|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 14,181 Likes: 23
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 14,181 Likes: 23 |
GWB, if you don't mind me asking where is this range?
Thanks Deans Pearland Shooters Club https://www.pscshootingclub.com/ya, GWB
A Kill Artist. When I draw, I draw blood.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,211 Likes: 9
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,211 Likes: 9 |
My fav 7-08 is a SA M-700 with a Hart barrel, Rem std sporter contour, put together by Bobby Hart, wearing a Conquest with elevation turret, ballistic tape for the 140 gr. SGK HPBT load. Timney trigger. McM Hunter's Edge was glassed, fitted, bolt handle slot filled and cut to carefully fit bolt handle. I got it unpainted, sent it back for paint after doing all that work. Would be the last one to go. And, I have a very nice Creed with Shilen barrel in a McWoody with Conquest. DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 12,665 Likes: 8
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 12,665 Likes: 8 |
Why not a 7mm Creedmoor? Move the shoulder a scooch further out so there’s no crush fit chambering in a 6.5 and have at it.
“When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty”
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2021
Posts: 301
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2021
Posts: 301 |
6.5 Creed!
If you shoot at a public range all the 6.5 brass you could ever use is free along with .308 and.223.
Hip
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,211 Likes: 9
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,211 Likes: 9 |
6.5 Creed!
If you shoot at a public range all the 6.5 brass you could ever use is free along with .308 and.223.
Hip Good point. And the Creed is king for a non reloader. As a reloader I prefer the 7-08. If I wasn’t, the Creed would win out. Both work well. DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,361
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,361 |
7-08 would be my first choice if hand loading. If you’re interested in shooting the heavier bullets, you’d do well to do homework on mag length options to accommodate. 6.5 Creed is the easy button. Really no wrong choice though.
Don't speculate when you don't know, and don't second guess when you do.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,211 Likes: 9
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,211 Likes: 9 |
6.5 Creed!
If you shoot at a public range all the 6.5 brass you could ever use is free along with .308 and.223.
Hip You could make a lot of 7-08 brass out of that free .308 brass. Not agreeing, but heard one guy say the 7-08 was the .308 with the “suck” squeezed out. I like my .308, too. It’s a Kimber Classic with 5C Broughton barrel. Just don’t use it as much. OEM barrel was a bust, shoots great with replacement. DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,971 Likes: 2
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,971 Likes: 2 |
I think I am leaning towards the 6.5CM, thanks for all of the input Don't lean to much you might fall over LOL. I love the 7MM-08 have two of them.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 24,657 Likes: 5
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 24,657 Likes: 5 |
6.5 CM is a round that should have never been invented. The 6.5x55 was introduced first and some gun freak decided he wanted to use the same bullet and start playing with higher pressures. Only then was the CM introduced. If you want a 7mm, go with a 7x57. If you don't handload, get a 280 REM. Why use a 7-08? Here again : 308 necked down to a 7mm....and why?!
WWP53D
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,327 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 8,327 Likes: 1 |
7 mm-08 and the 6.5 Creedmoor are both excellent cartridges , my vote would be for a 7mm-08 mainly because i built a custom Remington 700 action/ rifle in 7mm-08 5 - 10 years before anyone ever manufactured any rifles or ammo for this fine cartridge . the main reason i chambered a rifle to 7 mm-08 is i had so much once fired brass in 308 WIN. and in those days new 308 Win. brass was cheap to buy also .another shooter i knew Carl Gustason chambered his rifle in 25 caliber - 08 and called it 25 X his rifle was very accurate too but the chambering never did become a standard rifle cartridge as did a 7mm-08.
LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 502 Likes: 2
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 502 Likes: 2 |
Has anyone run the data on how these two compare with heavy for caliber bullets in shorter barrel lengths? I’ve been meaning to sit down and put it into a program, but haven’t gotten to it yet.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,169 Likes: 10
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,169 Likes: 10 |
I had a 6.5 Creed in a Savage Mod. 16 Weather Warrior. The rifle shot fine but was balky feeding which I attribute to the sharp shoulder angle. For that reason and the fact that the 7/08 would do what I need and is a proven round I would choose the 7/08.
