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I cant watch these. I seriously want to see a concealed carrier pop out of the blue and loosen his brain matter. It would just make me feel better.
And the shìt thing is that not all bad cops are bad cops all of the time. I'm sure he's done plenty of good and has good intentions at times but so do pit bulls until they turn on their owner. This shìt is just becoming too common amd the worst part is that they aren't shunned from existence. Qualified immunity really should be ended. Or maybe make them bonded and insured. He hasn't been a cop long and has exhibited similar behavior with at least 1 other agency who sent him to more training. At least agency #1 wasn't amused by the shoddy behavior as the current agency seems to be. QI ending is one part that would be an improvement. Treating this kind of thing as racketeering would be useful. QI still needs to exist. There are indeed completely frivolous lawsuits, and QI protects against that. What needs to happen though, is that the bar for losing QI needs to be drastically lowered. As in - if you need to get remedial training on de-escalation because of how you handled an interaction with the public, well you obviously should have lost QI for that incident. QI is not protection against frivolous lawsuits, QI is protection for the cops when rights have been violated.
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Rotten mf doesn’t need out of law enforcement. He needs to be out of the gene pool. Covers all bases. Righteous anger is appropriate. Go be righteous then. You know where to find him. What are you waiting for? All this talk and no action...
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One other comment on the low percentage LE being sadistic in their job. Several of us when we were younger had personal contact with a garbage man with a badge (my apologies to garbage men). Many others as well who I didn’t know personally. Small town wouldn’t listen. One off day he was riding his little Honda around being cool and a militiaman ran him off the road, physically assaulted him, then beat him bloody with his cycle helment. Garbage man found a new career. Militiaman got punished though I don’t remember the way. But he knew what was coming and didn’t care. Justice not according to law.
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I cant watch these. I seriously want to see a concealed carrier pop out of the blue and loosen his brain matter. It would just make me feel better.
And the shìt thing is that not all bad cops are bad cops all of the time. I'm sure he's done plenty of good and has good intentions at times but so do pit bulls until they turn on their owner. This shìt is just becoming too common amd the worst part is that they aren't shunned from existence. Qualified immunity really should be ended. Or maybe make them bonded and insured. He hasn't been a cop long and has exhibited similar behavior with at least 1 other agency who sent him to more training. At least agency #1 wasn't amused by the shoddy behavior as the current agency seems to be. QI ending is one part that would be an improvement. Treating this kind of thing as racketeering would be useful. QI still needs to exist. There are indeed completely frivolous lawsuits, and QI protects against that. What needs to happen though, is that the bar for losing QI needs to be drastically lowered. As in - if you need to get remedial training on de-escalation because of how you handled an interaction with the public, well you obviously should have lost QI for that incident. QI is not protection against frivolous lawsuits, QI is protection for the cops when rights have been violated. From Cornell Law: “Qualified immunity balances two important interests—the need to hold public officials accountable when they exercise power irresponsibly and the need to shield officials from harassment, distraction, and liability when they perform their duties reasonably.” The big issue is that too many judges find that plaintiffs can't prove that government officials had "violated a “clearly established” statutory or constitutional right." Which leads me to believe that the apparent lack of training regarding the first, fourth and fifth amendments is INTENTIONAL. If it can be proven that you were well educated on those rights, and yet went on to violate them, then it would be easy for plaintiffs to prove that those rights were clearly established and or constitutional. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/qualified_immunity
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I try to see the side from a cops perspective. I respect police and have never had a negative interaction with the cops in my entire life, because Im always respectful. That said, that cop should be fired at best and if that was my daughter, Id be in jail
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I try to see the side from a cops perspective. I respect police and have never had a negative interaction with the cops in my entire life, because Im always respectful. That said, that cop should be fired at best and if that was my daughter, Id be in jail Pretty much how I see it.
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Rotten mf doesn’t need out of law enforcement. He needs to be out of the gene pool. Covers all bases. Righteous anger is appropriate. Go be righteous then. You know where to find him. What are you waiting for? All this talk and no action... You won't even condemn him for his actions, but you want someone else to go do something about it. You're a scumbag for defending and not giving a sheit about his behavior. I have never ONCE seen you say a cop was wrong, if you have the show me.
