no matter what. Simple for me. Any on the left coast, any east of the Mississippi. New Mexico, Colorado, Minnesota, Hawaii.
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"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.”
Anything on the west coast, nothing north of North Carolina on the east coast. Ill-annoy, Wisconsin, and Minnesota are out, too. New Mexico and Colorado are out, too. I don't think I'd like swampground either, so I'd leave out Louisiana, too.
I could probably manage anywhere else alright, but the wife ain't gonna leave the grandkids for any reason, so Kentucky it is.
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
Don’t know if there’s any I wouldn’t live in under any circumstances but a lot I’d avoid. California is a beautiful state with some idiots in charge. Same for most of the eastern seaboard. Alaska, Oregon and some others are much the same.
No place that has chiggers, or venom snakes that don't rattle! No place where you need to lease a hunting area, because there is no public land to accommodate hunters.
georgia has always kinda creeped me out, it would be a definite NO i hope i live out the rest of my years here in Texas, the other 49 states can go to hell
Simple for me. ... any east of the Mississippi ...
Why?
Arizona, where you live, ended up in Biden’s camp in 2020. Whether or not that’s, in part, due to liberals there running the elections there, Arizona is WAY more liberal than many states east of the Mississippi.
For example, where I live, West Virginia went 69% for Trump—a higher percentage than every other state, except for Wyoming.
“where sin increased, grace overflowed all the more”
Romans 5:20
I’ll stay and fight the good fight
BMT
"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
I lived in the deep south for several years, but I missed the change of seasons. I like snow, hardwoods, mountains. Could care less if I ever see a beach again.
have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
No where that boarders an ocean. No where that boarders Mexico. No where that shuts down for a week over 2" of snow. Fuck Iowa. Fuck Illinois.
Whats that leave?
If it wasn't for the beer, why would anyone ever go to Wisconsin ??
kwg
For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
There are lots of Scenic States I would live , except for their screwed up politics . I am happy where I am at .
Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
If youve lived in the South around tons of groids, I could make anything work almost.
Except for extreme Northeastern states
You’ll never earn your chevrons until you have >30% negro in your city-county-state. Alla this “never been east of Pocatello”…..eat a dick tiddy baby
This guy gets it.
Sheesh buncha delicate flowers round here.
I COULD live about anywhere and make it work. If I have a CHOICE which is how I took the OP's question - then there's a list.
Difference between can and want to - live. When asked, I'll give my choice but don't confuse my choice with my inability to handle. I've lived in several of the places I listed as places I'd never live in. That's how I know I'd never live in them (again) - made the choice not to.
NJ, IL, CA and MA are ones I wouldn't live in. Think a lot of places like Georgia are pretty conservative but are ruled by [bleep] libtard cities. If the flow douche nozzles keeps coming to Georgia I may have to bail.
A bowhunter at heart but a gun guy at soul. I'll take craftsmanship, wood and blue steel over plastic and composite any day.
I've lived and worked in many places, here and abroad. I can make most anything work but can't think of any reason to live in New Jersy. Nothing, not one single reason.
Bore size is no substitute for shot placement and Power is no substitute for bullet performance. 458WIN
No where that boarders an ocean. No where that boarders Mexico. No where that shuts down for a week over 2" of snow. Fuck Iowa. Fuck Illinois.
Whats that leave?
If it wasn't for the beer, why would anyone ever go to Wisconsin ??
kwg
People from MN come here to see Superbowl trophies. You act like beer isn't a good enough reason. Also, might want to check out where most of the custom barrel makers are located too.
If it wasn't for the beer, why would anyone ever go to Wisconsin ??
I am not much on WI but they do have a certain way of living.
Is this the place just across the river from Iowa in LaCrosse ?? Yes, I have been in that store. You can buy a boat, motor, canoe, fishing gear and booze all in one place. The only reason to go to Wisconsin all in one store just across the river.
kwg
Ooopss. I forgot guns. Lot's of guns.
kwg
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For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
california or new york, I would probably leave the country if forced to live there. outside of that I would only live in nevada, AZ, NW, UT colorado, idaho or montana.
Nothing on the west coast. No desert living for me. Texas and Louisiana are too dang hot, with not enough change of season. No New England state, with the exception of Maine and New Hampshire. With no coastline nearby, I’m not a fan of the nation’s interior. That doesn’t lease much. I guess I’m staying right here. I could live about anywhere near the Appalachian Mountains, within 5 hours of the coast. Oh yeah, wouldn’t even consider Alaska or Hawaii.
If it wasn't for the beer, why would anyone ever go to Wisconsin ??
I am not much on WI but they do have a certain way of living.
Is this the place just across the river from Iowa in LaCrosse ?? Yes, I have been in that store. You can buy a boat, motor, canoe, fishing gear and booze all in one place. The only reason to go to Wisconsin all in one store just across the river.
