|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,813 Likes: 5
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,813 Likes: 5 |
OK, I guess we can agree that Hitler was no worse than Tamerlane or maybe Genghis Khan so he was an OK guy. I suspect when everyone who was alive then is dead, and one group of people no longer wants to milk the victimhood teat above all other groups, Hitler will be looked at with the same detachment by history all those other guys. Whatever happened back then, I didn’t do it, I refuse to feel guilty about, nor do I feel the need to try and compare every modern situation to it and look for lessons in it. About eight to ten times more non Jews died in that war than Jews did. So why do we insist on making it all about them? Answer that.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,135 Likes: 8
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,135 Likes: 8 |
OK, I guess we can agree that Hitler was no worse than Tamerlane or maybe Genghis Khan so he was an OK guy. I suspect when everyone who was alive then is dead, and one group of people no longer wants to milk the victimhood teat above all other groups, Hitler will be looked at with the same detachment by history all those other guys. Whatever happened back then, I didn’t do it, I refuse to feel guilty about, nor do I feel the need to try and compare every modern situation to it and look for lessons in it. About eight to ten times more non Jews died in that war than Jews did. So why do we insist on making it all about them? Answer that. Well now, it might be that Jews were a special target, not just collateral damage. It might be that Jews are not much over 1% of the population of the world but get singled out most likely due to envy over their high level of achievement and intelligence. It most of all might have to do with the percentage of their population killed in the war without regard to sex, age, or any other condition. All that was required was to be a Jew. Sure, a lot of people died in a most savage decade but percentage wise the Jews took the worst of it.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 44,539 Likes: 11
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 44,539 Likes: 11 |
So, all of the records that the SS kept and were captured by the western allies were fake? Let's see them. You’re the one making outlandish claims. The burden of proof is on you. They murdered a LOT of people without gas. I guess you've never seen the German locals paraded past and forced to look at stacks and stacks of dead and disfigured bodies. The documentary I saw the other night had a man's head submerged in a plastic case full of liquid sawed perfectly in half down the middle of his head. One eye and half his nose peering eerily from the one side. But I didn't check to see if he was gassed, shot or starved to death. You Holocaust deniers really are a bunch of kooks. Are you confused? My post was addressed to TRH to provide evidence of his claims. What outlandish claims did I make? Relax. It's directed at TRH. Including your post was only to add context Of the documentary I saw.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 44,539 Likes: 11
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 44,539 Likes: 11 |
So, all of the records that the SS kept and were captured by the western allies were fake? Let's see them. You’re the one making outlandish claims. The burden of proof is on you. They murdered a LOT of people without gas. I guess you've never seen the German locals paraded past and forced to look at stacks and stacks of dead and disfigured bodies. The documentary I saw the other night had a man's head submerged in a plastic case full of liquid sawed perfectly in half down the middle of his head. One eye and half his nose peering eerily from the one side. But I didn't check to see if he was gassed, shot or starved to death. You Holocaust deniers really are a bunch of kooks. Are you confused? My post was addressed to TRH to provide evidence of his claims. What outlandish claims did I make? He's not so good at interneting. I read his post as directed to TRH but I am good a diciphering gibberish. I don't ever post gibberish, you stupid fugk. I've explained why I included his post, genius.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,813 Likes: 5
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,813 Likes: 5 |
OK, I guess we can agree that Hitler was no worse than Tamerlane or maybe Genghis Khan so he was an OK guy. I suspect when everyone who was alive then is dead, and one group of people no longer wants to milk the victimhood teat above all other groups, Hitler will be looked at with the same detachment by history all those other guys. Whatever happened back then, I didn’t do it, I refuse to feel guilty about, nor do I feel the need to try and compare every modern situation to it and look for lessons in it. About eight to ten times more non Jews died in that war than Jews did. So why do we insist on making it all about them? Answer that. Well now, it might be that Jews were a special target, not just collateral damage. It might be that Jews are not much over 1% of the population of the world but get singled out most likely due to envy over their high level of achievement and intelligence. It most of all might have to do with the percentage of their population killed in the war without regard to sex, age, or any other condition. All that was required was to be a Jew. Sure, a lot of people died in a most savage decade but percentage wise the Jews took the worst of it. That’s not even true. By percentage more Gypsies died than Jews.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,879 Likes: 5
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,879 Likes: 5 |
About eight to ten times more non Jews died in that war than Jews did. So why do we insist on making it all about them? Answer that. Total deaths attributed to WW2 in The Netherlands was 2.36% of the population. Three quarters of the Dutch Jewish population died in WW2. Any other questions?
Sic Semper Tyrannis
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 26,590 Likes: 17
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 26,590 Likes: 17 |
Are them goddam Soviet planes still in the sky? Sheesh.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,592 Likes: 8
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,592 Likes: 8 |
Al Gore made a documentary.
It won more awards than the ones bout the hoaxocaust.