Most of the cartridges based on the .308W are pretty good on accuracy. If you want a 6.5 maybe try the .260 Remington.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,550 Likes: 7
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,550 Likes: 7 |
I had a 6.5 Creed in a Savage Mod. 16 Weather Warrior. The rifle shot fine but was balky feeding which I attribute to the sharp shoulder angle. For that reason and the fact that the 7/08 would do what I need and is a proven round I would choose the 7/08.
Most of the cartridges based on the .308W are pretty good on accuracy. If you want a 6.5 maybe try the .260 Remington. I doubt it. I’ve had several rifles chambered in 6.5 CM, and they’ve all fed smoothly and reliably, despite the shoulder.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,200 Likes: 23
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,200 Likes: 23 |
I had a 6.5 Creed in a Savage Mod. 16 Weather Warrior. The rifle shot fine but was balky feeding which I attribute to the sharp shoulder angle. For that reason and the fact that the 7/08 would do what I need and is a proven round I would choose the 7/08.
Most of the cartridges based on the .308W are pretty good on accuracy. If you want a 6.5 maybe try the .260 Remington. I doubt it. I’ve had several rifles chambered in 6.5 CM, and they’ve all fed smoothly and reliably, despite the shoulder. I would say the feeding issues was from the gun alone. Just like the RAR's feed like schidt. Not because of what they are chambered for, but because they just feed like crap. I've seen that with some of my friends Savages with cheap mags, Tc Ventures, and other dollar store rifles. Its the nature of the cheap rifle beast. I've had Sako's, Tikka's (T3x and CTR's), and AR10's chambered for the 6.5 Creedmoor, and they fed flawlessly.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 322
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 322 |
I have two different Americans. The 350L feeds from a steel dura mag and the 5.56 has the pmag. Both feed fine. Better to be lucky than good I suppose.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,169 Likes: 10
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,169 Likes: 10 |
I had a 6.5 Creed in a Savage Mod. 16 Weather Warrior. The rifle shot fine but was balky feeding which I attribute to the sharp shoulder angle. For that reason and the fact that the 7/08 would do what I need and is a proven round I would choose the 7/08.
Most of the cartridges based on the .308W are pretty good on accuracy. If you want a 6.5 maybe try the .260 Remington. I doubt it. I’ve had several rifles chambered in 6.5 CM, and they’ve all fed smoothly and reliably, despite the shoulder. I would say the feeding issues was from the gun alone. Just like the RAR's feed like schidt. Not because of what they are chambered for, but because they just feed like crap. I've seen that with some of my friends Savages with cheap mags, Tc Ventures, and other dollar store rifles. Its the nature of the cheap rifle beast. I've had Sako's, Tikka's (T3x and CTR's), and AR10's chambered for the 6.5 Creedmoor, and they fed flawlessly. The Savage 16 Weather Warrior isn't exactly a cheap poorly made rifle. I have owned 2 different .308Ws and a .270 that fed and chambered just fine. It's not an expensive rifle compared to some but they are well made and accurate. It's understood my case was a sample of one. With disclosure I sold it to a lady deer hunter and it burned up in a house fire.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,751
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,751 |
For me it would come down to what projectile I wanted to build around. 147 vs 180?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,129 Likes: 7
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,129 Likes: 7 |
Haaaaahahahahahaaaaa
"The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants".
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 364
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 364 |
I love my 7mm08, whether using 120gr NBTs, 140gr of various flavours or even Federal Blue box 150gr. That said, I'm seriously considering adding a 6.5 CM as well as the contrarian in me wants it because of all the hate it gets... Flip a coin and get either and doubt you will be disappointed. Or, as wiser men than me have already suggested, get both!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,244
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,244 |
Both great cartridges; if forced by horrible circumstances to choose just one, it'd be a 7-08. Sorta in the same boat. With a safe full of rifles the 7-08 gets chosen more than the others for hogs and WT’s. DF My 7-08 Montana has been the cause of many very nice rifles going down the road because they just don't get used. It's too hard not to grab the Kimber and I have no interest in owning a bunch of rifles that aren't used. Same here. Out of 3 safes full of rifles, the 7-08 Montana gets the nod for everything. It'll be hunting Canada moose this year in Alberta.
My heart's in the mountains, my heart is not here. My heart's in the mountains, chasing the deer.
|
|
|
|
682 members (10gaugemag, 007FJ, 01Foreman400, 117LBS, 10Glocks, 69 invisible),
2,917
guests, and
1,294
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,642
Posts18,512,297
Members74,010
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|