Anywhere that the primary technique for big game hunting involves a stand or blind. I grew up hunting afoot and while I have and still do on rare occasions use a blind or stand, I'd not be excited for that to become my primary tactic.
I can walk on water.......................but I do stagger a bit on alcohol.
If youve lived in the South around tons of groids, I could make anything work almost.
Except for extreme Northeastern states
You’ll never earn your chevrons until you have >30% negro in your city-county-state. Alla this “never been east of Pocatello”…..eat a dick tiddy baby
This guy gets it.
Sheesh buncha delicate flowers round here.
I COULD live about anywhere and make it work. If I have a CHOICE which is how I took the OP's question - then there's a list.
Difference between can and want to - live. When asked, I'll give my choice but don't confuse my choice with my inability to handle. I've lived in several of the places I listed as places I'd never live in. That's how I know I'd never live in them (again) - made the choice not to.
Don't be all humblebrag. 😜
"Maybe we're all happy."
"Go to the sporting goods store. From the files, obtain form 4473. These will contain descriptions of weapons and lists of private ownership."
If it wasn't for the beer, why would anyone ever go to Wisconsin ??
I am not much on WI but they do have a certain way of living.
Is this the place just across the river from Iowa in LaCrosse ?? Yes, I have been in that store. You can buy a boat, motor, canoe, fishing gear and booze all in one place. The only reason to go to Wisconsin all in one store just across the river.
As of today NJ, MA, CT, MD, DE, RI, NY, IL, CA, OR, WA, NM, NH, VT, WI, MN, HI, MI, ME, PA, AZ, NV.
I don’t disagree but you need to add Colorado.
Thanks, forgot that one. I lived one summer in Canon City and four in Gunnison last was 2017 wasn't too bad then not anymore. So have no desire to live there again.
May be a repeat of previous post but!! Can’t say for sure where I wouldn’t live but can for sure say where I prefer to live. Alaska and Wyoming. Lived there the majority of my adult life, and enjoyed those 58 years immensely. I can state without reservations “Alaska is no place for old men”!!!’
No blue state no matter how beautiful. I am good with the rest of the country thinking of Alabama as a backwards, inbred infested backwater. Keep spreading that word.
Always remember that you are unique, just like everyone else.
I have seen most states. I could live in nearly all of them with very few exceptions. If I had to pick one though, it would be Hawaii.
I like the cold.
"...aspire to live quietly, and to mind your own affairs, and to work with your hands, as we instructed you, so that you may walk properly before outsiders and be dependent on no one." - Paul to the church in Thessalonica.
Having traveled the lower 48 for a living for several years, east of the Rockies extensively, I’ve found nice places and folks everywhere but RI and DE. They are just small and populated.
I don’t say ever or never, big words that tend to bite.
If money was not an issue? I’d be in MT, WY, AL, most likely. But damn prejudiced about where.
Likewise, there are at least 6 other states I’d carefully choose a spot in.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
Nowhere east of the mighty Mississip, nowhere north of Missouri except maybe Wyoming, Montana, Idaho or maybe South Dakota. Not the left coast. Thinking there MIGHT be places in Nebraska or Kansas.
Kansas is intriguing, but really just because of my experiences in Wichita. Driving around town looking for a place to have lunch was actually pretty stress-free---almost pleasant. It took me a few days to realize that the reason was that I wasn't behind a f^$*#@* truck everywhere I went, like it is down here.
If my wife thought differently I'd probably pack up and head for Nevada where no one else wants to go. Maybe even Utah.
I'll probably just live out my life right here in Texas unless something either really great or something really weird happens.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
No place that has chiggers, or venom snakes that don't rattle! No place where you need to lease a hunting area, because there is no public land to accommodate hunters.
I've shot a lot of rattlesnakes that never rattled. FWIW
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
Most people use the word “never” without fully comprehending what it means.
I do - I will NEVER live in those places because the events that would force me to - means those are no longer states. Geography wise - they might be there but not as political states.
Gun laws and urban sprawl as bad or nearly as bad as any of the other far left states but with absolutely nothing going for it.
Hawaii at least has great weather and beautiful beaches. CA might be the second worst but it has some scenic beauty and interesting climates. NY has the cachet of being world known and the Catskill and Adirondack Mountains. I can’t think of a thing to like or want to go see in NJ.
No where that boarders an ocean. No where that boarders Mexico. No where that shuts down for a week over 2" of snow. Fuck Iowa. Fuck Illinois.
Whats that leave?
If it wasn't for the beer, why would anyone ever go to Wisconsin ??
kwg
Road America
hillstadt.... are you excluding Alaska, which has more coastline than the rest of the US put together? We are also the farthest eastern, western, and northern state, which is pretty cool. Largest of course - pick your starting point and direction, there are at least two different ways to travel 1500 miles in a straight line and only be half-way across the state.
