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Dillonbuck: The VarmintWife and I just returned from an 8 day auto Safari through 6 western states and LITERALLY every person we ran across/dealt with/asked about accommodations etc had their hand out and MANY of these folks had NO qualms about directly asking to be tipped!
One server at a high end hotels restaurant was so blatant "I" stiffed him (no gratuity at all!)!
Especially egregious were the American Indian folks we dealt with.
Kind of left a bad taste in my mouth but we saw so many wonderful sights that it kind of made up for this new phenomenon.
In the common tipping circumstance (restaurant waiters) I tip 10% if service is pleasant and timely.
More on rare occasions.
Hold into the wind
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Dillonbuck: The VarmintWife and I just returned from an 8 day auto Safari through 6 western states and LITERALLY every person we ran across/dealt with/asked about accommodations etc had their hand out and MANY of these folks had NO qualms about directly asking to be tipped!
One server at a high end hotels restaurant was so blatant "I" stiffed him (no gratuity at all!)!
Especially egregious were the American Indian folks we dealt with.
Kind of left a bad taste in my mouth but we saw so many wonderful sights that it kind of made up for this new phenomenon.
In the common tipping circumstance (restaurant waiters) I tip 10% if service is pleasant and timely.
More on rare occasions.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy That's good info VG. My wife and I are going to be in your area this year visiting YNP and the Tetons. Nothing closes my wallet faster than what you described. I'm a generous tipper....if the service is great but I'm really starting to get pissed off with the attitudes and pisspoor service.
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The thing that turns me off is when an owner/ server expects a tip.
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I thought this was going to be about cows....
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Got an eye opener last month at a local restaurant i take customers too. Go there 6-7 times a month and honestly never paid attention as it is the company card. Usually take 4-5 guys Yada yada. Last month i had 6 of us and once again i hardly pay attention to the main bill just the credit card signature and tip page. I add the 20%(she a great waitress always knows what i drink both a water and a bourbon or beer lol) and damn it seemed high. Got to looking at the order receipt and they AUTOMATICALLY add 18% gratuity to any party 6 and over. I asked her and she said that the owner started that a month ago. I’m like wow. Not her fault at all and depends on what i get if i have 6 people for her I usually add the extra. Not the rest of the clowns. But now i find im looking at every receipt form every restaurant to make sure on the extra tip crap. Damn subway for a lunch eat sandwich has the tip 18% 20% 22 % on the check out. I click 0 % for a sandwich i have to carry to the table myself, get my own drink, and throw my mess away. Owners can screw their employees this way. Ran into the same thing in Dallas a while back. One gets a bit ticked at first, and we almost just left it at the percentage instead of adding extra. IE 18% but we were going to tip around 30%... OTOH some have no clue that some places its how it goes. I'm good with a simple sign that says our folks do the best they can, gratuities are greatly appreciated. Easy enough.
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The thing that turns me off is when an owner/ server expects a tip. I've heard this before too. Although the owner/guide I work for works his tail off as much and more than other guides. I dont' see why he shouldn't receive the same tip. I understand he has the chance to make more than the workers, but right now due to circumstances he is making less than he pays the guides. Hopefully nature will turn that around at some point.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Around here, and I suppose elsewhere, the order-at-the-counter-and-they'll-bring-it-to-you restaurants are asking for tips via their checkout before you even get any service. What's the likelihood you'll get good service if you say no to that, even though you'd be willing to tip afterwards?
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Only place to tip in our little town is the local Mexican restaurant. With real Mexicans running the place and wait staff. Good food. Good service. And I always leave a decent tip. Maybe they remember from visit to visit...  Apart from a monetary tip, another thing that is always appreciated is being "good customer"...
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Arron charged me $1,590+/- to make 20k+/- BF of WP lumber... https://photos.app.goo.gl/9ZeixY9jDZ6m33sC8I gave him $1,800 cash... he was trying to figure out why... nobody had ever tipped him before... IF I NEED HIM BACK FOR ANOTHER JOB... I AM CERTAIN HE WILL GLADLY COME BACK. Sometimes tipping is just a smart practical business decision. I’ve done the same for work done right on time.
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Charter fishing boats, I understand the deck hand often gets no wage, just tips.
The boat captain gets paid for use of the boat.
I tip the deck hand the same as I can earn in a day, the captain half of that, when I have the whole boat booked.
Waitresses in sit down restaurants are paid at a rate that requires tips to make a wage. The IRS assumes they get tips and bills them accordingly.
