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Originally Posted by Blackheart
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I never saw enough difference between the 30-30 and 35 to keep both. So I kicked the 35 down the road and got a 45-70
My .35 got replaced by a Remington 760 carbine in .30-06.
That's all my Dad would hunt with

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Originally Posted by moosemike
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I never saw enough difference between the 30-30 and 35 to keep both. So I kicked the 35 down the road and got a 45-70
My .35 got replaced by a Remington 760 carbine in .30-06.
That's all my Dad would hunt with
They were very popular here in the Catskills back in the '70's.... 760's, 742's, 336's and 94's ruled. You couldn't hardly swing a dead cat in the woods without hitting somebody carrying one or the other. Bolt actions were a rarity at that time. I eventually traded that 760 carbine for a 22" barreled 7600. The muzzle blast and flash from the carbine were fierce.

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I wonder how many bar fight have been started in PENN when the debate was 30-30 WIN vs 35 REM

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Originally Posted by Jericho
I wonder how many bar fight have been started in PENN when the debate was 30-30 WIN vs 35 REM
I actually heard a lot of 35 Rem vs 30-06 arguments back in the day. Those two seemed to be the dominant choices

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We've killed a bunch of deer with the 30-30, 30-06 and 7.62x39. Deer ain't hard to kill. I've killed another dozen with various 44 & 45 revolvers & four with 40 & 45 autos.

The problem with deer is they don't hang out on the Internet and consequently, aren't educated on which rifles or pistols are supposed to drop 'em like a lightnin' bolt. I blew the heart out of a little 110 pound doe with a 30-06 once and watched her saunter off 20 yards, jump a four stand fence and hit the ground like a wet sack on the other side.

I might not have tried the 35 Remington at all, but I stumbled an old straight stock Marlin made before micro-groove. I gas it up to about 40,000 PSI with the Sierra 200 grain bullet, which expands perfectly at 2150 fps.

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I've shot it into water jugs, 5 gallon buckets etc to 200 yards and the bullet is still working out there. I hit a doe in the near shoulder, quartering in, at 130 yards with that load and it sat her down hard.

The 35Rem does good work on deer and I like the fat heavy bullet for anything bigger. I intend to shoot a black bear with it at some point. If it eats me I'll get on here and own up to it, so y'all can make fun of my antique-ass old rifle and cartridge. I don't GAS what factory ammo costs because I never shoot it. I stocked up heavy on reloading components before the Stoopids, so I can shoot for S&G and still have hunting ammo for at least ten years.


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I've had several 30-30's and 35 Rem's. I'm down to one 35 Rem in a 336 made in 1955. I have several 30-30's, a Marlin made in 1949, and a Mossberg, and a Remington 788. Over the years I've had '94's, and a 94.
The Mossberg has a mounted scope (for my wife). It is very accurate. The 788 wears a scope too, but so far, I have pretty much kept it in the safe.
That waffle top 30-30 is pretty nice and I've shot nice groups with it.
Example: 30-30 Marlin 336, 150 grain Core Lokt, 33 grains H335, 0.2" - 3 shot group at 54 yards for example.

I cast bullets for both and with cast bullets I think the 35 has the advantage. But why anyone would dislike one or the other, IDK? Maybe they had a bad experience with one? As far as one is much worse than the other, I disagree. I think that bullet selection makes a bigger difference than the caliber. Back in the day I think the 35 had the advantage, and probably it still does.


As far how much it costs to shoot one or the other - sort of 6 of one and a half dozen for the other. But I rarely buy factory ammo. I have all the brass I need for either and for the rest of my life.

If I only shot factory ammo, I'd prefer the 30-30.


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I had one in a 336 SC but it went down the road. Now have A very early 760 and m141 in 35 Rem. I have some 200 gr ww power pts and some 200 grn. Roundnose rem as well. Have any of you use the 150 gr Remington ptd corelokt in your 35's an how did they do?.mb


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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
I had one in a 336 SC but it went down the road. Now have A very early 760 and m141 in 35 Rem. I have some 200 gr ww power pts and some 200 grn. Roundnose rem as well. Have any of you use the 150 gr Remington ptd corelokt in your 35's an how did they do?.mb
Yes. I shot an 8 point buck with the 35 Rem 150 grain Core-Lokt. Even at 100 yards it went to pieces. It made for a quick kill but I don't know how it would've went if the range was much shorter

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i know this a Marlin site, but in my younger days i killed alot of deer with my 1972 Winchester m94 in 30-30 with 150 and 170gr factory loads. one shot / one kill was the rule. Back then i loved open sights but now, my eyes ain't what they used to be. then about 25+/- years ago, i put her in back of my safe and i just pllain forgot about her. about 5ish years, i sent the m94 to JES Reboring and it came back a 35/30-30. then i use 200gr RCBS FN GC with 2400/tuft of dacron and it goes 1726fps. i know the bullet goes slow and there is no recoil to speak of........but in the past 4 years, she has spoke 3 times. 1 buck and 2 does. the buck was at 53 yards and the two does were 20-30 yards. i don't alot of fps to put the deer down.

brass is simple to find and all you need is a 35 Remington dies. i use 35/30-30 CH4D dies and 30-30 Starline brass. i gave all of my 30-30 brass (Federal, Remington, Winchester...) to my son to use in his Savage m340.

i did, however put a Williams FP aperture sight on it. i couldn't see the open sights and the target.