Problem is, for awhile there it was filling up- must have 750,000 people.
Now , I think, we are losing population. Just not fast enough.
Lots of great places to live. New England, the south, PNW…..I’d probably skip much of the mid west. Western Dakotas and Nebraska are cool though. I could do that.
Shame CA is so politically perverted. It would hands down be my #1 choice.
As it is, I’ll happily make SC work. I’d like to be in a place to split time in the future.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
I could live anywhere with decent hunting, good fishing, and good economic opportunities.
What's amazing to me is how many people live in areas, wish for something better, but don't do what they have available. Doers tend to do stuff no matter where they are at. And people who make excuses and don't really get out much do the exact same thing no matter where they are.
I would like to add besides 2nd Amendment friendly I want rivers and lakes close to fish and trees. If there is no water and trees don't grow there I find it depressing.
I could live anywhere with decent hunting, good fishing, and good economic opportunities.
What's amazing to me is how many people live in areas, wish for something better, but don't do what they have available. Doers tend to do stuff no matter where they are at. And people who make excuses and don't really get out much do the exact same thing no matter where they are.
This is a good point. I had a mentor who told me there is no bad place to live in America, but there are a lot of bad jobs. A bit of hyperbole, but the point is solid.
Reached the milestone in life now, where I don't have to live somewhere I don't want to
Lots of great places to live. New England, the south, PNW…..I’d probably skip much of the mid west. Western Dakotas and Nebraska are cool though. I could do that.
Shame CA is so politically perverted. It would hands down be my #1 choice.
As it is, I’ll happily make SC work. I’d like to be in a place to split time in the future.
Cali is probably the most awesome state by far. (Sorry Texas, it's not even close) Except for the people, even then it's like many states. A small area controls the whole state.
What's not to like in Cali (except people). Big mountains, desert, ocean, whatever weather that trips your trigger. Damn near anything, geography wise, the entire country offers. But then, there are the people. (The bad ones, not some of our members)
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
Lots of great places to live. New England, the south, PNW…..I’d probably skip much of the mid west. Western Dakotas and Nebraska are cool though. I could do that.
Shame CA is so politically perverted. It would hands down be my #1 choice.
As it is, I’ll happily make SC work. I’d like to be in a place to split time in the future.
Cali is probably the most awesome state by far. (Sorry Texas, it's not even close) Except for the people, even then it's like many states. A small area controls the whole state.
What's not to like in Cali (except people). Big mountains, desert, ocean, whatever weather that trips your trigger. Damn near anything, geography wise, the entire country offers. But then, there are the people. (The bad ones, not some of our members)
My first 35 years were spent in NorCal. Wonderful time. We left due to a job transfer in 1996.
Number one on anyone's list should be New Jersey, Most states have a least one redeeming quality. Not Jersey. That being said . I am convinced life is better for me where I am , no stress , less people and plenty of hunting and fishing, though I do wish there were more panfish to eat............
Only states I would consider are Alaska, Tennessee, Kentucky, Montana, and Idaho. Of all the states I previously lived in, Colorado and Pennsylvania and Washington I absolutely detest due to the taxes and politics.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
Washington. I was born here. Left at 18, came back at 54 and I do not recognize this place. Luckily I'm only 20 or so miles from the Free America (Idaho) border. Seriously wishing that I had bought over there instead of here.
Washington. I was born here. Left at 18, came back at 54 and I do not recognize this place. Luckily I'm only 20 or so miles from the Free America (Idaho) border. Seriously wishing that I had bought over there instead of here.
Only states I would consider are Alaska, Tennessee, Kentucky, Montana, and Idaho. Of all the states I previously lived in, Colorado and Pennsylvania and Washington I absolutely detest due to the taxes and politics.
That explains a lot. Anyway, I hope you find what you want and vote accordingly in East TN. That’s some fine land out there.
The west coast WAS awesome but it was destroyed by the liberals and doesn’t resemble anything like the place where I grew up. California was as close to the Garden of Eden as anyplace on earth with a year round growing season, high snow covered mountains, raging rivers, clean clear lakes and a trillion miles of ocean front. Nowadays it more resembles Somalia than anything in North America.
I have to be close to saltwater and I have to be away from tons of people. Good hunting, good fishing without oppressive heat…and not many people are what I’d consider perfect (for me).
Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, the Dakotas would be great but the saltwater fishing sucks…. otherwise I’d consider any of those states. I knew where I wanted to live when I was in elementary school but my attachment to my big family kept me grounded. It wasn’t until 20+ years ago when this state really took a nose dive and it’s only picked up steam as it races towards the bottom. I’ve been planning my escape for a couple decades but it’s FINALLY begun to take shape.
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
After last summer’s heat, I’m rethinking my move back here to Sweet Home. Now overrun with Groids and the worst drivers outside of Italy. Eastern Washington and the Idaho panhandle looking pretty good now.
