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Originally Posted by Colorado1135
It's funny to hear all the boomers talk about paying in since the 60's and 70's. Then blaming the politicians since then for raiding it and then mock the workers now who are funding their SS checks.
That's our whole [bleep] point!

You didn't stop it the last 5 decades, you let it happen and didn't start complaining until recent years. And us workers that are paying in now so you can get it, guess what? We're not going to get anything when we get to retirement age because it won't exist or be so diluted it'll be $100 a month. With still rampant inflation.

You're right, none of you did anything to cause it directly. But you sure as hell didn't do anything to prevent it while you watched it happening. You had it easy, cheaper cost of living and opportunities galore for someone who wanted to work. Homes appreciated steadily building your wealth so you could leverage it to buy more houses for vacation or to rent for more money. .

Now a days housing is so expensive and blackrock owns most of them, bought from boomers who only cared about top dollar more than anything before going into a home where they took it all anyway. Kids entering the workforce now basically have no chance to make it on their own. Record numbers of renters, record prices. It's all leading to financial slavery of the future generations. Completely made possible by the greed of boomers that don't care about anything but themselves. You all changed the model of the American dream because you couldn't have enough always wanted more. Gen X to Z studies have shown what matters most is family and happiness over material possessions. Boomers only care about material possessions and how much $$$ they can accumulate. If they thought about anything other than themselves and been proactive to protect the American dream we might still have it as an option. It's the boomer generation that let everything happen that we see today and where America is at. They saw it happen as it was happening back in the 60's and 70's when it was small. Thousands of posts here can attest to it, they all talk about when the country turned towards the bad. It was long before Gen X to current were even born. Yet now they bitch because we are magically supposed to fix it after it's grown to the beast it is now with a fraction of the resources.

And they still could care less. The only thing they care about is themselves. They've said as much on this thread even and act like it's a justification. They're still doing nothing but watch it happen and blaming others, anyone but themselves.



“Cheaper cost of living?” “Rampant inflation?”
When is the last time you had a 17-18% mortgage? 😁


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I have read where some of the top money gurus claimed SS would have been OK financially or at least repairable if Bush had not signed the Medicare Prescription Drug Act in 2004. Sounds like big pharma was the winner again.


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Originally Posted by RUM7
For the record,
I don't hold Boomers accountable for the SS mess.

I do resent that they were the main drivers of the 60's hippie movement. Which seemed to kick off environmental activism and the downfall of the classical family unit in our society. Among many other trainwrecks.

Now they stand around and shake their fists at the subsequent generations as if they didn't kick the boulder of the cliff to begin with.

It has been my impression that LBJ's Great Society program was the seismic event that contributed to the downfall of the two parent classical/traditional family in the U.S. LBJ was born in 1908, 38 years before the beginning of the Baby Boomer Generation. The Baby Boomer Generation ran from 1946 thru 1964, so the oldest Boomers in the 1960s were between 14 and 24 years of age. Regardless of the era in American history, not many individuals between the ages of 14 and 24 have had much actual influence on national or world events.

Since nobody has any control over when they were born, holding any one individual accountable for the action of all of the people who were alive during his/her generation seems like a stretch to me.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by RUM7
For the record,
I don't hold Boomers accountable for the SS mess.

I do resent that they were the main drivers of the 60's hippie movement. Which seemed to kick off environmental activism and the downfall of the classical family unit in our society. Among many other trainwrecks.

Now they stand around and shake their fists at the subsequent generations as if they didn't kick the boulder of the cliff to begin with.

It has been my impression that LBJ's Great Society program was the seismic event that contributed to the downfall of the two parent classical/traditional family in the U.S. LBJ was born in 1908, 38 years before the beginning of the Baby Boomer Generation. The Baby Boomer Generation ran from 1946 thru 1964, so the oldest Boomers in the 1960s were between 14 and 24 years of age. Regardless of the era in American history, not many individuals between the ages of 14 and 24 have had much actual influence on national or world events.

Since nobody has any control over when they were born, holding any one individual accountable for the action of all of the people who were alive during his/her generation seems like a stretch to me.

Don't confuse these youngsters with facts. That's not fair much like many of their failures.


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Originally Posted by navlav8r
Originally Posted by Colorado1135
It's funny to hear all the boomers talk about paying in since the 60's and 70's. Then blaming the politicians since then for raiding it and then mock the workers now who are funding their SS checks.
That's our whole [bleep] point!

You didn't stop it the last 5 decades, you let it happen and didn't start complaining until recent years. And us workers that are paying in now so you can get it, guess what? We're not going to get anything when we get to retirement age because it won't exist or be so diluted it'll be $100 a month. With still rampant inflation.

You're right, none of you did anything to cause it directly. But you sure as hell didn't do anything to prevent it while you watched it happening. You had it easy, cheaper cost of living and opportunities galore for someone who wanted to work. Homes appreciated steadily building your wealth so you could leverage it to buy more houses for vacation or to rent for more money. .

