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God is not a magician. We did COME into existence by an act of divine creation. But that was a process not bounded by our sense of time. Anything in existence has a trail of creation behind. This trail is simply the process by which God controlled creation. We are not evidence of a random “pop into existence” but evidence of creation by superior intelligence. That intelligence is God; an existence in another sphere of reality unexplained by earthly science.

God is the Supreme Scientist; the source of all things created. His explanation to me of how exactly His process of creation works is tantamount to me explaining to a dog exactly how a dark room becomes lighted when he and I go in. Imagine explaining electricity to a dog. That to me is comparable to God attempted to explain his abilities to us.

Beyond all that is faith, but faith by discovery not declaration. That is faith through interaction. I can’t advise anyone how to achieve that for themselves other than such as this scripture:

Jeremiah 29:13
13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.

It may sound strange coming from me but this is real. Careful when you seek safe harbor from God, when you pray sincerely for his intervention in your life. I say this in all sincerity. He is a goal oriented being not subject to how you want things to play out aka process oriented defined by you. I came to know this at a pivotal time in my life a couple of years ago. He is real. Belief or opinion aside He is real.

Personal belief…..ok.

Re: Pearly Gates…. Nope, never seen them….what ever they may or may not be….but perhaps you would equate seeing the Pearly Gates as some sort of confirmation or justification of belief. I don’t hold to that idea.

Wouldn’t it seem logical that if God was real He would make Himself known to us?

He does make the reality of Himself known….to each and every one of us….. then the question becomes “What do I do about it?”

You can follow up and seek God….. or one can rebel, ignore or otherwise reject God and His claim on you.

See ….Romans Chapter 1

More like a little brat who needs to be scolded and sent to his room:

The Squire of Gothos" is the 17th episode of the first season of the American science-fiction television series, Star Trek. Written by Paul Schneider, and directed by Don McDougall, it first aired on January 12, 1967.

In the episode, the childish but powerful ruler of the planet Gothos captures the crew of the Enterprise for his own amusement.


Plot
The USS Enterprise, under the command of Captain Kirk, is on an 8-day supply mission to Colony Beta VI. Passing through a "star desert," the ship encounters a rogue planet previously hidden from their sensors. As Lt. Sulu attempts to enter a course around the planet, he suddenly vanishes from the bridge, and Kirk vanishes a moment later.

First Officer Spock assumes that the two must have been taken to the planet, though sensor readings indicate the planet's atmosphere is lethal to most forms of life. The Enterprise then receives a strange message on a viewscreen in blackletter writing: "Greetings and Felicitations!", followed by "Hip hip hoorah. Tallyho!" Spock orders Chief Medical Officer Dr. McCoy, along with Lt. DeSalle and geophysicist Karl Jaeger, to form a landing party and conduct a search.

The landing party beams down and unexpectedly finds itself in a lush and breathable environment. They also come across what appears to be a medieval castle, within which they find Captain Kirk and Lt. Sulu, immobilized, along with a humanoid being who identifies himself as "General Trelane, retired", and invites everyone to stay as his guests on his world, which he calls Gothos. He also explains that his hobby is studying Earth history and still (wrongly) believes Earth is engaging in world conquest. McCoy's medical tricorder is unable to identify him as a living being.

Spock manages to locate the landing party in a minute zone of breathable atmosphere, and beams everyone, except Trelane, back to the ship by locking onto every detectable lifeform in the area. Trelane, however, appears on the bridge of the Enterprise, and brings the entire bridge crew down to the planet, including Spock, Communications Officer Lt. Uhura, and Yeoman Teresa Ross. Trelane invites his "guests" to partake of his food (which has no taste), and his brandy (which also has no taste). Spock reasons that Trelane knows only the forms of Earth's history and not the substances, the equivalent of someone 900 light years away from Earth who is studying Earth history through a telescope, but having no concept that 400 years have passed.

Kirk's patience starts wearing thin, especially when Trelane dances with Yeoman Ross and changes her standard red uniform into a 19th-century ball gown. Kirk and Spock both notice that he never strays far from a particular wall mirror, and they believe that the mirror is the source of his powers. To test this theory, Kirk provokes Trelane into a duel, and during the fight, he destroys the mirror and damages some strange machinery inside. The bridge crew then beams back to the Enterprise, but as the ship attempts to warp away, the planet Gothos keeps appearing in its path. Kirk finally orders the Enterprise into orbit and decides to beam down.