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If youve lived in the South around tons of groids, I could make anything work almost.
Except for extreme Northeastern states
You’ll never earn your chevrons until you have >30% negro in your city-county-state. Alla this “never been east of Pocatello”…..eat a dick tiddy baby
You have such a way with words.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
I wish Oregon people would just stay in Oregon and the same said for CA & WA State people. Those people, their culture, their politics belong to them and the rest of us middle finger salute you. "You're welcome to visit us but please don't stay."
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Number one on anyone's list should be New Jersey, Most states have a least one redeeming quality. Not Jersey. That being said . I am convinced life is better for me where I am , no stress , less people and plenty of hunting and fishing, though I do wish there were more panfish to eat............
Well, they do have the Pine Barrens there. It's kind of a redeeming quality. And as I recall, some decent salt water fishing.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
I wish Oregon people would just stay in Oregon and the same said for CA & WA State people. Those people, their culture, their politics belong to them and the rest of us middle finger salute you. "You're welcome to visit us but please don't stay."
I show up there Ima shoot alla your elk.
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
Having lived on both coasts,NW PA, in the SW, and in AK for a year I can say it sure would have been more interesting to read "Why" some of you folks wouldn't live in certain places.
I "would never" choose to live down south due to the humidity. I like to feel dry when I get out of the shower, not start instantly sweating. Not needing A/C when it's only 80-85F ( or even 90F) is a blessing I really enjoy. I might be able to handle the Piedmont areas of some of the coastal states like NC and VA. Relatives there tell me it's not too hot when it is humid and the mountains (such as they are at only around 6000' feet) help.
Portions of TX would probably be OK humidity wise, but there's the dearth of public lands there so TX by choice would likely be out of the question.
The upper Midwest, starting around Kansas is boring, flat, and mostly too crowded for me. The weather sucks worse than it does here, the humidity gets too high at times, there's friggen tornadoes, too much boring flat land farming. Probably wouldn't choose to live there.
ND, SD, CO, NM, while they have decent amount of public land and aren't "flat" like the Midwest probably not suitable due to the lack of access to an ocean without an even longer drive than here. CO and NM are rapidly becoming as f'd up politically as where we are now, and dang near as expensive to buy property in many of the nicer places from what I've heard. Probably wouldn't choose any of those 4.
MT and WY would be good candidates if I weren't married. I can survive and enjoy basically any of the weather most of those two would throw at me, most of the time. The windier areas of WY could suck badly though. I enjoy the wind to a point, just as I enjoy rain to a point, but not every friggen day.
Relatives in AZ, those in the mountains and those in the desert are both not happy with the way that State is becoming crowded and changing politically. I lived there, in both parts, for the better part of 7 years and love AZ as it fits most of my desires. Lots of public land, fishing and hunting for a large variety of game and types of fish , excellent weather even at 7000', not too terribly far from an ocean (Mexico or SoCal), decent Mexican food, still not too terribly crowded but becoming more so as I type, and it's fairly near to a majority of my close relatives.
I could probably do AK again, the wife not so much. Cross that one off as long as I'm still married.
OR, WA, NorCal interiors are nice weather wise, public land availability, lack of crowds, etc, but we all know they are run by the big cities as far as laws go. I am surviving the best I can here, but get more anxious every day. Knowing our local Sheriff has our back for the most part helps, he's not committing resources to enforcing anti 2A laws, they exist but he's not pushing for arrests.
Coastal OR, WA, and NorCal have way too much rain for me. Some places in NorCal are over 60" rain since 1 Oct, coastal OR and WA worse I bet. I don't like wearing rain gear that much. Did it for a living a few times and it's not my preference just to get outdoors.
SoCal, and most of Central CA is out, way too many friggen people, too much traffic, smog, crime etc.
ID, outside of certain metro areas I could probably do ID. Again, the wife probably not.
HI, except for the politics it's kind of a paradise for a guy like me that prefers to live in shorts and sandals (at most) and loves the ocean and fresh seafood and tropical fruits (and bikini clad wimmins). The Big Island would suit me fine for the most part, maybe the public land thing would suck, I'd just go spear some fish to get over it I think, or find a place to hunt pigs or turkeys. Once again, there's that politics thing though.
I think I left out places like ME, NH, VT etc. Even upstate NY and parts of western MA. I could enjoy parts of living there, great public lands, fishing and stuff, but on a whole it's way too crowded and there's that humidity thing for good portions of the year. And....................politics.
For those of you East of, oh let's say the Front Range ..............................there are no real mountains back there, especially in States like OH or PA. Granted there are some steep places but a lot of us Out West live at elevations considered the lowlands in our area that are well above the highest points in your States and we generally have access close by to real mountains much higher than where we live. Even our deserts have taller mountains than anywhere east of the Mississippi River. And for some of us, not having mountains is a strange, strange concept.