But then it's easy ta convince people that ya can show half a head and will therefore conclude six mil died.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,813 Likes: 5
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,813 Likes: 5 |
About eight to ten times more non Jews died in that war than Jews did. So why do we insist on making it all about them? Answer that. Total deaths attributed to WW2 in The Netherlands was 2.36% of the population. Three quarters of the Dutch Jewish population died in WW2. Any other questions? Mainly because the Dutch were extra anxious to get rid of their Jews and not too anxious to fight the Germans.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,879 Likes: 5
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 12,879 Likes: 5 |
About eight to ten times more non Jews died in that war than Jews did. So why do we insist on making it all about them? Answer that. Total deaths attributed to WW2 in The Netherlands was 2.36% of the population. Three quarters of the Dutch Jewish population died in WW2. Any other questions? Mainly because the Dutch were extra anxious to get rid of their Jews and not too anxious to fight the Germans. That's what you're going with? Final answer?
Sic Semper Tyrannis
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,592 Likes: 8
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 12,592 Likes: 8 |
Postin amorphous statistics ta justify a result went out with bolo-19.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 67,298 Likes: 47
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 67,298 Likes: 47 |
Are them goddam Soviet planes still in the sky? Sheesh. How DARE you question a 79 yr old member with 20 year membership pen No links posted, etc
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,813 Likes: 5
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,813 Likes: 5 |
About eight to ten times more non Jews died in that war than Jews did. So why do we insist on making it all about them? Answer that. Total deaths attributed to WW2 in The Netherlands was 2.36% of the population. Three quarters of the Dutch Jewish population died in WW2. Any other questions? Mainly because the Dutch were extra anxious to get rid of their Jews and not too anxious to fight the Germans. That's what you're going with? Final answer? Sure, why not? Got to be some reason why Dutch Jews were eliminated at a much higher percentage than they were in Belgium and France, or anywhere else in Europe for that matter.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 44,539 Likes: 11
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 44,539 Likes: 11 |
Are them goddam Soviet planes still in the sky? Sheesh. I know. Right? Talk about the scope creep..
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,135 Likes: 8
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,135 Likes: 8 |
Sure, a lot of people died in a most savage decade but percentage wise the Jews took the worst of it. That’s not even true. By percentage more Gypsies died than Jews. What percentage of non combatant Gypsies died and what percentage of noncombatant Jews died out of their respective populations. I admit I don't have the breakdown by ethnicity but it is generally conceded that 1/2 or more of continental European Jews did not survive the war By the way, lets don't consider the Jews killed in the Warsaw uprising as combatant Jews please. And JoeBob, do you approve of lethal elimination of Jews?
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 131,834 Likes: 32
Campfire Sage
|
Campfire Sage
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 131,834 Likes: 32 |
Are them goddam Soviet planes still in the sky? Sheesh. I know. Right? Talk about the scope creep.. There is no Soviet Union anymore.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,001 Likes: 18
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,001 Likes: 18 |
Are them goddam Soviet planes still in the sky? Sheesh. I know. Right? Talk about the scope creep.. There is no Soviet Union anymore. Apparently no holocaust either.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,211 Likes: 3
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 28,211 Likes: 3 |
Are them goddam Soviet planes still in the sky? Sheesh. I know. Right? Talk about the scope creep.. There is no Soviet Union anymore. And the Germans didn’t kill some ethnicity severely? You’re being questioned for that ,brother.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 131,834 Likes: 32
Campfire Sage
|
Campfire Sage
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 131,834 Likes: 32 |
Sure, a lot of people died in a most savage decade but percentage wise the Jews took the worst of it. That’s not even true. By percentage more Gypsies died than Jews. What percentage of noncombatant Jews died out of their respective populations. The International Red Cross, who had access to the camps throughout the war, right after the war went to great lengths to calculate an accurate figure for that, so you are in luck. They figured about 271,000 total deaths in the camps (mostly during the last months of the war, and mostly from typhus), of which about half were Jewish. They also noted that, despite many visits to the camps during their operation, they witnessed no evidence of a mass murder program of any sort, and no gas chambers. In fact, they inspected the shower facilities in every camp to make sure they functioned correctly, so that inmates could regularly bathe themselves. No fake showers were found.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,135 Likes: 8
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 13,135 Likes: 8 |
Sure, a lot of people died in a most savage decade but percentage wise the Jews took the worst of it. That’s not even true. By percentage more Gypsies died than Jews. What percentage of noncombatant Jews died out of their respective populations. The International Red Cross, who had access to the camps throughout the war, right after the war went to great lengths to calculate an accurate figure for that, so you are in luck. They figured about 271,000 total deaths in the camps (mostly during the last months of the war, and mostly from typhus), of which about half were Jewish. They also note that, despite many visits to the camps, they saw no evidence of a mass murder program of any sort, and no gas chambers. Well, I am relieved to hear that.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
|
|
|
|
625 members (1badf350, 160user, 10gaugeman, 16gage, 10ring1, 64 invisible),
2,407
guests, and
1,259
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,059
Posts18,501,193
Members73,987
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|