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I try to see the side from a cops perspective. I respect police and have never had a negative interaction with the cops in my entire life, because Im always respectful. That said, that cop should be fired at best and if that was my daughter, Id be in jail Not if I was on the jury.
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that cop is an absolute piece of crap.
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I cant watch these. I seriously want to see a concealed carrier pop out of the blue and loosen his brain matter. It would just make me feel better.
And the shìt thing is that not all bad cops are bad cops all of the time. I'm sure he's done plenty of good and has good intentions at times but so do pit bulls until they turn on their owner. This shìt is just becoming too common amd the worst part is that they aren't shunned from existence. Qualified immunity really should be ended. Or maybe make them bonded and insured. He hasn't been a cop long and has exhibited similar behavior with at least 1 other agency who sent him to more training. At least agency #1 wasn't amused by the shoddy behavior as the current agency seems to be. QI ending is one part that would be an improvement. Treating this kind of thing as racketeering would be useful. QI still needs to exist. There are indeed completely frivolous lawsuits, and QI protects against that. What needs to happen though, is that the bar for losing QI needs to be drastically lowered. As in - if you need to get remedial training on de-escalation because of how you handled an interaction with the public, well you obviously should have lost QI for that incident. QI is not protection against frivolous lawsuits, QI is protection for the cops when rights have been violated. From Cornell Law: “Qualified immunity balances two important interests—the need to hold public officials accountable when they exercise power irresponsibly and the need to shield officials from harassment, distraction, and liability when they perform their duties reasonably.” The big issue is that too many judges find that plaintiffs can't prove that government officials had "violated a “clearly established” statutory or constitutional right." Which leads me to believe that the apparent lack of training regarding the first, fourth and fifth amendments is INTENTIONAL. If it can be proven that you were well educated on those rights, and yet went on to violate them, then it would be easy for plaintiffs to prove that those rights were clearly established and or constitutional. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/qualified_immunityGo look up some QI granted cases to see what rights aren't "clearly established". Stealing cash is one of those rights no officer could have realized they were violating. Jessop v. City of Fresno, No. 17-16756 (9th Cir. 2019) :: Justia https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/17-16756/17-16756-2019-09-04.html"incident, there was no clearly established law holding that officers violate the Fourth or Fourteenth Amendment when they steal property seized pursuant to a warrant. For that reason, the City Officers were entitled to qualified immunity."
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That city will , most likely, pay for her advanced degree(s),, and well they should
IDK-- maybe there is a chapter in their manual on how to terrorize teenage girls
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Cops aren’t gentle if they have to remove you from a vehicle. Why did he "have" to remove her from the vehicle? Guess he didn't "have" to remove her from the vehicle. Sounds like she refused to identify herself. On the video, it appears he spent a good deal of time trying to talk her out. Then he took her out. The dad didn’t seem to even care. Her Dad cared exactly the right amount. He came down and made sure the girl was no longer being mishandled, or abused. His presence was all that was necessary to protect her interests. Apparently he followed to the Police Station, posted bail, and took her home. There could be no profit in engaging the officers on the street. The time for that is later, in the court room, and via the 'net, the court of public opinion. 100%. Plus, he knew he was on camera. He knew how this would play out before he arrived at the scene.
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I guess the one piece that's not there that I'd really like to see/hear is the verbal exchange prior to her being removed. The reason I say that is the 1st thing you hear from this gal when she's removed from the car is:
"What the F".
She might have been trying to be worriedly compliant, shook up, and not efficient in retrieving the information the officer requested. Or, she might've been a little brat.
The interaction w/the other motorist doesn't make it look like the officer is even-tempered and goes straight to "power-trip" at the drop of a hat.
Looks like South Whitley is a small town of 1700-1800 people. Family name aside (good or bad), if she's a good kid, everybody in town that size knows it. Business owners will invoke the, "We reserve the right to refuse service" deal and the only goods/services that will be available to him in town will be a public payphone.