Beware of where you choose to call home, unless you're an old fart like me and even then nothing is certain, the place you choose is likely to change dramatically in a few years.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
Having lived on both coasts,NW PA, in the SW, and in AK for a year I can say it sure would have been more interesting to read "Why" some of you folks wouldn't live in certain places.
I "would never" choose to live down south due to the humidity. I like to feel dry when I get out of the shower, not start instantly sweating. Not needing A/C when it's only 80-85F ( or even 90F) is a blessing I really enjoy. I might be able to handle the Piedmont areas of some of the coastal states like NC and VA. Relatives there tell me it's not too hot when it is humid and the mountains (such as they are at only around 6000' feet) help.
Portions of TX would probably be OK humidity wise, but there's the dearth of public lands there so TX by choice would likely be out of the question.
The upper Midwest, starting around Kansas is boring, flat, and mostly too crowded for me. The weather sucks worse than it does here, the humidity gets too high at times, there's friggen tornadoes, too much boring flat land farming. Probably wouldn't choose to live there.
ND, SD, CO, NM, while they have decent amount of public land and aren't "flat" like the Midwest probably not suitable due to the lack of access to an ocean without an even longer drive than here. CO and NM are rapidly becoming as f'd up politically as where we are now, and dang near as expensive to buy property in many of the nicer places from what I've heard. Probably wouldn't choose any of those 4.
MT and WY would be good candidates if I weren't married. I can survive and enjoy basically any of the weather most of those two would throw at me, most of the time. The windier areas of WY could suck badly though. I enjoy the wind to a point, just as I enjoy rain to a point, but not every friggen day.
Relatives in AZ, those in the mountains and those in the desert are both not happy with the way that State is becoming crowded and changing politically. I lived there, in both parts, for the better part of 7 years and love AZ as it fits most of my desires. Lots of public land, fishing and hunting for a large variety of game and types of fish , excellent weather even at 7000', not too terribly far from an ocean (Mexico or SoCal), decent Mexican food, still not too terribly crowded but becoming more so as I type, and it's fairly near to a majority of my close relatives.
I could probably do AK again, the wife not so much. Cross that one off as long as I'm still married.
OR, WA, NorCal interiors are nice weather wise, public land availability, lack of crowds, etc, but we all know they are run by the big cities as far as laws go. I am surviving the best I can here, but get more anxious every day. Knowing our local Sheriff has our back for the most part helps, he's not committing resources to enforcing anti 2A laws, they exist but he's not pushing for arrests.
Coastal OR, WA, and NorCal have way too much rain for me. Some places in NorCal are over 60" rain since 1 Oct, coastal OR and WA worse I bet. I don't like wearing rain gear that much. Did it for a living a few times and it's not my preference just to get outdoors.
SoCal, and most of Central CA is out, way too many friggen people, too much traffic, smog, crime etc.
ID, outside of certain metro areas I could probably do ID. Again, the wife probably not.
HI, except for the politics it's kind of a paradise for a guy like me that prefers to live in shorts and sandals (at most) and loves the ocean and fresh seafood and tropical fruits (and bikini clad wimmins). The Big Island would suit me fine for the most part, maybe the public land thing would suck, I'd just go spear some fish to get over it I think, or find a place to hunt pigs or turkeys. Once again, there's that politics thing though.
I think I left out places like ME, NH, VT etc. Even upstate NY and parts of western MA. I could enjoy parts of living there, great public lands, fishing and stuff, but on a whole it's way too crowded and there's that humidity thing for good portions of the year. And....................politics.
For those of you East of, oh let's say the Front Range ..............................there are no real mountains back there, especially in States like OH or PA. Granted there are some steep places but a lot of us Out West live at elevations considered the lowlands in our area that are well above the highest points in your States and we generally have access close by to real mountains much higher than where we live. Even our deserts have taller mountains than anywhere east of the Mississippi River. And for some of us, not having mountains is a strange, strange concept.
Beware of where you choose to call home, unless you're an old fart like me and even then nothing is certain, the place you choose is likely to change dramatically in a few years.
If youve lived in the South around tons of groids, I could make anything work almost.
Except for extreme Northeastern states
You’ll never earn your chevrons until you have >30% negro in your city-county-state. Alla this “never been east of Pocatello”…..eat a dick tiddy baby
You have such a way with words.
What about 50% Injun?
The real problem for me isn't "who" but "how many per sq mile". When any group gets concentrated (as on a Rez or in a ghetto, or a trailer park ) they tend to become problematic.
We're in that really dark area NW a bit of Reno and bit WE of the smaller dot that is Klamath Falls. It's kinda nice out here.
