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Is the term (Judaizer) pejorative or complimentary or maybe just descriptive of a believer in the continuation of the original covenant on the original terms? It simply means to live as a Jew. The Law of Moses (the old covenant) is NOT the Abrahamic Covenant. When the prophet Jeremiah declared in the Jewish Bible that God was going to make a New Covenant, NOT like the old covenant that He made with only the ancient Israelites when He took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt…the covenant that they broke…he was clearly referring to the temporary and conditional Law of Moses. He wasn’t referring to the everlasting and unconditional Abrahamic Covenant.
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Jesus never endorsed Paul. “…for he (Paul) is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel.” - Jesus There you go again Yeah, quoting Jesus’ own words. You clearly don’t like Jesus’ own words when they don’t jive with your already established beliefs and agenda.
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Jesus never endorsed Paul. “…for he (Paul) is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel.” - Jesus It wasn't Jesus who wrote the words. It's not a quote from Jesus. Yes, that was reported by Ananias who received the message in secret just as Jesus warned us to be on the lookout for, not to mention the meeting out in the desert on the road to Damascus which Jesus also warned against. Paul bears all the marks of an infiltrator commissioned by the Romans, the Jewish hierarchy, or a combination of both. If he was I hope he repented at the end but we won't know for a while yet. Judgement day is coming when all will be revealed.
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You clearly don’t like Jesus’ own words when they don’t jive with your already established beliefs and pandemic agenda. What the heck is a pandemic agenda.
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It is my joy to believe; not only in the flood and the ark but in Jesus of Nazareth as the only begotten son of God, and my Savior. What any of you believe is your choice, but in the paraphrased words of Joshua, 24:19 "As for me and my household, we will serve the Lord". Hoping all y'all have a great day.
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OK, laying that aside why was Paul under such threat in Jerusalem from the original Christians and barely got out alive? Why did the Jerusalem church and all the satellite churches in Asia Minor turn on him? You want to lay aside the very answer to the questions you’re asking…! The only Christians who turned on Apostle Paul were the Judaizers, who then stirred up other Jews who insisted that the Law of Moses was binding on Christians. I understand salvation is by grace because nobody deserves it but Jesus clearly refers to works as does James. Works being evidence of, not a requirement for. Salvation isn’t by grace ‘and’ works. It’s by grace alone, through trust and confidence in Jesus alone. Period.
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Question. If all the humans were wiped out in the flood, leaving Noah and his family as only survivors, how did we end up with all the different races ?
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Question. If all the humans were wiped out in the flood, leaving Noah and his family as only survivors, how did we end up with all the different races ? Now that's a good question for those that believe the literal version in Genesis. I don't believe that evolution could have accomplished that in a few thousand years. A Negro from Africa isn't going to evolve into a Swede or a Chinaman that quick or vice versa.
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Yes, that was reported by Ananias who received the message in secret… Jesus didn’t write any of His quotes throughout the New Testament manuscripts. Every single one of His quotes throughout the New Testament manuscripts was reported by someone else, and recorded (documented) by someone else. You cherry-pick. You clearly disregard the words of Jesus that don’t jive with your already established beliefs and agenda.
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OK, laying that aside why was Paul under such threat in Jerusalem from the original Christians and barely got out alive? Why did the Jerusalem church and all the satellite churches in Asia Minor turn on him? You want to lay aside the very answer to the questions you’re asking…! The only Christians who turned on Apostle Paul were the Judaizers, who then stirred up other Jews who insisted that the Law of Moses was binding on Christians.. OK then, were Jesus' original apostles that he publicly chose wrong? Were all the churches in Asia Minor wrong? It's an issue hard to get around. We know from Paul's own words that the church at Ephesus and "all in Asia" rejected him. We know from Jesus' own words in The Revelation of Jesus Christ in chapter 2 he commended the church at Ephesus for rooting out false apostles. What gives there? In The Revelation written to the churches in Asia Minor not once does Jesus mention his servant Paul. Signed: Hastings the Judaizer
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OK then, were Jesus' original apostles that he publicly chose wrong? Were all the churches in Asia Minor wrong? Again, the only Christians who turned on Apostle Paul were the Judaizers, who then stirred up other Jews who insisted that the Law of Moses was binding on Christians. It's an issue hard to get around. Only for you. That oughta tell ya’ somethin’.
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OK then, were Jesus' original apostles that he publicly chose wrong? Were all the churches in Asia Minor wrong? Again, the only Christians who turned on Apostle Paul were the Judaizers, who then stirred up other Jews who insisted that the Law of Moses was binding on Christians. It's an issue hard to get around. Only for you. That oughta tell ya’ somethin’. It is written that Jesus upheld the law of the prophets. Paul went his own way. Paul never knew Jesus in person or, obviously, heard him speak.
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Question. If all the humans were wiped out in the flood, leaving Noah and his family as only survivors, how did we end up with all the different races ? Strange stuff happens, maybe like the cojoined twins, and one of them got married?
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You CANNOT believe it, nor is it your call. Romans 3:9-18 explains why.
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OK, laying that aside why was Paul under such threat in Jerusalem from the original Christians and barely got out alive? Why did the Jerusalem church and all the satellite churches in Asia Minor turn on him? You want to lay aside the very answer to the questions you’re asking…! The only Christians who turned on Apostle Paul were the Judaizers, who then stirred up other Jews who insisted that the Law of Moses was binding on Christians. I understand salvation is by grace because nobody deserves it but Jesus clearly refers to works as does James. Works being evidence of, not a requirement for. Salvation isn’t by grace ‘and’ works. It’s by grace alone, through trust and confidence in Jesus alone. Period. ..... lest any man should boast. And we would.
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I recommend, Man in White by Johnny Cash.
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Question. If all the humans were wiped out in the flood, leaving Noah and his family as only survivors, how did we end up with all the different races ? Strange stuff happens, maybe like the cojoined twins, and one of them got married? Must have been a tall woodpile somewhere that didn't get flooded
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pure fiction, and frankly just another iteration of a fairly wide spread middle eastern myth. Going down a rabbit hole like this is why we got the inquisition and the death by torture and burning of 'heretics'.
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Is the term (Judaizer) pejorative or complimentary or maybe just descriptive of a believer in the continuation of the original covenant on the original terms? It simply means to live as a Jew. The Law of Moses (the old covenant) is NOT the Abrahamic Covenant. When the prophet Jeremiah declared in the Jewish Bible that God was going to make a New Covenant, NOT like the old covenant that He made with only the ancient Israelites when He took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt…the covenant that they broke…he was clearly referring to the temporary and conditional Law of Moses. He wasn’t referring to the everlasting and unconditional Abrahamic Covenant. "A priest forever, according to the order of Melchizedek."
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Yes. Floods happen relatively frequently.
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