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The only ones show their asses, again:

https://www.captainsjournal.com/2024/03/12/s-c-law-enforcement-on-the-new-constitutional-carry-law/

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COLUMBIA, S.C. (WIS) – Some law enforcement agencies are weighing in on Gov. Henry McMaster’s decision to sign a constitutional carry ― or permitless carry ― bill into law.

McMaster signed the constitutional carry into law on Thursday just a day after the South Carolina Senate passed a compromise.

It would allow a person 18 or older who can legally own a gun to openly carry their weapons without a permit or training.

Last year, several law enforcement agencies from across the state testified before legislators on why the legislature should not pass a bill like this.


But of course they did, just like in every other state (who considered constitutional carry) where they said there would be blood in the streets, and the wild, wild west, and that cops are “the only ones.”

Academy Director Jackie Swindler said he believes this new law will have an impact on the dynamic between law enforcement and the community.

“The potential is there for a lot of things to happen,” Swindler said.

Because of that, Swindler said officers and deputies may approach situations differently than they would before the constitutional carry bill was signed into law.

“People seem to have lost patience, people seem to have different temperaments,” he said.

“Now with the readily available of anyone having a gun or carrying a gun, that certainly does have the potential for different interactions between people. It certainly changes the dynamic of police answering calls and stopping cars,” he continued.

Newbery County Sheriff Lee Foster said, “I think the training should be mandatory, because I think a lot of people with good intentions, may get into trouble because they don’t know what the laws are.”


Let’s examine his objections so far: the nature of mankind has changed, it changes dynamics, people may get into trouble. Well, the nature of mankind hasn’t changed in millennia, cops should have always assumed that good and bad men carry weapons because that’s the way it’s always been, and criminals don’t care about the law.

The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division sent this guidance to law enforcement immediately after the governor signed constitutional carry into law.

Some of the points included in the guidance were possession of a firearm alone is not a reason to stop an individual, a person carrying a weapon does not have to notify law enforcement, and there are no restrictions on having a gun inside of your vehicle.


Well, at least the SLED, led by a corrupt leader, got that part right. S.C. isn’t a stop and identify state, and that would be unconstitutional even if it was.

We also reached out to Sheriff Leon Lott for a response to this law. He sent this statement which reads in part:

“I said a prayer last night that Richland County does not turn into the wild wild west,” he said. “This is a win for the criminals, who can now walk around with a gun and law enforcement cannot do anything about it.”

I support the right to carry and it was already in place with conceal weapons permit and the proper training, but this does nothing to make our communities safer; instead of getting guns off the street we just put more guns on the street,” the statement continues.


The wild, wild west. Like every cop everywhere has said in every state so far. It never happens. Oh, and you left out the part about “blood running in the streets.” As for putting more guns on the streets, you don’t know that. You just made that part up.

Oh my, such emotion, such drama. But if this law does one thing good – causing cops to become more respectful of the folks they’re interacting with and less tyrannical – it will have been worth it.


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Most spooks are carrying already.. What's the deal? One felony kills the right to carry, most have at least one felony before they become legal age.


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If you’re LEO and don’t assume everyone you come in contact with is armed you’re in the wrong line of work. But just because everyone is armed doesn’t mean even 1 will decide to kill you. Allowing those legally allowed to have a firearm to carry concealed doesn’t increase the likelihood of being shot. Those looking to shoot you have already been carrying concealed before it was legal whether or not they have been licensed.


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Hmmmmm- - - - -sounds like a business opportunity- - - -selling beach blanket sized crying towels to the jackbooted thugs. "An armed society is a polite society"- - - - -can't bully the "civilians" like they used to!


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Somebody carrying a concealed pistol in Texas back in 1960's/1970's would have caused a 20-car pile-on by the local LEO's and they would have been spitting Beechnut all over the poor citizen.


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It's funny that the LEO's are pissing and moaning about this.
They said the same thing in the early 90's when Texas expanded the conceal and carry laws.
And because their BS didn't happen back then, it was kinda quiet when they passed Constitutional Carry here.
Hell... My Pop carried a gun for as long as I can remember.I still have that three screw Ruger Blackhawk in .45Colt.


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Fitting name considering what he's trying to sell.


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Cops should assume everyone they are suspicious about is carrying a handgun, anyway, regardless of what the law says.

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. But if this law does one thing good – causing cops to become more respectful of the folks they’re interacting with and less tyrannical –

This is a Yuge reason why they hate laws like this and the Second Amendment.


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