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I know the publishers behind this website are filthy rich. I've heard all the "behind the scene" stories at the SHOT shows about the wild Wolfe parties where they guzzle Andre Pink Champaign and stuff themselves with delacies such as Vienna Sausages on tooth picks.
Plus, they send everyone who is willing to go to Africa. Personally, I'd like to see them send two deserving African Americans to Africa to hunt Cape Buffalo; Al Sharpton and the Rev. Jesse Jackson. In fact, I'd contribute a couple of .22 rifles for these genetlemen to use on their hunt.
BUT, that's not the purpose of this missive. I think Wolfe should take on the most daunting task in the firearms world: to hold a competition, with a cash prize, for the best looking sporting rifle made from an Arisaka or a Moison-Nagant.
At least 50% of the original parts should be required to be used. And, no Mum rifles...these are mostly captured rifles from WW II and don't deserve to be defaced.
I personally don't think it's possible to make a good looking sporting rifle from either of these, but I'd love to see someone else's opus.
How about it, Wolfe?
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Now this is interesting. I wonder if it could be done?
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I must have missed the part where Rick Bin bought Wolfe Publications.  This website and Wolfe are separate, and I don't know of any Wolfe staff (as opposed to some who write for them) who hang out on the campfire. The Arisaka and the Moison-Nagant are so ... yesterday. How about a challenge for a stylin' rifle made on an action with a barrel nut? Winner must shoot better and be more attractive than a Savage Classic. jim ps try wolfepub (at) riflemag (dot) com to email your challenge
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I took one of those Arisakas and turned it into a .270 fro asheep hunt om Pikes Peak.A Fter i got a nice ram, I sent it to my niece in PA for a deer rifle. I think it is in Las Vegas with her now
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Arisakas have a very strong action (not the last ditch ones) and PO Ackley did most of his load development using one.
Getting one to shoot a sheep is not nearly as challenging as getting one to look good.
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The Mosin Nagants are pretty tough also. A fellow did a blow-up test on one a couple of years ago. IIRC, a 200 grain lead alloy bullet was used as a stopper over a case full of Bullseye. No catastrophic failure only a swelled receiver but, bolt, receiver, and barrel remained whole.
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Gene:
Years ago I saw a photo of a custom Arisaka, supposedly done for a rich client who just wanted to see if it was possible to make one look good.
Didn't keep the photo, and it's been so long, I can't remember where I saw it. The bolt handle was reworked, and the stock was deluxe. Rebarrelled, of course.
I'll just have to ask you to take my word for it that it looked good. (To me.)
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http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=08e1534e62d37285bba1c898965ae8e6;act=ST;f=30;t=18615
This one is about the best looking one I'v seen. Not exactly a good looking rifle, but certainly not an eyesore.
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http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=08e1534e62d37285bba1c898965ae8e6;act=ST;f=30;t=18615
This one is about the best looking one I'v seen. Not exactly a good looking rifle, but certainly not an eyesore. That's kinda cool. . . . . I LIKE mosins, they are REALLY TOUGH. Pretty? Not so much, but TOUGH. BMT
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I have a MN sniper and it's fun. It really has no redeeming values...
Ugly stock, ghastly machining marks on receiver, not especially accurate (by today�s standards), horrible trigger. Stock�s too short, scope has insufficient eye relief, can�t get a good cheek weld etc. But I enjoy the nostalgia of shooting that rifle regardless.
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The one I re did, about the only thing left original was the action.New barrel, I made the custom stock ,new trigger.Actualy it didn't look too bad IMO
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Does Sherpa Kurt's deer soaked bayonet make a Mosin better looking?
Or merely "Sherpular"?
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I did see an arisaka redone in .300 savage that was none too shabby. Heck it was almost elegant looking. I believe it was a type 77.
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I have a MN sniper and it's fun. It really has no redeeming values...
Ugly stock, ghastly machining marks on receiver, not especially accurate (by today�s standards), horrible trigger. Stock�s too short, scope has insufficient eye relief, can�t get a good cheek weld etc. But I enjoy the nostalgia of shooting that rifle regardless. Friend of mine once picked up a Finnish-made MN in great condition and was that an eye-opener. Beautifully machined and the action was silky-smooth. The stock, though short, sure enough (has to be when you're wearing enough wool to survive a fire fight in minus 20 degrees) was quite well made. Never got a chance to shoot it though. He traded things so darn fast. I often thought it had the makings of an interesting sporter. - Tom
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I know the publishers behind this website are filthy rich. I've heard all the "behind the scene" stories at the SHOT shows about the wild Wolfe parties where they guzzle Andre Pink Champaign and stuff themselves with delacies such as Vienna Sausages on tooth picks.
Plus, they send everyone who is willing to go to Africa. Personally, I'd like to see them send two deserving African Americans to Africa to hunt Cape Buffalo; Al Sharpton and the Rev. Jesse Jackson. In fact, I'd contribute a couple of .22 rifles for these genetlemen to use on their hunt.
BUT, that's not the purpose of this missive. I think Wolfe should take on the most daunting task in the firearms world: to hold a competition, with a cash prize, for the best looking sporting rifle made from an Arisaka or a Moison-Nagant.
At least 50% of the original parts should be required to be used. And, no Mum rifles...these are mostly captured rifles from WW II and don't deserve to be defaced.
I personally don't think it's possible to make a good looking sporting rifle from either of these, but I'd love to see someone else's opus.
How about it, Wolfe? Wow! Wouldn't this be akin to a contest for the most beautiful female Sumo wrestler?
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Before I had a Rigby in my outhouse I had an Arisaka and one day during a spring hunt one of my guides and I had already filled out our clients and had hiked over to another guides camp to haul supplies to him. We found out his client had just wounded a big bear that morning and they asked for help tracking it. Since neither of us had carried a rifle I hiked three miles back to camp and picked up the Arisaka and flew back. The guys were already tracking the bear in pretty thick stuff so I dropped the rifle out of the plane ( I was sort of windy so I was 500-600 feet high) The guide without his rifle said that at that moment that Arisaka was the prettiest rifle he had ever seen.
I guess the moral is that maybe throwing Arisaka's and Mosin's out of aircraft might be the best way to beautify them ?
Now if you want a see really pretty rifle you should see the SMLE that is now in our outhouse. I don't dare write about it.
Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master Guide, Alaska Hunter Ed Instructor FAA Master pilot www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.comAnyone who claims the 30-06 is not effective has either not used one, or else is unwittingly commenting on their marksmanship.
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Though Wolfe has nothing to do with this website (other than a few of their writers posting), I will decline the challenge. The reason: My first centerfire was a Mosin-Nagant that I personally "sporterized" at the age of 13. It was uglier when I got done than when I started.
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A very fine answer my friend.....
I have had the same problem(S) in my past!
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It was uglier when I got done than when I started. Is that actually possible?
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