Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Time to 1846 Mexico again

I have said for years, that Mexico is our biggest National threat, our most existential enemy country. Time to just declare war.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mexican-president-says-flow-migrants-continue-unless-us-meets-demands

Operation colonization. Nothing can be done until the cartels are neutralized, and we all know that’s not going to happen.

I know something that would stop the flow of illegals....napalm on Mexico City.

Time to create our own Gaza Strip- - - - -a 50 mile wide no man's land beginning at the wetback border. Overlapping fields of fire with quad 50's and regular reconnaisance patrols with Warthogs.

Obrador getting ballsy. Can't wait to see how that works with Trump.

Not allowing US dollars to be sent south would too. ITAR that crap - no more Western Union money grams to El Salvador, Mexico etc.

Fixed it for you. Warthogs are just not the right tool for that mission.

I like that, that practical without dropping bombs...and gets the message across.

Militarize the border, heavily. Then start rounding up in-country illegals and putting them back.

they could start with taxing remittances at rates up to 50%. Next just round up 50 thousand a week and push them back across the border. Then actually invade Mexico with a couple hundred thousand troops with tanks and artillery. As was mentioned, make a 50 mile deep zone and dare anyone to step across.

Seems like Pedro is getting a little lippy ........

Or we could just shut down the border and tell him to pound sand.

Annex Mexico, then Canada (for balance). Which would give us a tiny southern border to secure. Anything that comes by sea can get sunk.

Turn the place into glass. Maybe the fùckers will stop messing up the local demographic.
Ever notice that anytime a demographic changes that it's never for the better?

Who’s going to do it? Biden won’t. When Trump gets in office Mexico will do an about face..

If Trump defeats the "steal" and doesn't get aced by the Swamp, AMLO will be singing a totally different tune by this time next year...

They push abortion on American women and import breeders from the world's poor and uneducated. Great plan.

Bidumb will give them whatever they want, way before the election. The problems we have had with Mexico, the U.S. should just take over Mexico. Hey, we've already paid for the damn place, right?

Then they all become citizens. Like Puerto Ricans. Could come and go as they please.

And vote.

And THAT, of course is the DemoRat’s Plan.
Well That, and turning America into a 3rd World Commie Schitthole. 😡

Then they won’t have to bother with stealing another Election.

Puff, the Magic Dragon.

It's not hard.


Close the border.
Stop transfers of cash as stated.

$5k fines for every illegal employed.
Fines double for a second offense, triple for a third.

Fines equal to six months rent for renting to illegals.
An extra month's rent for every one present.
Fines double with a second offense.
Triple with a third, quadruple...

One year for smuggling drugs. Any amount.
An additional year per $10k in street value.
To be served in CCC type camps, engaged in CCC type work.
Rural or urban.
Escapees will have sentences doubled if caught in America,
transfered to hard labor camps.

I'm fair, pay them $100/month.
Do not allow the commissary price gouging common in civilian prisons.(something that needs addressed. We imprison criminals, then steal from them)

Sounds like acts of war to me.

Nuke’m til they glow.

Yep, and it doesn't matter if they're Mexican, they go back to south of the militarized border, Haitians, Africans, Arabs, Chinese, what have you. Mexico intentionally let them all cross their nation to get here (helped them, in fact), so they can take care of them when we return them.

Mexico needs a good ass kicking. Take all their assets, blast Cartels to hell and back along with every crooked government official. Which is more than likely all of them. Do a full blown Putin on them!

All we have to do is simply enforce our own laws.

Yep.

Yep. Or like Digital Dan suggested. Turn it into a giant glass beaded beach for the Gulf of Mexico.
It’s a 3rd world Schitthole that’s never gonna get any better.

If we would put half the sanctions and financial penalties on Mexico that we’ve put on Russia they would put a stop to their country being used as a staging ground for the invasion of our country. I tend to believe our government is corrupted by the same money that is corrupting Mexico

Money transfer is THE business around here.
One of the last banks I was with went to pretty
much all border jumper business with the most
of it being money transfer.
Closed up their expensively built drive through
and all the signage is no longer en engleesh.

All these supposedly charitable groups here
are just exploiting the border jumpers.
Banks, tote-the-note car lots, housing, medical,
grocery stores, "immigration lawyers "
fly-by-night insurance agencies, so-called
paint and body shops, etc. etc.

