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Those Savage 219s were well made rifles, especially for the money.

The patents on Contenders and Encores have likely lapsed. Maybe Ruger could just knock them off, as they have 1911s?

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This is nothing new, Marlin had their name on an H&R style shotgun years ago. Google Marlin Model 200.
They were made in 410, 20 and 12 gauge.


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Originally Posted by cab1958
This is nothing new, Marlin had their name on an H&R style shotgun years ago. Google Marlin Model 200.
They were made in 410, 20 and 12 gauge.


https://live.affiliatedauctions.com/lots/view/1-8E8PWT/marlin-model-200-12-gauge-single-shot-shotgun

Cool. Didn't know about that one

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TY for sharing that cab1958, I didnt know that

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Originally Posted by Stump Buster
A Mannlicher stock might be fitting for this, depending on design.


One can only dream!

A Mannlicher #1 would be awesome. Wont hold my breath on either.


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I would be delighted if they bought the patent for Savage model 219. - Sherwood


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Originally Posted by Sherwood
I would be delighted if they bought the patent for Savage model 219. - Sherwood
Unnecessary, as any applicable patents are very long expired. So, it’s open season, should someone actually want to reverse engineer an exact duplicate of the Savage 219. Now, who would be sufficiently motivated to do it, if anyone?


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I have several single shots at present including two older Contender carbines, a Hernry, a CVA Scout and a NEF Handi Rifle. I have owned a couple of #1'and a #3.
The Rugers were excellent. I also would love to see the 219 design resurrected. Even a remake of the Winchester 37 (original) in straight wall chamberings. Don't know about strength, tjough.
The older TCs are hard to open, the CVA is plastic ugly, and the NEF is clunky (and is a handful in 45-70).
I'm quite happy n with my Henry other than the excessive drop in the stock. I had to add a lace on riser to be able to use a scope.
Killed the first legal rifle shot deer on my land in a hundred years with the CVA Scout 44.
I can remember when CVA started out with poor Spanish made muzzle loader copies that were synonymous with the word "junk". They make some pretty good stuff these days.

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moosemike, That is great news. I look forward to seeing it. Brian

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I'd be tickled if Ruger/Marlin brought back a single shot rifle like this:

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They could even make some plain versions for hunting!

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I was waiting for that to come up! One can only dream, can't one?


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I was very happy to read of the possibility of an H&R style single shot rifle from Marlin!
I enjoy shooting my 45-70 Buffalo Classic and my son killed his first 7 turkeys with an H&R 20 gauge single shot.
I have a new great grandson that I would like to buy one for as he will probably grow up in a state that would make that type rifle, in 560 Buckhammer, ideal. And all that I have read about that cartridge impresses me.
However, I used the "Tell the CEO" feature on the Ruger website and received the response "Marlin has no plans for a single shot at this time, sorry."
I hope they change their minds before he needs it!
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A high wall rather than the low wall type shown. I had a Ballard someone had put a 45-70 barrel on and I never felt safe with even trapdoor loads. The one I built from a Numrich kit (stock fire end sand barrel for $48) was a different story.
I’d like to see a Rolling Block at a non-Pedersoli price.

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Originally Posted by 11point
However, I used the "Tell the CEO" feature on the Ruger website and received the response "Marlin has no plans for a single shot at this time, sorry."

Tom

Dammit, does that mean I can't believe everything I read on the internet?

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by 11point
However, I used the "Tell the CEO" feature on the Ruger website and received the response "Marlin has no plans for a single shot at this time, sorry."

Tom

Dammit, does that mean I can't believe everything I read on the internet?

You mean like Trijicon eye relief. Good Christ you are something.

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We could learn a lot from the Europeans

Like the Merkel …..a Kipplauf…….a nice light stalking rifle. 4 1/2-5 lbs.

But we won’t….

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Originally Posted by 257_X_50
We could learn a lot from the Europeans
Like the Merkel …..a Kipplauf…….a nice light stalking rifle. 4 1/2-5 lbs.
But we won’t….

Depends on who you mean by “we.”

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Originally Posted by Exchipy
Originally Posted by 257_X_50
We could learn a lot from the Europeans
Like the Merkel …..a Kipplauf…….a nice light stalking rifle. 4 1/2-5 lbs.
But we won’t….

Depends on who you mean by “we.”

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I stand corrected
Quite handsome
Are they still being produced?

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Originally Posted by 257_X_50
I stand corrected
Quite handsome
Are they still being produced?

Unfortunately, they are not. It seems there’s insufficient financial incentive to resurrect their production in the U.S., even though German made Kipplaufs are so very expensive here. Though it might at first appear easy to reverse engineer the discontinued rifles, not enough of them could be sold at the price level needed to recover the necessary development costs (hey, it’s a tough business). As your original post suggested, there’s simply not enough popular demand for them. Too bad.


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Originally Posted by Papag
A high wall rather than the low wall type shown. I had a Ballard someone had put a 45-70 barrel on and I never felt safe with even trapdoor loads. The one I built from a Numrich kit (stock fire end sand barrel for $48) was a different story.
I’d like to see a Rolling Block at a non-Pedersoli price.

Depends on which Ballard action it is. A forged receiver, versus a cast receiver - no problem. They were offered in thunderous black powder chamberings back in the day and are viable today - use as such for 130 years and counting is testimony to that. (My .40-65 is built on a Ballard Pacific action.) If a guy has it in his head to shoot mega loads he's well advised to utilize a modern action, but standard (sane) loads are perfectly ok in a forged Ballard action. Even the Trapdoor has strength in excess of what's been ballyhoo'ed in the press and across gunshop countertops for the last 100 years.


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