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After a day at the range this week, my SIL was in a spasm to buy a lever gun. I ended up selling my '52 SC 35 Rem. to him at a discounted price.

I threw a new load together to give him an option on what we're going to set him up with. His gun now, so he shot for groups. I thought I could tighten up on this load and asked to shoot the last three rounds. I'll file this one away for future loading. I mislabeled the target as a '53, it's a '52.

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I've owned 3 rifles in 35 Remington and still have two. I've carried them hunting a fair amount and have taken 4 deer with them. A solid hit and they fold in their tracks. I've actually had a doe run farther after a hit from my 35 Whelen. I can't speak about the 30-30 Win for hunting because I've never owned one. Back when I stocked up 30-30 ammo was $20 per box, and 35 Rem ammo was $28 per box. I've seen it lately for sale for closer to $50 per box, but that's not a deal breaker for a good box of shells. If the difference in this cost empties your wallet I'd be finding another means of employment.

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I still have a 336 in 30-30 and one in 35 rem. I never carry the 30-30 any more. I have never been impressed with the cartridge. I can see it as a truck gun on a ranch to shoot a crippled or hopelessly sick cow in the head. Maybe use it to take out an armadillo or a possum. But for deer? Naaaa, the 35 just works better.

Someone in this thread called the 35 rem the most overrated cartridge of all times. LOL! It will never be that as long as the 30-30 is still out there. The deer I have shot with a 30-30 did die but it was like poking a hole in their lungs with a long number 2 pencil. Never had deer run so far and bleed so little despite being shot perfectly behind their shoulder in my life. My advice to new 30-30 hunters is wear a good pair of hiking shoes and bring a tracking dog and a ball peen hammer to finish the animal off with. Maybe the 30-30 is fine for northern states with snow on the ground during deer season. That white snow would make it more easy find the 4 drops of blood that will leak out of the pencil hole a 30-30 pokes in a deer. Those 4 drops are harder to spot in a southern briar thicket however.

But just to show I'm not all negative about the 30-30 I will say this. It is definitely an eat right up to the hole cartridge because it doesn't do enough damage to bloodshot any meat. So no wasted meat. Well unless you count the spot on their head were you have to hit them with the ball peen hammer.

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I have always liked the Marlin 336 and have owned one since 1967. My favorite is an SC model in 35 Remington. Someone had tried to convert it to a Texan and really screwed up the job. That was good for me because I could make the conversion by correcting the problem areas without ruining the collectable value of an original SC. I got it at a low price too since it didn't work at all. I have the standard Texan model as well as a Marauder in 35 Rem, all shoot great, but this SC is by far my favorite.

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Originally Posted by Mathsr
I have always liked the Marlin 336 and have owned one since 1967. My favorite is an SC model in 35 Remington. Someone had tried to convert it to a Texan and really screwed up the job. That was good for me because I could make the conversion by correcting the problem areas without ruining the collectable value of an original SC. I got it at a low price too since it didn't work at all. I have the standard Texan model as well as a Marauder in 35 Rem, all shoot great, but this SC is by far my favorite.

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That's a nice one. The SC is my favorite too.

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The Speer 180 grain FP is hard to beat for any 35 cal. They shot really well in any 35 Rem that I owned. Currently shooting them in a BLR 358 Win and a Rem 673 350 Rem mag.

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I finished sighting in the Texan today and it's ready to hunt. The first picture in this thread was with factory FTX in the original brown box. Today's FTX ammo is in the new packaging. It was more accurate, amazingly so.

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Mine is a 1951 or 52 waffle top with a Lyman peep. It will soon be making its appearance in the woods.


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I own 2 Marlins: a 1964 Marlin 336 and a Marlin/Glenfield 30 with the impressed deer head “checkering” and the 3/4 tube; both in 30/30. I started deer hunting in the mid 60’s because Mississippi didn’t have much of a deer population except on the west side of the levee on the Mississippi River. You had to be rich to be able to join the exspensive clubs there. My college roommate had a Marlin in .35 and we both killed deer with our respective rifles of choice. His 35 had more smackdown power as one would expect. I used the 30/30 exclusively with some old Remington 170 gr HP and still have a handful that I sparingly use when I take the Marlin out for old times sake. My son has borrowed the Marlin/Glenfield so that my 10 year old granddaughter can kill her first deer. No luck this past season but that’s cos he just moved back here and he’s gained access to some good hunting spots. He killed a total of 6 this year- 2 bucks and the rest does with his Remington Model in 6mmRemington. One was killed Christmas morning while he was taking the Christmas wrapping to the trash can at 7:00 am. A 9 point was chasing a doe in the the pasture behind the house and he retrieved his rifle and killed while still in his holiday pajamas! A great story and Christmas tale to be remembered. I smile every time I see the picture. Does anybody else remember the the old REM 170 grain Hollow Point 30/30 cartridges?

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Originally Posted by carrollco
Does anybody else remember the the old REM 170 grain Hollow Point 30/30 cartridges?
Just yesterday I saw a box of 100 of those bullets (not cartridges) for sale on GB. Almost bid on them, just for old times sake!


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Originally Posted by mrchongo
Originally Posted by carrollco
Does anybody else remember the the old REM 170 grain Hollow Point 30/30 cartridges?
Just yesterday I saw a box of 100 of those bullets (not cartridges) for sale on GB. Almost bid on them, just for old times sake!
I used to use a bunch of the Winchester 150 gr HP in 30-30. Worked great on deer.

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