Ted Curse, Little Marco , Ms. Lindsay they know the Plan ..

And you'd be right.

That will drive the farmers, meat packers, roofers, builders out of business.

Yep. This is all it would take. Trump threatened it and they complied.

Or they'd stop hiring them. More likely the latter.

The border is open because the swamp wants it open. I'm not opposed to some aid being given if they'll stay in their own countries. It's much cheaper then the $4000 plus they are each getting here plus free plane rides and bus rides.

The money we've spent in our own invasion would go much further in those other countries if you could get it to the actual people instead of the one leader in each of the corrupt s hole countries. Biden probably cut all aid to those countries to make things worse to encourage more illegals invading our country.

Our chamber of commerce doesn't want a guest worker program because legitimized workers can have legitimate complaints. The dems don't want a program because they want chaos and crime and want them to vote. If they could lose their guest worker status for crime or illegal voting they're less likely to commit the crimes the dems are hoping for.

Bb

All we’re doing to do to Mexico is give then free stuff. White guilt and political correctness rules the day. Thus us their country until the Chinese take it from them.

I guarantee you. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico and at one time, gf and I were considering buying or building a house there. Now, no way. For many reasons.

I don't think a lot of people in the US realize just how powerful the cartels have gotten. To think they don't control the govt all the way up to Obrador is fantasy.

But, Mexico still depends heavily on the US. Just stopping money going back to Mexico from the US would crush them.

To put it in the words of a very pretty, very bright Mexican lady I know, " When the US gets a cold, Mexico sneezes".

Bb, I really don't think the average American understands the level of evil living and thriving at the top branches of our government.

I never used to think that could be possible in our country.

You are correct, cv540. I was beginning to wonder when someone would bring that up. So many people forget the multitude of strategies Trump used in foreign policy that kept our country on top.

This.

C130s to the southern most suitable airfield in Mexico.
Put some in the countries letting foreigners fly in without visas.

Africa, Arab, China?

It's not possible, my conscience wouldn't allow it for real...
In theory?
Fly them 400 miles offshore in the direction of their homes...
Give them a good headscarf swimming home.

More practically.
Years of labor and a flight home.



It's crazy as hell that good law abiding Americans won't go to Mexico and other places to recreate and dump money, out of fear of violence or arrest.

Meanwhile people of enemy countries come here illegally,
Often to be parasites on our society,
with no fear or worries once they get here.
Their biggest risks are the trip.

It's worse than that, as General Flynn observed: "The equivolent of 10 infantry divisions of military-aged Chinese men (not counting other nationalities) crossed illegally into America under the auspices of the Biden Administration."

You wont get a chance. Trump wont be permitted to be the POTUS again. It will just not happen, BAM from the deep swamp.

Its funny listening to some comments about mexico. Ive been in Mexico 3 weeks now another 1.5 to go. Do I like whats going on at the border HELL NO!
To think the cartels DOJ. CIA. FBI, Neocons, big pharma, etc) don't control all the way up to the U.S president is a fantasy.
Its no different than the U.S, big city. Tourist bullshit, people you dont fugg with no matter U.S or mexico.
I lived and worked in Saudi Arabia for 2 years give that a spin.

How many homeless (drug addict) camps. People shooting up on the corners, O.D on the street, handing out needles?
Not one since I've been here or the last 4 years I've been coming and staying.

Bunch of you guys act like mexico is our problem, its straight to the white house is our problem.
This thread should have said its time to 1776 the U.S

Much like all of the US isn't the same place to place - same could be said for Mexico.

I took a trip there last year this time. Walked across the border at Otay Mesa, took a ride through Tijuana to Rosarito - worked the day and came back. Walked back over to the US.

What I saw there - I'd never seen in San Fran, Denver, San Antonio, Houston, Chicago, Austin, Dallas or Milwaukee (other large places that are generally considered to be or have crap holes). We rode around in an armored van to get where we needed to be. Absolutely NEVER ever felt I needed it in the states - the Mexicans who live there, felt it was necessary as did the company I was working with.

Isn't about that tho - more about there most definitely IS that section of Mexico that is the Sicario movie and it outnumbers what I've seen traveling the US by a good margin - by volume.

The concern over Mexico isn't about how Mexico is on their side of the fence but their refusal to keep it there and unwillingness to understand that American sovereignty has standing. If we want to send back what you're throwing over the line, we can and will. (if we had the guts to do so)

That, too.

