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I wonder how much it costs Leupold to return counterfeits. Would they be justified in destroying them? Or should they require a fee to return them?
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It should not cost Leupold to send back counterfeits.
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It should not cost Leupold to send back counterfeits. I've never sent them anything for any reason. When you send stuff in for repair is there a charge for return shipping? Do they notify you before returning anything?
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It should not cost Leupold to send back counterfeits. I've never sent them anything for any reason. When you send stuff in for repair is there a charge for return shipping? Do they notify you before returning anything? Leupold does not charge shipping to return items in for repair or replacement if repairs can not be made. They do notify you about repairs or replacements. You only pay the shipping to ship to Leupold.
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He is not a customer, he is a dealer. He wanted to make some quick easy cash. He had them marked up over double what we traded for. I have offered several times to trade back no matter how it's worded. I found out he lied about the whole transaction at the gun show too. You guys can put any slant on it you want but he approached me to make the deal and I agreed to his terms and since he is not happy I have offered several times now to trade back. I will return the scopes to the wife and let her do as she wants with them. Any other issues you guys have state them now, let's settle them and move on. Well since you asked for us to state any other issues now, It is my opinion you are done on this board and have no chance to salvage your reputation. Bye.
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brad6ppc, after reading through all this you're a mfk'ing thief in my opinion.
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I'm not selling any more if his stuff, I will take it back and they will have to deal with it.. OK, my question to you, Brad, is this: You offered to help a "veteran with dementia" sell stuff he could no longer use. But because of what transpired with the scopes, you are now crawfishing on that and not going to help the family. Why would you back out on your offer to help a veteran? I just don't understand how that has anything to do with what transpired between you and the OP at the gun show. Our veterans have been crapped on enough already. Maybe another forum member in that area of MN could step in and help him out since you no longer will do so.
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Good point Bobby! Kinda sorta along the same line of thought I had.
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I apologize for changing gears in this thread. I don’t wish to take part in the above mentioned story, but I have a question pertaining to fakes:
What models in the Leupold lineup have been verified as fakes? VX models, mark models, HD’s etc. I would like to be better educated on the matter. Thanks
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Maybe us sellers and buyers could utilize a Leupold company confirmation # tagged with the seller to confirm it’s company backed production. Just a thought
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I think it is mostly VX models. Probably other newer models too.
I have never seen a counterfeit Vari-x model. Same with gloss scopes.
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I think it is mostly VX models. Probably other newer models too.
I have never seen a counterfeit Vari-x model. Same with gloss scopes. Typically VX and Mark 4s - I've seen both.
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What models in the Leupold lineup have been verified as fakes? VX models, mark models, HD’s etc. I would like to be better educated on the matter. Thanks
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Maybe us sellers and buyers could utilize a Leupold company confirmation # tagged with the seller to confirm it’s company backed production. Just a thought A number that could be faked?? No thanks, I'll call Leupold myself.
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While they are getting more sophisticated with making the cheap clones, it's still pretty easy to tell real from fake. If you familiarize yourself with the product line, there's no need to call Leupold or Zeiss or whoever to confirm. A little diligence is all it takes.
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Someone paid $746 for this used scope on gunbroker. I guess AO, red-green illumination, fonts that Zeiss never used along with numerous other red flags weren't enough to tip off the buyer. The seller clearly called it a Zeiss. The Leupold clones posted at the beginning of this thread are much more convincing than the Zeiss clones.
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Maybe us sellers and buyers could utilize a Leupold company confirmation # tagged with the seller to confirm it’s company backed production. Just a thought A number that could be faked?? No thanks, I'll call Leupold myself. I completely agree. I was just creating conversation in the hopes that something could be created and streamlined to curb these issues going forward.
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Someone paid $746 for this used scope on gunbroker. I guess AO, red-green illumination, fonts that Zeiss never used along with numerous other red flags weren't enough to tip off the buyer. The seller clearly called it a Zeiss. How does GB feel about their platform being used to facilitate the sale of counterfeit items? Do they require sellers to delete such listings? I supposed that I could read their TOS. If you notify a seller directly it might be like eBay where the seller may or may not take it down.
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Maybe us sellers and buyers could utilize a Leupold company confirmation # tagged with the seller to confirm it’s company backed production. Just a thought A number that could be faked?? No thanks, I'll call Leupold myself. As much as I hate to say it, there will probably come a day where calling Leupold isn't really going to help. If you sit back and think about it, you can get around that as well. There are plenty of pics floating around of legit scopes of every model showing the serial #'s.
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Maybe us sellers and buyers could utilize a Leupold company confirmation # tagged with the seller to confirm it’s company backed production. Just a thought A number that could be faked?? No thanks, I'll call Leupold myself. As much as I hate to say it, there will probably come a day where calling Leupold isn't really going to help. If you sit back and think about it, you can get around that as well. There are plenty of pics floating around of legit scopes of every model showing the serial #'s. I'll not discount that as a possibility but Leupold CS has provided enough other details about the scopes I've inquired about to satisfy my curiosity of geniuneness.
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