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Rotten mf doesn’t need out of law enforcement. He needs to be out of the gene pool. Covers all bases. Righteous anger is appropriate. Go be righteous then. You know where to find him. What are you waiting for? All this talk and no action... You won't even condemn him for his actions, but you want someone else to go do something about it. You're a scumbag for defending and not giving a sheit about his behavior. I have never ONCE seen you say a cop was wrong, if you have the show me. He was wrong. Should be killed in the town square to make an example of. Kill them all. (I have been critical and condemned police multiple times, I'm sorry youbare too ate up with retard to have observed it, go fùck yourself you old bìtch)
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I cant watch these. I seriously want to see a concealed carrier pop out of the blue and loosen his brain matter. It would just make me feel better. Why wait for someone else to do it? Not my fight, but it would tickle my dopamine receptors to see someone else do it.
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I guess the one piece that's not there that I'd really like to see/hear is the verbal exchange prior to her being removed. The reason I say that is the 1st thing you hear from this gal when she's removed from the car is:
"What the F".
She might have been trying to be worriedly compliant, shook up, and not efficient in retrieving the information the officer requested. Or, she might've been a little brat.
The interaction w/the other motorist doesn't make it look like the officer is even-tempered and goes straight to "power-trip" at the drop of a hat.
Looks like South Whitley is a small town of 1700-1800 people. Family name aside (good or bad), if she's a good kid, everybody in town that size knows it. Business owners will invoke the, "We reserve the right to refuse service" deal and the only goods/services that will be available to him in town will be a public payphone. The lack of audio was the choice of the cop who chose to not turn his body camera on. If businesses try to deny him service the tbl community will do their "hate all cops" and "they support criminals" rants(at a minimum) until they give in or go under.
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I guess the one piece that's not there that I'd really like to see/hear is the verbal exchange prior to her being removed. The reason I say that is the 1st thing you hear from this gal when she's removed from the car is:
"What the F".
She might have been trying to be worriedly compliant, shook up, and not efficient in retrieving the information the officer requested. Or, she might've been a little brat.
The interaction w/the other motorist doesn't make it look like the officer is even-tempered and goes straight to "power-trip" at the drop of a hat.
Looks like South Whitley is a small town of 1700-1800 people. Family name aside (good or bad), if she's a good kid, everybody in town that size knows it. Business owners will invoke the, "We reserve the right to refuse service" deal and the only goods/services that will be available to him in town will be a public payphone. The lack of audio was the choice of the cop who chose to not turn his body camera on. The lack of audio and video at the start of the incident speaks volumes regarding his intent to be an arrogant azzhat.
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I cant watch these. I seriously want to see a concealed carrier pop out of the blue and loosen his brain matter. It would just make me feel better. Why wait for someone else to do it? Not my fight, but it would tickle my dopamine receptors to see someone else do it. So just Iike everyone else, all talk. Too bad.
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How do you folks criticizing the officer think he should have handled it? Just to clarify, but your question implies you approve of how he handled it. Do you?
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I guess the one piece that's not there that I'd really like to see/hear is the verbal exchange prior to her being removed. The reason I say that is the 1st thing you hear from this gal when she's removed from the car is:
"What the F".
She might have been trying to be worriedly compliant, shook up, and not efficient in retrieving the information the officer requested. Or, she might've been a little brat.
The interaction w/the other motorist doesn't make it look like the officer is even-tempered and goes straight to "power-trip" at the drop of a hat.
Looks like South Whitley is a small town of 1700-1800 people. Family name aside (good or bad), if she's a good kid, everybody in town that size knows it. Business owners will invoke the, "We reserve the right to refuse service" deal and the only goods/services that will be available to him in town will be a public payphone. The lack of audio was the choice of the cop who chose to not turn his body camera on. The lack of audio and video at the start of the incident speaks volumes regarding his intent to be an arrogant azzhat. He actually shut off his body cam, and lied about shutting it off. Intent and cover up.
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