It’s the weightiest matters that matter; insignificant theological differences between folks don’t matter. At all.
As long as they agree that Jesus died for their sins and rose from the dead, and they accept God’s gift of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus alone, then they’re good to go. Period.
When you get right down to it, every individual is a denomination unto themselves. You sure are. I am too.
It’s the weightiest matters that matter; insignificant theological differences between folks don’t matter. At all.
As long as they agree that Jesus died for their sins and rose from the dead, and they accept God’s gift of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus alone, then they’re good to go. Period.
When you get right down to it, every individual is a denomination unto themselves. You sure are.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
If you belong to one of the sects that believes the Bible is the unerring, or perfect word of God, then you must believe the generations of blood line of Jesus listed in the NT give a timeline of the earth back to Adam, and hence, reveals the age of the Earth.
A lotta people feel that way about the Bible (that “it’s the unerring, or perfect word of God”) while at the same time realizing that the Bible clearly sometimes speaks figuratively, metaphorically, allegorically, and sometimes teaches through parables…NONE of which are meant to be taken literally.
If the fall is figurative, so is the need for Jesus and redemption. If the account of creation in genesis is allegory, special creation did not happen.
I did not realize geologists etc needed to know earths actual age to be able to find petroleum.
Learn something new every day. I thought they looked at geology. Test core drilled. Checked that out for what matter was in it, then decided if possible. Then likely shot a seismic or did a test well.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
Some with an agenda, some who have admitted right here on this forum that even if they knew for a fact that Christianity was true, they would still deny it, have further added that “If the fall is figurative, so is the need for Jesus and redemption.”
Nope. But until you see yourself as a sinner, you won’t see your need for a savior. Period. Most people don’t need the story of “the fall”…literally or figuratively…to realize that they’re not perfect, and that they are in fact, sinners.
Salvation isn’t based on whether or not one believes anything that was written in the Old Testament, literally or figuratively.
But it is based on believing in the Gospel.
As long as one acknowledges that Jesus died for the sins of everyone and rose from the dead, and one accepts God’s gift of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus alone, then they’re good to go. Period.
Nope. But until you see yourself as a sinner, you won’t see your need for a savior. Period. Most people don’t need the story of “the fall”…literally or figuratively…to realize that they’re not perfect, and that they are in fact, sinners.
Salvation isn’t based on whether or not one believes anything that was written in the Old Testament, literally or figuratively.
But it is based on believing in the Gospel.
As long as one acknowledges that Jesus died for the sins of everyone and rose from the dead, and one accepts God’s gift of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus alone, then they’re good to go. Period.
That's our version of Christianity, but not all Christians share your beliefs.
If The Fall is figurative, why not Noah?
Why not Jesus?
Why not God?
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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
I am still having trouble trying to reconcile salvation by faith in "Christ and Him Crucified" (and resurrected) and all the billions that never heard the story and all the billions that died as children before they could ever form a thought past the fact they were hungry or cold and certainly not an abstract thought.
There are way more dead now that never heard of the God of Abraham than there are that did.
Reincarnation could be the answer but our learned men here boo that idea off the stage as soon as it's presented. It's a problem.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Again, salvation isn’t based on whether or not one believes anything that was written in the Old Testament, literally or figuratively.
But it is based on believing in the Gospel.
As long as one acknowledges that Jesus died for the sins of everyone and rose from the dead, and one accepts God’s gift of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus alone, then they’re good to go. Period.
You have a choice. God will honor your choice. You can choose to spend eternity in His presence. It’s easy. It’s simple. Nothing complicated about it. At all. Or you can choose to ‘not’ spend eternity in His presence. The choice is yours.
Again, salvation isn’t based on whether or not one believes anything that was written in the Old Testament, literally or figuratively.
But it is based on believing in the Gospel.
As long as one acknowledges that Jesus died for the sins of everyone and rose from the dead, and one accepts God’s gift of salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus alone, then they’re good to go. Period.
You have a choice. God will honor your choice. You can choose to spend eternity in His presence. It’s easy. It’s simple. Nothing complicated about it. At all. Or you can choose to ‘not’ spend eternity in His presence. The choice is yours.
If he doesn't exist, it's an empty choice.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
I am still having trouble trying to reconcile salvation by faith in "Christ and Him Crucified" (and resurrected)…,
All of the issues that you mention in your post have been addressed by multiple people here, on multiple threads of this kind, both present and past.
Yes, but none of it makes much sense if you hold it up against their other "beliefs". If you never heard of Jesus or Paul your works count. If you have available to you the approved version of the NT your faith in Christ and Him Crucified is the ticket. That's what Jimmy Swaggart teaches, and he advertises his writings excoriating the Catholics, the Mormons, the Moslems, and now he is pretty hard down on the Assembly of God the denomination that reluctantly gave him the boot.
In the present last few months what happens to the little Jewish or Palestinian 4 year old that got killed in the ongoing conflict over there? It's a problem.
I guess we can say that a just God can handle it.
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Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