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
Nowhere north of North Carolina, nowhere north of the Ohio River, not California, not Hawaii, Oregon, nor Washington, and probably not New Mexico nor Colorado. It is a shame for some of those states as several have good people and resources, but the politics are unbearable to me. I have traveled to 48 states over the decades and most of them fairly extensively. Of the "lower 48", I admit that I have had very limited travel into Maine and Michigan, but have covered the others fairly extensively. I remember my father and I talking about this very subject a few decades ago and I told him then - 1980's - that I preferred basically either the south or northwest. With the current political trends, I would sadly have to scratch the Pacific coastal states. It's also a shame about Virginia and Maryland politics, but it is what it is. Same with Colorado and New Mexico. I guess I had best pretty much stay in the south. Having said all that, I would really like to check out the southern part of Alaska some day. I suspect that I had better hurry up if I am going to.
"...why, land is the only thing in the world worth working for, worth fighting for, worth dying for,... because it is the only thing that lasts."
For me it's IDAHO, Montana, ND, SD, Wyoming & Texas. I've never been a hot weather person but after a while I fell in love with Texas & a lot of great people. Have seen a lot of the other states, some I didn't care for but a lot of wonderful people in all of them. I still have military buddies in several of the eastern states, they stick it out so it must be ok, I couldn't live there, I would miss the mountains too much. I'll put up with the cold winters & gladly enjoy the freedoms of Idaho. Enjoy what you have & if you leave don't take your bad habits with you.
I've been to 46 of the states (I still have OR, WA, AK & HI to go). I grew up in the sweltering swamps of south Louisiana so too hot is always an attraction. Anywhere in Dixie gets a thumbs up.
Basically my No-Go zone is mapped out by sticking a pin in OK and going due north to ND and then northeast towards DE. The north central & northeast areas of the country have limited appeal to me. I'd rather hang out along the coast or visit the Rocky Mtn states. The southeast & the west are my preferred areas to spend time.
I could live anywhere with decent hunting, good fishing, and good economic opportunities.
What's amazing to me is how many people live in areas, wish for something better, but don't do what they have available. Doers tend to do stuff no matter where they are at. And people who make excuses and don't really get out much do the exact same thing no matter where they are.
Absolutely.
had a lot of fun in WA but when I left realized there was still a lot of stuff I wanted to do and see.
Lived in CO for 5 years. Climbed 14’rs, elk, birds, some great hiking, hunting, fishing trips. When I left I thought about the things I still wanted to do.
There is always something over the horizon, but make sure you do what’s right in front of ya and not just walk by it.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
There a lot of places in this country that I consider nice to visit, but. . .
Florida is top of the list. I love the place. My family built down there November-March every year. My dad graduated from Miami Beach High. He would never spend a summer down there. I tend to agree.
I love Wisconsin, but only in the summer. After Labor Day, the place loses its appeal in a big fat hurry. I'd never move there because of the taxes.
The short list of places I would never consider: CA, IL, NY, CT, WA, OR If you don't like my guns, I don't like you.
I'm third gen Cincinnatian. If you look at the history of why I'm here, it can kind of explain why my tastes are the way they are. Dad's side came here in '23 to start over after leaving Marburg. We'd been there since medieval times, and probably a lot longer. We picked Cincinnati, because it had a mild climate, a thriving German population, cheap land and a ready homebuilding market. We didn't like mountains. We didn't like the sea. We didn't like volcanos or earthquakes or deserts. We'd been living on a hill overlooking a river valley since before Teutoburg Forest.
The farm in 63 miles from Cincinnati. I live on a hill overlooking ridges leading down to the river. The land was cheap. There was once a thriving German population. It'll be cheap to build there.
Guns? Someone suggested that I call the sheriff prior to having a Class 3 shoot at the farm. The idea was that with all that ordinance going off, a neighbor might call and I didn't want the deputies showing up thinking it was a drug war. The dispatcher put me on hold and rang up the sheriff. She quickly came back with a thanks for the heads-up, and a request that, should I schedule another one, the sheriff would like to bring his Class3 devices over and share in the shoot.
I love Wisconsin, but only in the summer. After Labor Day, the place loses its appeal in a big fat hurry. I'd never move there because of the taxes.
Of the available times to live in WI - summer is the worst. Easily. WI becomes interesting AFTER labor day, that is if you can and do like to hunt.
Tax wise, we have a graduated income tax - slightly above KY and my property taxes are just a bit over KY too but still around 1/2 the median in the US.
Spring fishing season is good too. Surprisingly good steelhead fishing (to me anyway) in the tributaries to the big lake. And fun fly fishing in the Driftless Area.
I love Wisconsin, but only in the summer. After Labor Day, the place loses its appeal in a big fat hurry. I'd never move there because of the taxes.
Of the available times to live in WI - summer is the worst. Easily. WI becomes interesting AFTER labor day, that is if you can and do like to hunt.
