Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Is it the breed or bad owners? It’s the BREED!

Maybe I didn't explain well. My dog's collar acts like an electronic fence. It just uses GPS. Not an ungrounded wire. I know where to let him roam and where not to.

Those gps collars sound like a good deal?

They work. I leave a perrty big buffer by the road because I don't trust it to be perfectly accurate. But so far, so good. Once they know the boundary, they don't push the limit.

The_Real_Hawkeye,

I'm glad your 70 lb Old English Bulldog had what it takes to stop the advance of the Pitbull and German Shepherd.

Can you imagine if you were walking by with your young daughter or granddaughter. A young child does not have what it takes to stop an aggressive attack. A loose pitbull and a child in the same vicinity has the potential for a catastrophic outcome.




This or worse. This poor little girl will have to live with the horror of that attack every time she looks in the mirror.

I’ve got a cousin that has a Blue Heeler that is very aggressive. We were talking today at a family function about how many people have been bitten by that dog.

I see pitbulls as a sociopaths dog. Usually some wanna be tough guy owns one because as a sociopath he thinks everything is about intimidation. I love most all dogs but few things upset me more then when a neighbor had 2 pit bulls that used to run free through our neighborhood.

I caught a coyote once trying to lure our dog out of the yard. I put a 75g amax through its high lungs at about 300 yards with my 223 AI. That neighbors pit bulls heard the shot and came running like bird dogs. Somehow the coyote got back on its feet despite being able to see daylight through the hole behind its shoulders.

Those pit bulls saw and immediately ran and tore it to shreds. After witnessing that I regretted not cracking off a few more rounds and putting the pits down too. A few days latter our other neighbor told us those Pitts had attacked her while jogging and drew blood before someone stopped to help. I told her I wished she would have told me that last week.

Luckily the old lady with the pits moved later that month. Before she moved I told her I thought her dogs were dangerous and I was glad to see them go. She said I know they are dangerous that's why I have them. She said she likes the fact that they are intimidating because people leave her alone. I said you better just hope they don't turn on you. She owned and developed our neighborhood and sold myself and our neighbors all pit bulls.

After she moved everyone started talking about how she lied to them and cheated them on their deals. She also told us that she wasn't going to allow homes under 4000 ft in the neighborhood and then changed it to 3200 right after we built a 5200' home with a 4 car. After hearing all the other neighbors story's I thought maybe that old lady was a sociopath. It would seem to fit with the pitbulls.

I recently met a dog rescue lady that rescued pitbulls and said one should never be put down. She was a big time leftist and asked why I had wire haired pointing griffons. I told her because I wanted bird hunting dogs that my kids weren't allergic too. She made some snide comments about hunters and gun owners. I then told her I couldn't believe she advocated Pitt bulls but was against gun ownership.

She then said guns kill more people than pittbulls. I said no, no gun has ever killed anyone on its own. Guns don't have brains and don't just suddenly decide on their own to tear the face off of a 3 year old girl. I told her that Pitt bulls are the reason I bought my wife an 38 special to carry while walking our bird dogs.

Bb

It’s confused old boomer idiots like you who shouldn’t own firearms or dogs. I wouldn’t let my bird dogs 500 miles from your coon ass Trailer park single wide. Lol

Where do professional burglars get their degrees? Lol

The best protection is any dog breed that barks and brings attention. Burglars don’t analyze a home owners’ dog breed background before determining whether they rob a house. This is just silly lol


Why do insurance companies refuse to write policies for dangerous breeds??

You quite obviously have some physiological complex, maybe you were picked on when you were a tike. Who knows, you should seek help

It’s been a long time ago, but I was considering a Staffordshire Terrier in the mid 70’s. These were much smaller dogs than the current overbred monstrosities, average weight was 30 to 35 pounds. The breeder has been in business for years, I was a little cautious and passed.. I didn’t hear much about them again until the crazy people took over the breed.

I wound up getting an English Bulldog from championship stock, he was very docile and loved being around people. I don’t think I ever saw him growl at another dog or person. He was a smart, for a bulldog

You're talking about the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, as distinct from the American Staffordshire Terrier. You sort of combined the names together, there.

Awesome little dogs. I came very close to getting one, myself, back in the late 1980s. Went to many shows to see them, and to interact with them and their owners, looking into puppies, but never quite pulled the trigger on getting one. I bought a Doberman Pinscher pup instead. About the best dog I've ever had.

I bet a Staff. Bull puppy is insanely expensive these days.

They were far from inexpensive back in the late 1980s, either.

I don't know why so many people like pitts. They're ugly damn things.

In many cases the dog is smarter than the owner.

Had 4 of the cacksucklers in my corrals this morning. Sadly, I was only fast enuff to swat 2 of them. One was a full pit, and 3 were mixes. I'm assuming a mom and 3 grown pups.The pit hauled ass as soon as I shot the first one, and the 4th made it into the weeds where I never saw them again. No neighbors within 3 miles, and none have pits. The meskins across the interstate might, but I've never seen any over there. Mighta been dumped here.....

I've always wanted one of those. Might bite the bullet one day, but two dogs in the house is plenty at the moment. My daughter and my sister are both enamored with a local family's miniature Bull Terrier (Spuds McKenzie / Target dog). He's a cool little guy at 25-30lbs but I'd hate to know what they paid for him. Sister has been a vet tech for years and she says she's generally most leery of new German Shepherds that some in her clinic. They've been the most "bitey" dogs she's dealt with that have the power/size to do real harm. The little ankle-biters are still probably the most prone breeds to bite at all, but they are too small to do much.

They were from an English breeder living in PA, IRRC. A really good English Bulldog was $400, the Staff was $500 at the time.They looked more like muscular terriers than the American. He was really picky about potential owners, fenced yards only with signed documents to not breed them unless approved by the breeder. I wasn’t very knowledgeable about the breed at the time, they are very handsome dogs.

I had precisely the same issues with the breeders who I wanted to buy a pup from. Exactly, even down to the agreement not to breed without their permission. I thought it was very strange, which might be why I never pulled the trigger on a purchase. Not that I had any intention of breeding, but they made it sound like I wasn't buying a dog so much as entering an agreement to care for one of their dogs.

I am always amazed that folks who buy dogs bred to point and retrieve expect them to do so but deny that dogs bred to fight and kill will do so. IMO, they confuse dog loyalty with genetically programmed disposition.