On the planet, Kirk finds Trelane seated on a courtroom bench, dressed in the white wig and robes reminiscent of an English circuit judge. Trelane reads charges of "treason", "conspiracy", and "fomenting insurrection", and then, silencing Kirk's protests, condemns Kirk to death by hanging. Kirk, however, points out that Trelane could find a more stimulating alternative. Trelane suggests that Kirk be prey for a royal hunt, and Kirk agrees in return for the release of his ship. The hunt begins, and Kirk is eventually cornered at the castle entrance, but he remains defiant, and even slaps Trelane across the face twice, and tells him he has a lot to learn about life and breaks Trelane's sword. Outraged, Trelane tells Kirk he didn't play the game right.

Suddenly, Trelane's parents - who appear as two green pulsating blobs - call out to Trelane, and he yells at them, reminding him that they said he could have the planet Gothos as his very own. They yell at him for his disobedience and cruelty towards more lesser beings, and tell him several times to "come along," but he continually refuses to listen to them. Kirk listens to their argument, and realizes that Trelane is really a spoiled child, and that the planet Gothos was his "playground." After Trelane's parents take him away, they apologize to Kirk, and he asks: "Who are you? Who is Trelane?" They don't answer his questions, but they do admit it was their fault for indulging their child too much, and he will be punished. They also tell Kirk that they wouldn't have allowed Trelane to intercept them if they knew how vulnerable he was. They also maintained the life support systems on the planet while Kirk returned to his ship.

What also remains is your habit of stating your own unsubstantiated opinions as fact.

You are talking to yourself………as I have told you before, seems like “whistling in the graveyard.”


Btw…evidence abounds but you will not admit it. Interestingly, the Pharisees had Jesus in their midst and were there when he taught and did miracles……

Yet, despite the evidence right before them, they denied the deity of Christ.


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Anyway, gotta go, trout are starting to spawn and I am gonna go fishing tomorrow….signing off.

My beliefs are not informed, one way or the other, by gay Hollywood producers of Star Trek.

I believe in God.

Yes I believe in God the father, his son Jesus,and the Holy Spirit.

AMEN!!!

I do believe in the Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.
And Always Will !

This is the talk of a zealot!

Catch a bunch and GOD Bless ya.

The Prince of Peace gives me peace in my heart, HE preparest a Campfire for me in the midst of the Dumbassed Junkyard Dawg Crew. He restoreth my mind, body and spirit daily. HE is my defender and protector and salvation and provided HIS cleansing blood to sanctify and save me for all eternity.

Oh, I do. I can’t make logical sense out of many things, if he doesn’t exist.

I don’t really want to think about how I would be, if I didn’t believe that he existed. But I think I know.

In other words, with many things, I can only find peace in Him.

Jag, how many here have you called non-believers without knowing a damn thing about their personal lives?

Wole binch.

Most are, they believe because they fear the unknown and have no faith in themselves.

It's always the carrot that inspires people to be followers, if you listen and believe in me you will be rewarded, given your own island loaded with virgins.

You have it backwards, as usual. You should know by now that it is evidence that justifies a belief, that evidence provides substance for what is said or claimed.

It is not I who makes the fantastic, unsubstantiated claim that there is someone, a God, who created the universe.

That is you. You make that claim without a shred of evidence.

Those of us that BELIEVE have seen, heard and felt Him and we have all the evidence we need.

For those of you who don’t believe there’s nothing that we could do in our mortal world that would be sufficient for you, no evidence that we could provide that would convince you otherwise.

I believe and follow God, His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

i was raised a Roman Catholic, then when i turned 12yo and got my Confirmation, i stopped going to church and Catechism. then for 6 years there wasn't much of God in my life. then 18yo, i was ordered by my drill segreant to go to church/synagogue, he didn't care as long as i went. on Sundays, i went to couple of different catholic masses and even a Mormon mass....and no, i didn't find religion. i got married, had a couple of and got divorced in my 20s. it wasn't until i was in my early 30s when i decided to need something. Catholicism wasn't in my bag, so i decided i need something different. i read some books on Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Shintoism, Confucianism, Norse beliefs, Wicca, Druidism (Celtic) and North American Indian religion.

well, i believe in Animism (Native American and a little bit of Shinto/Chinese Folk religion). whether is a man, insect, animal, rock or a thunderstorm, everything has a soul or spirit. i also believe in my ancestors. i believe in a divine spirit, but he does not interact with us. He created the world and everything in it and then he left it with his sons and daughters or demigods.

believe or not, i don't care and neither should you.


however, i do believe in science and math. i don't believe in liberal causes and their aftereffects.

I don't believe in any gods. The staunch delusion of belief has caused, and continues to cause, much batshittery.