Tax wise, we have a graduated income tax - slightly above KY and my property taxes are just a bit over KY too but still around 1/2 the median in the US.
No, WI sucks. Don't waste your time. If you do, check out the Dells and stay south of 21.
Portions of TX would probably be OK humidity wise, but there's the dearth of public lands there so TX by choice would likely be out of the question.
I grew up in the very northern part of the Texas Panhandle. Can remember the times driving down to Austin (541 mi) and thinking I'd stepped into a sauna when I got out of the car.
I've crossed and re-crossed the country many times. I've spent considerable time in Alabama, North Carolina, and Florida. Also in upstate New York. I have found that every state has something to offer but it is only in the inland northwest that I feel at home. I like Montana, although the population sometimes seems to be about 40% Californian. I was born in Idaho and spent many of my formative years there. Again, it has become excessively Californicated, but it's still like home. I like Nevada, Las Vegas excepted. I might have fifteen years of hunting left (that may be a little optimistic). After that, it doesn't much matter. GD
Number one on anyone's list should be New Jersey, Most states have a least one redeeming quality. Not Jersey. That being said . I am convinced life is better for me where I am , no stress , less people and plenty of hunting and fishing, though I do wish there were more panfish to eat............
Well, they do have the Pine Barrens there. It's kind of a redeeming quality. And as I recall, some decent salt water fishing.
The Pine Barrens is too small an area to provide shelter from the rest of the State, Some decent fishing for Pickerel and such. but not worth any effort . Vineland and the other small towns inland in south Jersey are garbage dumps . The Coast is like every other beach front in the USA anymore except the water looks like NYC street runoff, Oh yea it is........
A few places I would like to live ... S.W. Wisconsin, A small part of Upper Michigan, N.E. Iowa , maybe western Missouri . I think I would like S.E . South Dakota . However, there are bad things about these areas too. No place is perfect.. There are a lot of posters here that think that where they live is better than it is. I live in S.E. Wis. Some here say they would never live here, but not so fast. I live in farm country. There is no crime . My taxes on my house and 4 ac. has not gone up in 15 yrs. I have 7,000 ac. of public land 3 miles away . It is not bad for deer , but sure could be better. I can be on Lake Michigan in 1 hr. and catch trout and salmon. I can be on the Mississippi River in 3 hours , and the fishing is so good you would not believe. I can be in some real big woods in NW . Wis. in 4 hours by my cabin on my river. I pay $540 yr. in taxes there . I can be on Green Bay in 2 hours . Some of the best walleye , bass and northern fishing there is. I have a real good walleye lake 26 mi. away that is 138,000 ac. It gets darn cold here , and hot too, but it is not that bad.
But the fruits of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,faithfulness, Gentleness and self control. Against such things there is no law. Galations 5: 22&23
Any states have a few decent spots, some more than others... The key to that is that the Government have no idea that you ever existed..and you have plenty of money in banks under other names than your own name. Just identify as "a transient."
Or just travel the country in a motor home.. under an alias.
"Minus the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the Country" Marion Barry, Mayor of Wash DC
“Owning guns is not a right. If it were a right, it would be in the Constitution.” ~Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
The key to that is that the Government have no idea that you ever existed..and you have plenty of money in banks under other names than your own name. Just identify as "a transient."
Or just travel the country in a motor home.. under an alias.
The N. E. corner of California , Modac county California would likely be a nice place to live. Mountains and public land everywhere. I bet almost all the residents are conservatives too. You can be in Oregon or Nevada in an hour.
But the fruits of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,faithfulness, Gentleness and self control. Against such things there is no law. Galations 5: 22&23
Washington lawmakers are killing the firearms industry, shutting down a legal industry. I don't much about other states so I can't say but Wa is a hard no-go.
_______________________________________________________ An 8 dollar driveway boy living in a T-111 shack
Number one on anyone's list should be New Jersey, Most states have a least one redeeming quality. Not Jersey. That being said . I am convinced life is better for me where I am , no stress , less people and plenty of hunting and fishing, though I do wish there were more panfish to eat............
Ever been there? Politics aside, NJ has excellent fishing, waterfowling, bear and deer hunting. The Italian food is pretty good too. I don't knownthat I would want to live there, but it doesn't have some redeeming qualities. You could certainly do much worse.
Number one on anyone's list should be New Jersey, Most states have a least one redeeming quality. Not Jersey. That being said . I am convinced life is better for me where I am , no stress , less people and plenty of hunting and fishing, though I do wish there were more panfish to eat............
Ever been there? Politics aside, NJ has excellent fishing, waterfowling, bear and deer hunting. The Italian food is pretty good too. I don't knownthat I would want to live there, but it doesn't have some redeeming qualities. You could certainly do much worse.
Nice country in CA, away from the coast. Same for upstate NY, western PA, etc. just the stupid politics that taint the whole.
