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Job tried that...
Besides God says,
8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 58:8-9

Reminds me of an old saying "Life here on earth will be the only heaven unbelievers will ever experience and life here on earth will be the only hell believers will ever experience"

Do you believe everything you read?

IF a sociopath on trial for the killing of 10 persons were to use the defense: "my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways" I doubt if that would constitute a valid defense. And effectively saying that as Heaven is higher than earth, therefore my crimes and lack of action are ok, doesn't sit right with me. Hypothetically, when I go to Heaven, if I were to somehow start raping all the angels in Heaven, then that would be fine as I was in Heaven, and whatever happens in Heaven is ok because the Heavens are higher than the earth. It's also saying that sins or amoral actions in Heaven are fine...yet we tend to think of Heaven as not being crime riddled but free from sin and free from crime.

This is an interesting question. For exploration, please post the documented list of disgusting behaviors by God, and the instances where God was required to intervene and did not. Thank you.

Also, it is nobler in God’s sight to believe without needing a miracle. Jesus visited the Samaritans, and “because of his words many more became believers” (John 4:41, emphasis added). Just a few verses later, Jesus rebukes the Galileans: “Unless you people see miraculous signs and wonders . . . you will never believe” (John 4:48). Unlike the Samaritans, the people of Galilee required signs and wonders.

2. Some people seek after signs and wonders because they do not believe the signs and wonders which have already been performed. The Pharisees of Matthew 12 were just such a lot. Jesus had been performing miracles for quite some time when a group of scribes and Pharisees came to Him with an insolent demand to see another sign. In response, Jesus condemned them as “wicked and adulterous” (Matthew 12:38-39).

They were “wicked” in that they refused to believe the signs and wonders Christ had already performed. “In spite of his wonders, they did not believe” (Psalm 78:32). Their hearts were hardened towards the truth, even after numerous public miracles. Nothing would make them believe; their hearts were as pharaoh’s, hardened after witnessing so many of Moses’ miracles in Egypt (Exodus 9:34-35).

They were “adulterous” in the spiritual sense, having left the true worship of God to follow a man-made set of rules and traditions. Not satisfied with the miracles Jesus was doing, they demanded something even greater. As commentator Matthew Barnes puts it, “They looked for signs of their own devising.” So entrenched was their rejection of Christ that, when later presented with the “sign of the prophet Jonah” (Christ’s resurrection, Matthew 12:39-40), they still would not believe.

3. Some people seek after signs and wonders because they seek an occasion to excuse their unbelief. There were people in Jesus’ day who “tested” Him by seeking a sign (Matthew 16:1; Luke 11:16). Since they

GOD gives the gift of Discernment to many of HIS. Unbelievers, not so much.

To those who have much (like faith, more is given.

Sorry, Charley.

Well, I just gave two examples, perhaps you can start answering those instead of arrogantly asking me to prepare a long list.

Every culture throughout history has been a "modern world" in its own time - such modernity always in flux. Is it your position that humans should be able to tell God how to behave in conformity to the then current condition of humanity?

I'm sorry I can't give you the answers you want, all I can do is tell you what God says in His word, which I take on faith to be The truth. I think I said earlier that you can go to God with honest and sincere questions. Many have, you might be surprised.

HE loves you and gave His only begotten son for you. HE blessed you with life. HE gave you the Word and the Word is JESUS.

HE loves you enough that HE wants you to enjoy a short life on earth that HE may bless mightily with riches untold, as HE Blesses many who are lost. Why would HE want you to live life on earth in misery from worry. If you chose the ways of the flesh instead of the ways of the Everlasting Spirit it's your mistake, not HIS.

There is a reason JESUS weeps. He weeps for you. "My people perish for lack of knowledge."

I did not ask for a long list, but rather asked you to document God's disgusting behaviors in a list - even one example is a listing. I don't see a single such example in the above post. If you identified even one documented disgusting behavior, please re-post it. Same request for a required intervention that was not conducted. Thanks.

There's a subtle difference between telling God how to behave, and calling him out for intervening and executing with great vengeance a community should a tribe of people worship a false idol (that is, something that is not God) and then failing to take action when priests habitually sexually molest young innocent children who are attempting to worship God.

Someone asked, if GOD loved us so much, why didn't HE send JESUS CHRIST to Hell? HE did.

GOD meant us to be sinless and to live forever in the Garden of Eden eating grapes and multiplying. Satan beguiled Eve and Adam and sin entered into man. Man became of the weakness of flesh through sin which begats death to all.

After death from Crucifixion JESUS CHRIST spent 3 days in Hell and retrieved the keys to everlasting life from Lucifer. HE did that so those born of man in the flesh could still, after death of their flesh, still have GODS gift of the everlasting spirit HE had imparted into them by creating men in HIS Image.

Thus the battle between the Spirit and the Flesh.

HE gave men the power of choice.

See my above post.

Is it just he priest you are mad about? Of is it all molesters?

Sorry, HE nor I ever meant for you to have tangible proof. If HE gave proof even the evil would see and ask and end up in Heaven, like they do on the Fire.

I gave what I and others see. I presented what HE gave us to see. I see HIM there and the truth of HIS words are enough proof for me to have faith and believe.

Why I mention the priest molesters is because the little innocent children are doing their utmost at the time they are molested to worship, praise and learn about God. Yet God "rewards" them (and their parents who sent them to church) by allowing them to be molested. All molesters are scum in answer to your question.

You may be experiencing some subtlety, but you did not answer the question directly derived from your former post.

This is your "above post'': "Another threat by God...behavior that isn't tolerated in a modern world, but it's ok for God to do it." So - it is your position that a threat by God is disgusting behavior. Is that because you think that threats are not tolerated in your modern world? Or are you dodging the request to document what you label as God's "disgusting behaviors"?