great, some bad, some average.
Andy Stumpf said it best when speaking of his former profession. He said some of the best people he's ever met were United States Navy Seals. He also added some of the absolute worst people he's ever known were United States Navy Seals. That's reality and if it exists at that level, it's damn sure the reality at every police department.
So police need to have their special priveleges removed to reflect their human failings.
how many cops that get a knock on the door at nite aswers the door with gun in hand, why cant we
I've had dozens of people answer the front door with a gun. Never shot any of them. Weird.
One was close, but thats only because he pointed the gun at us. Turns out he was just drunk and stupid.
It's almost like you dumb f ucks can't figure out that da polease is just like every profession, made up of people. Some great, some bad, some average.
Andy Stumpf said it best when speaking of his former profession. He said some of the best people he's ever met were United States Navy Seals. He also added some of the absolute worst people he's ever known were United States Navy Seals. That's reality and if it exists at that level, it's damn sure the reality at every police department.
So police need to have their special priveleges removed to reflect their human failings.
Yes
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
how many cops that get a knock on the door at nite aswers the door with gun in hand, why cant we
I've had dozens of people answer the front door with a gun. Never shot any of them. Weird.
One was close, but thats only because he pointed the gun at us. Turns out he was just drunk and stupid.
It's almost like you dumb f ucks can't figure out that da polease is just like every profession, made up of people. Some great, some bad, some average.
Andy Stumpf said it best when speaking of his former profession. He said some of the best people he's ever met were United States Navy Seals. He also added some of the absolute worst people he's ever known were United States Navy Seals. That's reality and if it exists at that level, it's damn sure the reality at every police department.
So police need to have their special priveleges removed to reflect their human failings.
Where did I ever say that? I said there can be p.o.s. cops, and the profession is in free fall because nobody worth a f uck wants to be a cop post Saint Floyd.
And your dumbass got "so police need to have their special priveleges removed to reflect their human failings"
Are you f ucking retarded? If you're referring to qualified immunity, can you articulate what it is? Lol no.
Indeed, but shooting one of these well trained, physically fit female cops dead square center mass would have knocked them over backwards, down the steps and prolly busted their necks.
At the very least they would have been totally incapacitated.
Shotguns are awesome. As incoming fire has the right of way so does outgoing fire. Cop Fed some Rando methed up illegal if your shooting at me it's okay for me to shoot back. There also isn't any "Whoops my bad" either see the F around and find out chart. You win football games by dominating and finishing the 4th quarter you win gunfights by solving the problem. Not worried about the legal financial Monday morning quarterbacking you shot AT me you forfeit your ability to hurt me or anyone else. No I'm not a Navy seal heartbreaker lifetaker but I can build me a wall of bullets same as anyone else. Finish.
Bangflop! another skinning job due to .260 and proper shot placement.
The acorn factor has been mentioned already, but I was still wondering if there were any oak trees near that front door. That mag dump stuff was unbelievable and such an overreaction that I can't even imagine any kind of rational excuse that would justify it. Those cops freaked out in panic and lost all common sense.
The acorn factor has been mentioned already, but I was still wondering if there were any oak trees near that front door. That mag dump stuff was unbelievable and such an overreaction that I can't even imagine any kind of rational excuse that would justify it. Those cops freaked out in panic and lost all common sense.
I’m wondering if anyone has taken the time to check the neighbor’s house for dead bodies.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Lol yes, fire indiscriminately through your door billy badazz lol
He has a dog, right up your alley.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Lol yes, fire indiscriminately through your door billy badazz lol
He has a dog, right up your alley.
You are the one "into" dogs. I have three bird dogs, don't need anymore.
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Just don’t call your LEO buddies for assistance while at home, you will prolly be minus one or two.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
how many cops that get a knock on the door at nite aswers the door with gun in hand, why cant we
I've had dozens of people answer the front door with a gun. Never shot any of them. Weird.
One was close, but thats only because he pointed the gun at us. Turns out he was just drunk and stupid.
It's almost like you dumb f ucks can't figure out that da polease is just like every profession, made up of people. Some great, some bad, some average.
Andy Stumpf said it best when speaking of his former profession. He said some of the best people he's ever met were United States Navy Seals. He also added some of the absolute worst people he's ever known were United States Navy Seals. That's reality and if it exists at that level, it's damn sure the reality at every police department.
So police need to have their special priveleges removed to reflect their human failings.
Where did I ever say that? I said there can be p.o.s. cops, and the profession is in free fall because nobody worth a f uck wants to be a cop post Saint Floyd.
And your dumbass got "so police need to have their special priveleges removed to reflect their human failings"
Are you f ucking retarded? If you're referring to qualified immunity, can you articulate what it is? Lol no.
Qualified immunity is just one of many special priveleges le receive.
Cops were engaging in criminal activity long, long before George Floyd. Prior to video the officers choosing to engage in crime were generally free to make up outlandish stories.
Of course you wouldn't want special priveleges stripped away. The special priveleges always come up under the guise of police being the finest, better behaved than everyone else, possessing abilities far beyond those of everyone else, out there protecting everyone(no duty to protect per numerous scotus cases) and so on. When caught screwing up though, the cops need leniency and sympathy because they are just human like everyone else so let's go with that and strip qi and other various legal exemptions and treat cops like everyone else.
The acorn factor has been mentioned already, but I was still wondering if there were any oak trees near that front door. That mag dump stuff was unbelievable and such an overreaction that I can't even imagine any kind of rational excuse that would justify it. Those cops freaked out in panic and lost all common sense.
Somebody trained them to think that mag dumps are the appropriate reaction to seeing someone with a gun in their own home.
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