Friend of mine is from Jersey heard him tell of the piney ppls
the Joysee Devil lives there
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
Almost every state has its sweet spots and no states that I know of have a liberal free large cities . It boils down to the climate that you like and the population density that you are willing to live around. For all the bashing Oregon gets from a lot of the posters on here I’m fine with it stay where you’re happy. We have the ocean,clean rivers and streams, lakes to go with the high desert and mountains. Lots of public land and OTC tags for part of the state and you can choose to live in about any type of climate you want in the state other than tropical. The downside is politics in the big cities out vote the rest of the state as you know. There’s only a couple of states I couldn’t figure out how to survive in and mostly due the climate.
Having lived in 9 other states and traveled to all of them, every place has its crappy weather. You've got to decide what crappy weather you want to put up with.
Don’t discount cultural differences in different regions of the country. I myself would struggle outside the Carolinas or Appalachian region. I enjoy visiting other areas, but I am always glad to get home.
Don’t discount cultural differences in different regions of the country. I myself would struggle outside the Carolinas or Appalachian region. I enjoy visiting other areas, but I am always glad to get home.
Understandable Wilkeshunter. Good point on the cultural differences as that is probably slower to change in an area than the population dynamics. There’s not many Norwegians where I live and I don’t ever see it changing. 🤞
Simple for me. ... any east of the Mississippi ...
Why?
Arizona, where you live, ended up in Biden’s camp in 2020. Whether or not that’s, in part, due to liberals there running the elections there, Arizona is WAY more liberal than many states east of the Mississippi.
For example, where I live, West Virginia went 69% for Trump—a higher percentage than every other state, except for Wyoming.
Arizona has voted blue in presidential elections twice since 1976. WVa on the other hand has done so 5 times in that same period. Az does tend to flip flop a bit between red and blue for the governorship, but not as much as WVa. And AZ is historically pretty well seated as red for senate and house over the same period, whereas WVa , not so much. Cudos to WVa for getting it together in recent years, but a one year hiccup for AZ (a very conservative state) with serious questions on election fraud during that time does not make for a bad state to live in.
Oh, yeah, the libs migrating in will destroy this state in future years, just like they do every other state they touch. But for now, less serious election fraud, AZ is still on the red team. With azz loads of public land, and a free 2A state, I'll take it. AZ was also (next to Alaska and Vermont) one of the first states to adopt constitutional carry. And open carry has never been an issue here.
Make no mistake, despite how the last presidential election and governor's election went, AZ is a red state. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater... AZ will go so red this next go around that no amount of election fraud could possibly cover the spread.
Guns are responsible for killing as much as Rosie O'Donnel's fork is responsible for her being FAT.
Any place that doesn't have 3 month long deer seasons,Any place that gives me 5 deer tags Any place that let's me hunt pigs and exotics year round.Looks like the only state I would live in is TEXAS.Why live anywhere else?They just need to include a few more "special"tags for those other exotics that r pouring in.
Rehab is for quitters! THEY are all guilty! Name one honest politician! DEFINE Treason. God bless the USA Democrats ARE the plague! RINO'S need to be hunted! Who's a bigger puzzy than Paul Ryan? Mike Pence? John Kerry ? REELECT NOBODY! Except Trump
Simple for me. ... any east of the Mississippi ...
Why?
Arizona, where you live, ended up in Biden’s camp in 2020. Whether or not that’s, in part, due to liberals there running the elections there, Arizona is WAY more liberal than many states east of the Mississippi.
For example, where I live, West Virginia went 69% for Trump—a higher percentage than every other state, except for Wyoming.
Arizona has voted blue in presidential elections twice since 1976. WVa on the other hand has done so 5 times in that same period. Az does tend to flip flop a bit between red and blue for the governorship, but not as much as WVa. And AZ is historically pretty well seated as red for senate and house over the same period, whereas WVa , not so much. Cudos to WVa for getting it together in recent years, but a one year hiccup for AZ (a very conservative state) with serious questions on election fraud during that time does not make for a bad state to live in.
Oh, yeah, the libs migrating in will destroy this state in future years, just like they do every other state they touch. But for now, less serious election fraud, AZ is still on the red team. With azz loads of public land, and a free 2A state, I'll take it. AZ was also (next to Alaska and Vermont) one of the first states to adopt constitutional carry. And open carry has never been an issue here.
Make no mistake, despite how the last presidential election and governor's election went, AZ is a red state. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater... AZ will go so red this next go around that no amount of election fraud could possibly cover the spread.
Sorry Dave but to me Az wouldn’t be a choice even keeping politics out. You in the SW seem to have water issues every year and people flock there. And EXTREME HEAT which i despise .So for me states never to live in are a. High population, b. Low natural resources. C. High temperatures then finally politics. Like for me Minnesota fits a,b,c but fails d especially downstate.
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