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No way in hell Iād do shingles again
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Pat,
you could just build a new house ya know.
Humor aside, I think you're on the right track following some of these guys' advice. Would love to replace ours with metal when it finally goes. 18 years old now and starting to show some wear and tear. Being retired, we'll probably do asphalt shingles again and let new owners live with them after we die and no longer own the place.
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In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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EB, I'd probably be all over a metal roof and will definitely look into it..
My reluctance lies in the fact I'm 70 years old, a comp roof will probably outlast me..
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As stated, tear off, check for sound wood, use modern underlayment, proper nail spacing per shingle, new pipe flashing boots, ridge vent with matching or proper soffit vent sq ft. , T drip rail flashing, if moss is an issue place zinc strips at top both sides.
With one layer and proper venting the house will be noticeably comfortable. As mentioned the roof will last longer.
Some of this is required by code in many areas, a roof done right looks good from day one.
There is often quite a difference on warranty, life and wind rating with specific nail count, staples are not as good here in the wind.
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Heck no! Insurance companies allow 2 or 3 layers.
If you go from composition shingles to metal, your home insurance company will reduce your payments!
A metal roof is cheaper than shingles.
Metal will last 50 years or more and is literally maintenance free!
The one downside to a metal roof is you'll have to sign a cosmetic rider. If a hail storm hits your metal roof and dents the heck out of it, the insurance company won't replace it unless the hail actually breaks the metal. The only way I would go metal, which I like, is heavy gauge standing seam over plywood sheathing.
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Tear off is the best. While your gathering information on a new roof, read up on continuous ridge vent. Put a few on and they work great. They make different sizes. Most places stock the minimal coverage type but you can order the larger type for more lap over the ridge. Does a continuous ridge vent work well with 4ā of snow over it? š Yes
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I would tear off asphalt shingles and reroof with standing seam metal roof. It will be trouble free for many years. They look very good also.
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EB, I'd probably be all over a metal roof and will definitely look into it..
My reluctance lies in the fact I'm 70 years old, a comp roof will probably outlast me.. Makes no sense!? 1. Metal roof is cheaper than composite shingles 2. Home owners insurance savings Whether you outlast a metal roof or not, it's still money in your pocket.
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EB, I'd probably be all over a metal roof and will definitely look into it..
My reluctance lies in the fact I'm 70 years old, a comp roof will probably outlast me.. Makes no sense!? 1. Metal roof is cheaper than composite shingles 2. Home owners insurance savings Whether you outlast a metal roof or not, it's still money in your pocket. Metal was not cheaper for me last year. Not even close.
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Avoid vinyl/plastic pipe flashing with rubber boots. The vinyl bows with heat and pulls nails over time, and the sun will deteriorate the rubber boots. Then you have leaks. Choose your roofer wisely.
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I'd heard that metal was considerably more expensive than shingles thus my comment about price and longevity .
Thanks GL, I'm making notes of all this information..
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I just had my house re-shingled on Saturday due to hail last fall.
$17k !!
It wasn't big hail but I called the adjuster anyway. It got approved to be re-done, thank God! I was due in a year or two anyway.
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EB, I'd probably be all over a metal roof and will definitely look into it..
My reluctance lies in the fact I'm 70 years old, a comp roof will probably outlast me.. Makes no sense!? 1. Metal roof is cheaper than composite shingles 2. Home owners insurance savings Whether you outlast a metal roof or not, it's still money in your pocket. Metal was not cheaper for me last year. Not even close. Reroofed our home in 2015? Ten years ago? Our roof has no hips or valley's. If we had used colored metal, it would have cost $2K more. We went with galvanized and saved. The roofer we used dealt in metal roofs only. AND........ we shaved several bucks off our homeowners policy premiums, too!
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EB, I'd probably be all over a metal roof and will definitely look into it..
My reluctance lies in the fact I'm 70 years old, a comp roof will probably outlast me.. Makes no sense!? 1. Metal roof is cheaper than composite shingles 2. Home owners insurance savings Whether you outlast a metal roof or not, it's still money in your pocket. Metal was not cheaper for me last year. Not even close. Reroofed our home in 2015? Ten years ago? Our roof has no hips or valley's. If we had used colored metal, it would have cost $2K more. We went with galvanized and saved. The roofer we used dealt in metal roofs only. AND........ we shaved several bucks off our homeowners policy premiums, too! How did your price compare to shingled? I had mine done in shingles (full tear off, replaced 5 sheets of plywood under) for 225 a square with shingles. Metal was quoted at 675 a square. Last year. Metal was more expensive from a materials and labor perspective.
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EB, I'd probably be all over a metal roof and will definitely look into it..
My reluctance lies in the fact I'm 70 years old, a comp roof will probably outlast me.. Makes no sense!? 1. Metal roof is cheaper than composite shingles 2. Home owners insurance savings Whether you outlast a metal roof or not, it's still money in your pocket. Metal was not cheaper for me last year. Not even close. Metal roofs can last 40-70 years, depending on the material. Traditional asphalt roofing materials have an estimated life expectancy of roughly 12-20 years. So, a metal roof lasts 3Ć longer than shingles. You'll pay for 2 to 3 more shingle roofs before a metal roof goes bad. A metal roof can add as much a 6% to the value of your home. A hail storm that won't faze a metal roof will ruin a composite roof. We didn't use the "standing seam" metal. Three rib standard metal roofing from Metal Mart in Wichita Falls, TX. Used it on the outside of the house too. No painting a house for me! š
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EB, I'd probably be all over a metal roof and will definitely look into it..
My reluctance lies in the fact I'm 70 years old, a comp roof will probably outlast me.. Makes no sense!? 1. Metal roof is cheaper than composite shingles 2. Home owners insurance savings Whether you outlast a metal roof or not, it's still money in your pocket. Metal was not cheaper for me last year. Not even close. Metal roofs can last 40-70 years, depending on the material. Traditional asphalt roofing materials have an estimated life expectancy of roughly 12-20 years. So, a metal roof lasts 3Ć longer than shingles. You'll pay for 2 to 3 more shingle roofs before a metal roof goes bad. A metal roof can add as much a 6% to the value of your home. A hail storm that won't faze a metal roof will ruin a composite roof. We didn't use the "standing seam" metal. Three rib standard metal roofing from Metal Mart in Wichita Falls, TX. Used it on the outside of the house too. No painting a house for me! š Interesting as the metal roof estimates came back at 2.5-3x the cost for shingles. No savings for me. The old roof on here was 35 years old. The old shingle roof on our hunting camp was well over 50 (was torn off a house and we "reused" them another 35 years). Shingles last longer than most give credit for. Hail storms aren't a major issue here, we get some good wind but even that - in the grand scheme, isn't much.
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I haven't seen anyone here mention that current "Architectural" asphalt shingles are superior to the old 3 tab thats probably being replaced, better looking too.
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Oh boy galvanized colored metal
Bet that looks delicious
maybe on a barn
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