Now a days housing is so expensive and blackrock owns most of them, bought from boomers who only cared about top dollar more than anything before going into a home where they took it all anyway. Kids entering the workforce now basically have no chance to make it on their own. Record numbers of renters, record prices. It's all leading to financial slavery of the future generations. Completely made possible by the greed of boomers that don't care about anything but themselves. You all changed the model of the American dream because you couldn't have enough always wanted more. Gen X to Z studies have shown what matters most is family and happiness over material possessions. Boomers only care about material possessions and how much $$$ they can accumulate. If they thought about anything other than themselves and been proactive to protect the American dream we might still have it as an option. It's the boomer generation that let everything happen that we see today and where America is at. They saw it happen as it was happening back in the 60's and 70's when it was small. Thousands of posts here can attest to it, they all talk about when the country turned towards the bad. It was long before Gen X to current were even born. Yet now they bitch because we are magically supposed to fix it after it's grown to the beast it is now with a fraction of the resources.

And they still could care less. The only thing they care about is themselves. They've said as much on this thread even and act like it's a justification. They're still doing nothing but watch it happen and blaming others, anyone but themselves.



“Cheaper cost of living?” “Rampant inflation?”
When is the last time you had a 17-18% mortgage? 😁

I bought my first house in 1979 and my first mortgage had an 22% interest rate. That house cost $64K. I sold it for $106K in 1988. The same house sold for $472K in 2016.

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Originally Posted by navlav8r
Originally Posted by Colorado1135
It's funny to hear all the boomers talk about paying in since the 60's and 70's. Then blaming the politicians since then for raiding it and then mock the workers now who are funding their SS checks.
That's our whole [bleep] point!

You didn't stop it the last 5 decades, you let it happen and didn't start complaining until recent years. And us workers that are paying in now so you can get it, guess what? We're not going to get anything when we get to retirement age because it won't exist or be so diluted it'll be $100 a month. With still rampant inflation.

You're right, none of you did anything to cause it directly. But you sure as hell didn't do anything to prevent it while you watched it happening. You had it easy, cheaper cost of living and opportunities galore for someone who wanted to work. Homes appreciated steadily building your wealth so you could leverage it to buy more houses for vacation or to rent for more money. .

Now a days housing is so expensive and blackrock owns most of them, bought from boomers who only cared about top dollar more than anything before going into a home where they took it all anyway. Kids entering the workforce now basically have no chance to make it on their own. Record numbers of renters, record prices. It's all leading to financial slavery of the future generations. Completely made possible by the greed of boomers that don't care about anything but themselves. You all changed the model of the American dream because you couldn't have enough always wanted more. Gen X to Z studies have shown what matters most is family and happiness over material possessions. Boomers only care about material possessions and how much $$$ they can accumulate. If they thought about anything other than themselves and been proactive to protect the American dream we might still have it as an option. It's the boomer generation that let everything happen that we see today and where America is at. They saw it happen as it was happening back in the 60's and 70's when it was small. Thousands of posts here can attest to it, they all talk about when the country turned towards the bad. It was long before Gen X to current were even born. Yet now they bitch because we are magically supposed to fix it after it's grown to the beast it is now with a fraction of the resources.

And they still could care less. The only thing they care about is themselves. They've said as much on this thread even and act like it's a justification. They're still doing nothing but watch it happen and blaming others, anyone but themselves.



“Cheaper cost of living?” “Rampant inflation?”
When is the last time you had a 17-18% mortgage? 😁


You just don't get it, ya dumb old boomer. Reality became a thing after gen X/Y/Z/Whatever was born and realized they were there filling up their diapers and receiving trophies for it. There is no history before the rise of X/Y/Z/Whatever, and you never saw a single event of significance that took place before "reality" began that matters. Stay in your lane.


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Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by navlav8r
Originally Posted by Colorado1135
It's funny to hear all the boomers talk about paying in since the 60's and 70's. Then blaming the politicians since then for raiding it and then mock the workers now who are funding their SS checks.
That's our whole [bleep] point!

You didn't stop it the last 5 decades, you let it happen and didn't start complaining until recent years. And us workers that are paying in now so you can get it, guess what? We're not going to get anything when we get to retirement age because it won't exist or be so diluted it'll be $100 a month. With still rampant inflation.

You're right, none of you did anything to cause it directly. But you sure as hell didn't do anything to prevent it while you watched it happening. You had it easy, cheaper cost of living and opportunities galore for someone who wanted to work. Homes appreciated steadily building your wealth so you could leverage it to buy more houses for vacation or to rent for more money. .

Now a days housing is so expensive and blackrock owns most of them, bought from boomers who only cared about top dollar more than anything before going into a home where they took it all anyway. Kids entering the workforce now basically have no chance to make it on their own. Record numbers of renters, record prices. It's all leading to financial slavery of the future generations. Completely made possible by the greed of boomers that don't care about anything but themselves. You all changed the model of the American dream because you couldn't have enough always wanted more. Gen X to Z studies have shown what matters most is family and happiness over material possessions. Boomers only care about material possessions and how much $$$ they can accumulate. If they thought about anything other than themselves and been proactive to protect the American dream we might still have it as an option. It's the boomer generation that let everything happen that we see today and where America is at. They saw it happen as it was happening back in the 60's and 70's when it was small. Thousands of posts here can attest to it, they all talk about when the country turned towards the bad. It was long before Gen X to current were even born. Yet now they bitch because we are magically supposed to fix it after it's grown to the beast it is now with a fraction of the resources.