If you can not afford to tip the waitress, you can't afford to eat at the restaurant. Get back in the car and go to MCDonalds.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Let's start with I believe a tip is a gift for service above expectations.
Or should be. (Let's avoid the wages......)
Forget about waitstaff and a few service workers traditionally rewarded for good work.
It gotten completely out of hand, with everyone having their hand out.
I ordered from Traverse Creek today, $30 worth of parts, 5 or 6 dollars to ship it USPS.
Working through the order process, I WAS GIVEN THE OPTION TO TIP!
For an online saw parts order!
It was even broken down, %5, 10%, 15%, 20%. Just click on which one you didn't want anymore.
Two day delivery, bet mine doesn't get shipped for two weeks now. I'd find a new place to order saw parts and let them know why. Been thinking about just that. Figured I’d cool my jets and let this play out. Wondered how fast my order would process without a tip? Sent it early yesterday, got an email at lunch time today telling me a label was created, but not picked up. As of now 3pm, it hasn’t shipped. They sat on it for more than a day before they created a label… too late to ship today? I could have had it Saturday did the muffler and tried it out. Now I won’t. Instead of telling them to pound sand as someone who wasn’t a customer, I’ll be able to tell them I’m done as a customer. Soliciting tips, poor service…. Punishing customers for not tipping?
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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If you can not afford to tip the waitress, you can't afford to eat at the restaurant. Get back in the car and go to MCDonalds. Stands to reason that anyone who has made 25,714 posts will say something stupid and you did not disappoint.
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If you can not afford to tip the waitress, you can't afford to eat at the restaurant. Get back in the car and go to MCDonalds. Stands to reason that anyone who has made 25,714 posts will say something stupid and you did not disappoint. Seems you took the post personally! Good! I hope your daughters and grand daughters have to support themself waiting tables someday. It is good honest work.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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If you can not afford to tip the waitress, you can't afford to eat at the restaurant. Get back in the car and go to MCDonalds. Stands to reason that anyone who has made 25,714 posts will say something stupid and you did not disappoint. Seems you took the post personally! Good! I hope your daughters and grand daughters have to support themself waiting tables someday. It is good honest work. Tips are earned, not required and if someone gets a tip has rarely has f-all to do with if the patron is a brokedick or not.
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Possibly not. Yet broke-dicks often use their broke-dickedness as justification for "stiffing" waitresses and others in the service industries.
It is commonly heard, "If they don't like working for seven $/hr, they should find a different job."
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Possibly not. Yet broke-dicks often use their broke-dickedness as justification for "stiffing" waitresses and others in the service industries.
It is commonly heard, "If they don't like working for seven $/hr, they should find a different job." Again - the belief that a waitress who doesn't like working for X should find something else - zero connection to being a brokedick.
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Not to say at all, that a crappy, negligent, sour puss waitress deserves any tip at all. Nor does she deserve a tip just because she hangs most of a set of DDs out in your face. Though the latter does seem to make a big difference.
It is not by accident that waitresses refer to big titties as "the money makers."
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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The pay for full-service sit-down wait staff is, or used to be anyway, based on the expectation that tips will augment it significantly. That should improve the service and help keep the prices down. Policies vary among establishments, some requiring tips be shared among the servers and bus people. I tip 20% to start, only dropping to 15% for somewhat sloppy service. I’ll go higher for really good service. Carry-out staff may or may not get tips, usually that’s a jar shared among all those folks. Pretty girls get more, surprise surprise. Such is life….
Fast food people don’t get tips, and around here they make pretty good hourly wages for entry-level work.
What fresh Hell is this?
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Possibly not. Yet broke-dicks often use their broke-dickedness as justification for "stiffing" waitresses and others in the service industries.
It is commonly heard, "If they don't like working for seven $/hr, they should find a different job." Again - the belief that a waitress who doesn't like working for X should find something else - zero connection to being a brokedick. Again, just justification. And not all penny pinching cheapskate asswholes are actually broke-dick. Many wealthy people brag they got that way, by not frivolously tossing money around. Another justification.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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The pay for full-service sit-down wait staff is, or used to be anyway, based on the expectation that tips will augment it significantly. That should improve the service and help keep the prices down. Policies vary among establishments, some requiring tips be shared among the servers and bus people. I tip 20% to start, only dropping to 15% for somewhat sloppy service. I’ll go higher for really good service. Carry-out staff may or may not get tips, usually that’s a jar shared among all those folks. Pretty girls get more, surprise surprise. Such is life….
Fast food people don’t get tips, and around here they make pretty good hourly wages for entry-level work. Well Said!
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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