I gotta defend Mexico just a little here.

On the Cartel issue, we created them.
Just like Walmart and Amazon
America created a market, they recognized and filled it.
Now they have found a market that they can fill using existing assets. That’s just good American capitalism at work.

10 infantry divisions!

The War On Drugs created the cartels.

We call them gangs our gov and media calls them cartels because its more scary. No fugging different

Teal, it's not if WE had guts, it's if THEY had the guts. We all know who THEY are. And as we all know, it's totally by their evil design.

That's antisemitic, dude.

I Need a job,this one looks like job security,and fun too!

"Send Latin American countries $20 billion in aid a year"

In other words, send the cartels $20 billion a year as a bribe not to expose the Biden crime families hand in all this.

You know your leadership is weak when Mexico starts making demands of the USA...

Pathetic.

The only problem is our insane policy vis a vis birthright citizenship. That's suicidal. It's not in the Constitution, either, as some stupidly assert.

To produce a citizen of the US by birth requires that one be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States, which disqualifies illegal aliens, since they are 1) subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign country (the one of which they are rightfully citizens), and 2) their presence in our country is in defiance of United States jurisdiction.

But, because of our insane policy of recognizing the birthright citizenship of the offspring of aliens illegally present here, once they are here and drop a baby, that's it.

Anchor babies aren't a thing tho if they're not here to begin with. Chicken/egg thing.

The cartels are much more than just gangs.
They’ve got the money, they’ve got the weapons.
If things ever go south politically in this country, they would fill a void that would give .gov a run for their money.

How many millions have they dropped while here under Biden?

They also have highly sophisticated counter intel capabilities that are FAR beyond bribing a local cop.

Don't know - that's not my point. My point is if we treated the border like what it is - anchor baby as a word doesn't even exist.

Damage done, unless we change course on the birthright citizenship BS, and make it retroactive, status quo ante the stolen Biden regime.

Alex Jones just claimed that the average illegal alien during the Biden regime has received over $100,000 in spending money, not counting free services.

You guys wouldn't want your retirements and investments to suffer would you???


War? Hahaha!

The demand for drugs created the war on drugs

Yep. Same with Ukraine. They’ve got the “goods” in the Biden Crime Family.

Hahaha yeah our gangs have no money and guns do they, how many deaths a day are in Chicago? Shootings?
Some of you just stay scared of the boogeyman man while I go to mexico for a nice months vacation with family members and my 83 year old mother. Less gringos more for me haha.

It's not like someone wouldn't come in and try to meat the demand if Mexico got out of the business.

Spot on Jim, untill the drug demand slows way down there will always be dealers, cartel gangs whatever you wanna call them We just want to hand them clean needles.

Yep, that's my point.

Mexico is the supplier meeting our demand.
No demand, no cartels.
Or other organizations.

Except if drug running went away the existing organizations will expand their
side businesses.


I heard a Sunday School lesson that started with,
"What would you say is the most immoral law we ever passed?"

"ABORTION!!!"

"Not in my opinion. I think it was prohibition."

He went on to explain that prohibition created the illegal demand for alcohol
that brought us the Mob, as we know it.

Along with other good points that don't matter here.

Can't do much about demand. Government getting out of the business of regulating what adults freely choose to put in their bodies, though, is something that can easily be accomplished, which would pull the rug right out from under the drug cartels.

Anyone commits a crime while drugged, throw them in prison.

We have created the high demand through social programs.
We could work backwards, but just imagine!🤬🤬🤬🤬

How come it seems one can take a perfect functioning ship,
and in seconds with one change, put it on a path of destruction that
is almost impossible to right. Yet it's almost never easy to take something bad and get it right?

Until they jack you up. Haha.

How many get Jacked up in the U.S everyday?

That right there sums up Mexico.
Some of you guys need to get out and see the real world and turn of the media you lam bast everyday about Trump but turn sound and believe all the other [bleep].
No place is perfect and our border sure as Hell isnt.
If there needs to be a reset its right here in the good ole U.S.
Blame all our problems on other country for fugg sake wake up look in the mirror.
How many more country's we need to invade to impose our neo con will, what country we have invaded in the last 60 years has it done us any good? Name 1
I've been to several different countrys and several places in Mexico not once have I been "scared" uneasy once and it wasn't in mexico

I wonder if some of these country's leaders are intentionally trying to make biden look bad. seems the opposite of they'd want to do to keep Trump out of office.