And they still could care less. The only thing they care about is themselves. They've said as much on this thread even and act like it's a justification. They're still doing nothing but watch it happen and blaming others, anyone but themselves.



“Cheaper cost of living?” “Rampant inflation?”
When is the last time you had a 17-18% mortgage? 😁


You just don't get it, ya dumb old boomer. Reality became a thing after gen X/Y/Z/Whatever was born and realized they were there filling up their diapers and receiving trophies for it. There is no history before the rise of X/Y/Z/Whatever, and you never saw a single event of significance that took place before "reality" began that matters. Stay in your lane.



Even the wise ole boomers would rather have high interest than stupid inflation and high interest.


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There has to be a correction somewhere. Unfortunately, that can has been getting kicked down the road repeatedly since before I could ever vote and there's a machine running things that does not hear us.

There's going to be a correction somewhere, sometime (probably soon) and a lot of people are going to get absolutely F UCKED, I'm afraid. I think that includes EVERYONE here, right now.


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Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by navlav8r
Originally Posted by Colorado1135
It's funny to hear all the boomers talk about paying in since the 60's and 70's. Then blaming the politicians since then for raiding it and then mock the workers now who are funding their SS checks.
That's our whole [bleep] point!

You didn't stop it the last 5 decades, you let it happen and didn't start complaining until recent years. And us workers that are paying in now so you can get it, guess what? We're not going to get anything when we get to retirement age because it won't exist or be so diluted it'll be $100 a month. With still rampant inflation.

You're right, none of you did anything to cause it directly. But you sure as hell didn't do anything to prevent it while you watched it happening. You had it easy, cheaper cost of living and opportunities galore for someone who wanted to work. Homes appreciated steadily building your wealth so you could leverage it to buy more houses for vacation or to rent for more money. .

Now a days housing is so expensive and blackrock owns most of them, bought from boomers who only cared about top dollar more than anything before going into a home where they took it all anyway. Kids entering the workforce now basically have no chance to make it on their own. Record numbers of renters, record prices. It's all leading to financial slavery of the future generations. Completely made possible by the greed of boomers that don't care about anything but themselves. You all changed the model of the American dream because you couldn't have enough always wanted more. Gen X to Z studies have shown what matters most is family and happiness over material possessions. Boomers only care about material possessions and how much $$$ they can accumulate. If they thought about anything other than themselves and been proactive to protect the American dream we might still have it as an option. It's the boomer generation that let everything happen that we see today and where America is at. They saw it happen as it was happening back in the 60's and 70's when it was small. Thousands of posts here can attest to it, they all talk about when the country turned towards the bad. It was long before Gen X to current were even born. Yet now they bitch because we are magically supposed to fix it after it's grown to the beast it is now with a fraction of the resources.

And they still could care less. The only thing they care about is themselves. They've said as much on this thread even and act like it's a justification. They're still doing nothing but watch it happen and blaming others, anyone but themselves.



“Cheaper cost of living?” “Rampant inflation?”
When is the last time you had a 17-18% mortgage? 😁


You just don't get it, ya dumb old boomer. Reality became a thing after gen X/Y/Z/Whatever was born and realized they were there filling up their diapers and receiving trophies for it. There is no history before the rise of X/Y/Z/Whatever, and you never saw a single event of significance that took place before "reality" began that matters. Stay in your lane.

The problem with SSI, as I see it, is that FDR intended for it to be a safety net for people who either fell on hard times or never had much/made much to start with. It was never intended to be a person's only source of retirement income, that is what pensions and savings are for. But somewhere along the line a majority of people stopped saving for their retirement and thought that they could depend on SSI to cover all, or at least most, of their retirement expenses.

That said, a lot of my fellow boomers have abused easy credit to scratch their instant gratification itch, buying things that they wanted but didn't need enough to save enough to buy whatever it was outright.

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Originally Posted by RiverRider
There has to be a correction somewhere. Unfortunately, that can has been getting kicked down the road repeatedly since before I could ever vote and there's a machine running things that does not hear us.

There's going to be a correction somewhere, sometime (probably soon) and a lot of people are going to get absolutely F UCKED, I'm afraid. I think that includes EVERYONE here, right now.

Not to be flippant....but I have been hearing that for a long time.


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Does Sam offer a class on not being a whiny biotch from Montana?


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Originally Posted by EdM
Does Sam offer a class on not being a whiny biotch from Montana?
Yes but JC was the first one to fail that class.

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Originally Posted by EdM
Does Sam offer a class on not being a whiny biotch from Montana?

Phew....how many martinis tonight?


Sam frequently admits to whining....maybe you should teach the class.


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Does Sam offer a class on not being a whiny biotch from Montana?
Yes but JC was the first one to fail that class.

Oh sweetie....tell us all about how hard you had it.


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