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I have no use for this thing, but couldn't resist. An older couple came into the shop with a few old guns to consign. One was this unmarked single shot bolt action 9mm Flobert rimfire "Garden Gun". I didn't think much of it at first, but as they do, it grabbed my heart strings. He had a box and a half of modern RWS ammo and a partial box of antique Winchester paper shells. After he left, I fired one round of the RWS at a dove target at about 12 yards and it threw a beautiful little pattern. Before I knew it, I had signed the adoption papers,

Other than the serial number and "8.50", there are no markings, other than a proof mark. I assumed it was Germanic, but the proof shows it to be French. It is in great shape and has a case colored bolt. It weighs a whopping 2 lbs 12 oz. I have no idea what I'll do with it, but in all honesty it will get used as much as many other guns in the safe...

I have a Winchester 36 9mm shotgun but yours is in much better shape than mine.

Evidently, there are still a metric sh*t-ton of similar guns still being made and used in Europe. I watched a video of a British guy living in France who said until at least the '90s, you could even buy them in "super markets".

That's wild to think Europe would be so friendly to small game/garden guns.

Wow, I can see how that would grow on you. Cool little rifle, can a person still find ammunition for it?

I saw a Winchester Model 36 for sale many years ago. Only one I have ever encountered,

Fiocchi still makes it in 6, 7.5, 8 & 9 shot but it doesn't exactly grow on trees. Midway only has the 7.5s in stock, damn near $60 per 50. I got about 65 shootable rounds with it and honestly I'll probably never shoot all those. That said, I'd like to eventually get a box of each of the four sizes just for the heck of it.

Chiappa even makes a SAA clone in 9 Flobert for the Europeans....who knew?

I've always found the round to be interesting and having a few of the Winchester model 36 9mm guns on hand I like to shoot in and around the garden. They are extremely fun to shoot.
The Fiocchi ammo is the way to go as you said and I did grab some from Midway USA last year in the various sizes. I recently grabbed some more at a cartridge show locally and am always looking for some more.
I won't shoot my Winchester Collectable ammo as it's a little pricey for collectors, being a paper cartridge.
Collectors try to buy up the older Winchester paper cartridges whether in a full box or individually.
Interesting post.
Thanks,
HS 58

Yeah, I got a partial box of the original paper Winchesters with the gun but won't shoot them either. Very cool to think of another time when one could walk into a hardware store and say "I'll take a box of 9mm rimfire shotgun shells with that shovel."

That's them! Some of the cartridge collectors sell them individually at the shows for $20 bucks each, or more! Then theirs the empty box that sells also! People love displaying the colorful empty boxes with their collections in their so called "caves"!

Interesting stuff.

Winchester model 36 was made from 1920-1927 with a total production of approximately 20,000 mfg. and the ammunition was made in a few varieties, such as 9mm. ball, 9mm. shot,(Long), and 9mm. shot,(short). The Short caliber boxes are a little scarce and command premiums. The Long being the most popular and usually found around the world in the "Flobert" falling block actions and similar. I'm pretty sure the last Winchester ammo was mfg. into the 1950's. Regardless we can still get the Fiocchi brand along with the RWS, and a few other foreign made 9mm. shot caliber ammo in a few various sizes.

HS 58

Simpsonltd.com has a 22WMR/9MM Flobert over under for sale right now

Any pics? Or a Link?

Thanks,
HS 58

www.simpsonltd.com click on long guns then click on combination guns

Correction, click on long guns and then click on "Other Manufacturers" and scroll down

Garden gun in Germany? Not without a licence! But that doesn't mean that it will be legal to be fired in the garden. Not even on cans or targets.

I purchased a German Buchsflinte .22lr/9mm Flobert a while back just because it looked interesting. It is a side by side hammer gun in great shape that seems to shoot very well. I picked up a couple boxes of Flobert ammo at Midway so am all set for the chipmunk invasion!

Jericho, thanks for the link. I do like that caliber combination. I don't think that's a bad price for $750.00! IMO!

HS 58

bernadeli makes a modern magazine fed semi auto 9mm shotgun.
owned it. shot it. got tired of it. sold it. made 100 bucks....all within 2 years.
hot potato!