My GGGrandaddy stood up when called on, went down and contributed in the Battle of Cerro Gordo. It's past time to pay another visit.

Then what? How did Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan work out for US.
Are they all Mexicans coming across the border? Where there Chinese. Venezuelans, hondurans, middle eastern coming across when your GG day went to Mexico?
I guess we just invade them all.

Changed my mind 100%.
This summer the Wife and I are gonna load up the car and tour Mexico.
I always thought it seemed like a fun, fascinating, inexpensive road trip,
but was apprehensive about not knowing the language or what is safe.
This article tells me the people are smarter and better educated than
the two of us. (Certainly me.) If our car breaks, it will be easier to find
a technical mechanic than here in Hicksville. And we will be safe.
I'll just ask where the cartels are and avoid them.

The only problem will be us.
Being Right Leaning Conservatives, our innate racism may ruin the trip.
Seeing as how we will be constant agitated being around people who
are browner than us.








Not a doubt the article has much truth.
He glosses over everything wrong with Mexico. He has money and lives
in a better part of a better city. Within those parameters one can live very
well anywhere. Even better in a modern city in a Third World Craphole.
There money buys them more labor than in Miami.
The exact reason so many Americans retire South of The Border.
No matter your economic state, places with broke ass people elevate you.

What a dumbass.

If a pipe breaks in your house,
do you even think about the well?

I sure as hell don't.
I shut the closest valve.



If you can't understand that?
Where they start is of no concern if we stop them from getting here.

While my GGGrandaddy was man enough to take a train as far as prescribed for the mission, then ride horseback and/or in a wagon for hundreds of miles all while leaving his family behind in a time when the most advanced weapons were loaded from the muzzle and he knew that he was more likely to die in battle than return.......this brings me to one question for you Dillonbuck. What the [bleep] have you done to stop ANY border crossing invaders at any point in your life? Big man behind the keyboard but how about some hands on in a manner that helps stem the flow?

So go live in Mexico, Tomb Raider.

Stop jackin your operator jaw.

Smelled an America hater at "White Nationalists". And, he proved it multiple times, including his closing.

His opinion writing and google-fu stat collecting are good.

And BTW, whatchagonna do if/when SHTF and the world goes south? I'll bet it's: try to run back to the US. The dude is there for the low cost of living and that's it. Owns no patriotism, or nationalism, as he so blithely describes.

Please stay in Mexico.


Tale of Two People

Let me add this:

One of my best friends in the world is a Mexican guy from Guadalajara. He came here legally for a better life decades ago. Went to DeVry school, got his degree and landed a job working with satellites. Worked his ass off and worked his way up. Spanish is perfect. English is perfect. We worked together as DBA's on some pretty high end projects for an international companies. He's directing satellites now. Got his citizenship and married a nice American lady many years ago. They had a son. Wife has had bad diabetes for a long time. He could retire, but keeps working to make sure she gets the right health care she needs. Put his son through college and just threw a big wedding for him and his sweetheart. All on his dime. Owns a nice big Colonial style house in Virginia with big columns in front. He likes that stuff. Not for me, but Hey, that's what he likes and he worked hard for it. Doesn't wear his politics on his sleeve, but I've never known a more stand-up guy. (Yeah, not in biden's camp). He's 10 times more American than Fred Reed will ever be. And if I had a choice for who was watching my back, guess who I'd pick.

There’s thousands of good solid folks, many thousands down there. But “we” would rather send billions of extorted funds to a gay Jew in the ukraine than support real change on our own continent. If we spent a fraction of what we’ve wasted on Cuckraine on Mexico we as a nation would be exponentially further ahead.

And the article is monkeyshït.

WOW! I can’t believe they actually misspelled “Dragoons"! And on a headstone no less!

Fred writes opinion pieces. I don't know what his true thoughts are, just his articles. His archives are worth perusal. He's been at it for a while. Put on a Marine uniform and went to Vietnam. Got a little cynical from the experience regarding government and the brass. His wife was or is a teacher. Her job landed him there.
I've never been more than a few miles from the border, so can't tell someone who has that they're wrong.
The exchange of ideas and information is a good thing. Ad Hominem attacks are a sign of weakness.