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Not the first state to do so. Who I do like is they can do it without coworkers knowing.

What got my attention is the hysterics of the Karens and other protesters.

https://apnews.com/article/tennessee-arming-teachers-guns-2d7d80fa1f54f8f9585a6d2e98fec9fd

After the Columbine shootings the state of Tennessee decided that every school had to have a crisis intervention team. Sounds like a solid step forward until you realize that the team members were not allowed to have any firearms. I was on that team and it felt like I was supposed to tackle a threat empty handed. I did keep a ball bat in the corner by my desk for 10 years.

Good idea.

Colorado middle school my children attended had at least one firearm at the ready, and this was before Columbine.

Every state, school in the nation should have armed teachers. Gun Free Zones are the problem.

Spot on! Get rid of gun free zones. Arm the teachers. All good steps to stopping this chit

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We can't even trust our teachers to teach the fundamentals without pushing their Liberal agenda, indoctrinating our youth into the Transgender community, force feeding them CRT bullschit, project 1619 and having school board members taking their oath on a stack of LGPTQFAG pornography and you Trust them with a firearm watching over your kids. Interesting

From the article:

"Under the bill passed Tuesday, a worker who wants to carry a handgun would need to have a handgun carry permit and written authorization from the school’s principal and local law enforcement. They would also need to clear a background check and undergo 40 hours of handgun training. They couldn’t carry guns at school events at stadiums, gymnasiums or auditoriums."

I like the idea of requiring a carry permit and at least 40 hours of training. I do not understand why the staff would not be allowed to carry at events staged in stadiums, gyms, or auditoriums. Those places are exactly where many shootings take place.

Ol Mike, if I was wanting to shoot up a place and kill people I would look for a Gun Free Zone.

The liberal principals in most of the schools will probably kill the requests within their school anyway.

Now there will be even more domestic terrorist parents at school board meetings

Then parents need to protest everyday until the principal resigns or gets fired.

steve4102 not all teachers spew the agenda you refer to, I assure you. The bigger question here is do you want to give your children a better chance of coming home to you should a catastrophic situation occur, by having qualified armed staff in the building to somewhat thwart or stop a tragedy should it arise? I know what my preference is/would be!

steve4102 not all teachers spew the agenda you refer to, I assure you. The bigger question here is do you want to give your children a better chance of coming home to you should a catastrophic situation occur, by having qualified armed staff in the building to somewhat thwart or stop a tragedy should it arise? I know what my preference is/would be!

Iowa is going this way as well. https://www.thegazette.com/state-go...ermitting-staff-to-carry-guns-in-school/

Actually I think !pregnant (WTF auto correvt!) over half the states allow it.


TN makes them go through lots of (paid) training to do so.
Plus A psych evaluation...

Maybe we should put the teachers who Don't want to protect kids under a psych evaluation.

Teachers cannot even be trusted to Teach, you do the math.

Depends on the teacher.

Actually I’m in favor of the training requirement, we require our Cops to be trained, why not training for a teacher, where, if they do shoot, it would be part of a deadly force interaction with lots of minors and later First Responders arriving on the scene.

The thought process of protecting a school from a tragic shooting usually relates to an outside threat that has gained access. That is a pretty clear scenario to justify arming teachers and the use of deadly force.

Where things will get cloudy is when joebob or Demetrius, a student setting at the desk in their regularly scheduled class, decides to take the teacher on one on one. In a room full of hostile witnesses.

I firmly believe that the only way to truly provide any degree of security to students, teachers and assorted other school staff is for as many teachers as possible to be armed which would be especially critical in large building/campus, multiple story schools.

Tennessee is just recognizing the fact that some teachers have been carrying for years- - - -damn the poosy administrators with lace on their drawers (and those are the men!). Lots of us were willing to risk dismissal for having the audacity to survive an attack, and have the option of tripling our pay by going back to the trade we learned before getting a vocational teaching certificate. "Concealed carry" means that nobody knows you're packing until the schidt hits the fan. The assistant principal (AKA a coach with two losing seasons) was more likely to toe the party line, because he would starve to death if he ever lost his job.

I wonder how many school teachers carry a firearm concealed even though they arent supposed to?

Far more often left in a vehicle.

I’m pretty sure most all urban school districts now have random checks with drug dogs that also alert to firearms. At least one district here has random metal detector checks set up in hallways. I’ve never seen one so I dunno if they check teachers too. Years back the dog detected a shotgun in the trunk of a teacher’s car during dove season, which back then was a fireable offense. They cut him some slack, called in a sub to cover his classes and let him take it home.

Most places, if you have a high school with 2-3,000 students, I would guess there’s gonna be at least a couple of students with a gun in their backpacks every day. They apparently don’t bring them to randomly shoot people.

80,000 high schools, maybe 20 psycho mass shooting in the last 20 years. For any given location that translates to one such shooting every 1,600,000 school years (80,000 x 20). OF COURSE I support secure schools and armed LEOs on campus, I just dont worry so much about mass shootings.

80,000 high schools in America, if even 20,000 of those meet the big and urban criteria, I would confidently guess that there’s gonna be at least that many kids with guns on campus every day across America. Like I said, they must not be bringing them to randomly shoot people. Maybe they know if they do use them on campus they’re gonna get caught.

Would I carry on campus? I dunno. I do carry most everywhere else. After 30+ years in an urban school I can say that I am many, many times more likely to end up on the floor during the course of intervening in a fight than I am to need a gun. So whatever I use it had better be some sort of retention holster, preferably in some place where I ain’t likely to land on it in a fall.

Also, seeing the same 100+ keen eyed students every day in the same classroom through the school year, wherever you would carry on your person it had better be really well concealed.

Also, since you would be carrying to proactively engage a shooting in progress, what sort of handgun would you choose? Pocket pistols ain’t likely to cut it.

Do I support the right of teachers to carry? Yes because despite dire predictions no major problems have emerged so far where it is legal. Be aware tho that guns WILL be dropped, forgotten etc etc on occasion same as Cops do. You carry on campus, you assume that liability.

Also, you might be among hordes of panicking kids as well as be encountering first responders arriving. I’d want training.

When I REALLY would like to carry is every time I ride my bicycle home from school 🥴