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This was the first pandemic where its severity was defined by the number of "cases" rather than the number of hospitalizations.
The cases where defined by a positive result from a test that the originator claimed was not suitable for the task. A test which was run at such a high rate of cycles that it delivered a significant number of false positives. A test which would return a positive from a person who had recovered and now possessed natural immunity. A test which was marketed continuously through government and media telling healthy people to "get tested, even if you don't feel ill" further driving up the number of cases.
It was a scam and we should never forget what happened.
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There was no reason to wait years. We have proven vaccines for a lot of illnesses. Many of those illnesses are very similar. Covid initially was just a much more deadly strain of the Flu. It didn't take much to tweak existing Flu vaccines to match Covid. Taking the vaccine early was the right call. The disease was far worse than any side effects from the vaccine. The Covid virus has morphed in the last 4 years and is no longer nearly as deadly as it was initially. I don't regret at all taking the vaccine when I did, but I'm not sure it's necessary at this point. Covid isn't as bad now and the vaccine was developed for the strain of Covid that started nearly 5 years ago.
Concerns over the dangers of the vaccine are grossly overstated. If you introduce ANYTHING into your body it can kill you. We have athletes die every year in the south because they got overheated and drank too much water. The water dilutes the electrolytes in your blood and the heart will no longer beat. That is what killed my Father-in-Law 20 years ago.
There have been a handful of people who were allergic to the vaccine and didn't know it and those people had issues. No doubt some died. But far more people die every year in this country because they ate a peanut, honey, or sea food and didn't know they were allergic to it. Wow. Its mind boggling how dumb you are You e stated that cnn and left wing Drudge Report are good news sources CNN post over 2000 articles that Trump colluded with Russia and the hunter Biden computer was false Seriously how can clueless boomers be so dumb and clueless. WTF are you doing on a firearms forum when you support firearms bans and confiscations? Do you have boomer dementia? Serious question
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There was no reason to wait years. We have proven vaccines for a lot of illnesses. Many of those illnesses are very similar. Covid initially was just a much more deadly strain of the Flu. It didn't take much to tweak existing Flu vaccines to match Covid. Taking the vaccine early was the right call. The disease was far worse than any side effects from the vaccine. The Covid virus has morphed in the last 4 years and is no longer nearly as deadly as it was initially. I don't regret at all taking the vaccine when I did, but I'm not sure it's necessary at this point. Covid isn't as bad now and the vaccine was developed for the strain of Covid that started nearly 5 years ago.
Concerns over the dangers of the vaccine are grossly overstated. If you introduce ANYTHING into your body it can kill you. We have athletes die every year in the south because they got overheated and drank too much water. The water dilutes the electrolytes in your blood and the heart will no longer beat. That is what killed my Father-in-Law 20 years ago.
There have been a handful of people who were allergic to the vaccine and didn't know it and those people had issues. No doubt some died. But far more people die every year in this country because they ate a peanut, honey, or sea food and didn't know they were allergic to it. Wow. Its mind boggling how dumb you are You e stated that cnn and left wing Drudge Report are good news sources CNN post over 2000 articles that Trump colluded with Russia and the hunter Biden computer was false Seriously how can clueless boomers be so dumb and clueless. WTF are you doing on a firearms forum when you support firearms bans and confiscations? Do you have boomer dementia? Serious question He is a dumb Azz for sure and certain but don't assume that he is a boomer "What are the serious harms of the COVID vaccine? To date, the systems in place to monitor the safety of these vaccines have found two serious types of adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination. The two serious adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination currently used in the United States are anaphylaxis and myocarditis or pericarditis.Feb 12, 2024"
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I am still a pure blood and will remain as such
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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I would like to see the montage of athletes, vaxtads, and celebrities tipping over.
Kinda gratifying when they wanted to jail us. FOAD.
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I have never had a flu shot, didn't see a need for the covid jab. I have not had the flu or a bad cold since 1989. I have not been sick in that period except for an occasional sinus infection or allergies.
God bless Texas-----------------------
Old 300
I will remain what i am until the day I die- A HUNTER......Sitting Bull
Its not how you pick the booger..
but where you put it !!
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I can't understand not trusting the MSM and the .gov on everything BUT the vax. That makes no sense.
One thing is true - all you need to do is make people scared and they suddenly get in line for the box cars. End of the day, for all the bluster and pontificating - when the .gov comes to round you up, to "re-educate you" in the theories of BLM and the Democratic Socialist way - you'll cry but you'll comply.
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There was no reason to wait years. We have proven vaccines for a lot of illnesses. Many of those illnesses are very similar. Covid initially was just a much more deadly strain of the Flu. It didn't take much to tweak existing Flu vaccines to match Covid. Taking the vaccine early was the right call. The disease was far worse than any side effects from the vaccine. The Covid virus has morphed in the last 4 years and is no longer nearly as deadly as it was initially. I don't regret at all taking the vaccine when I did, but I'm not sure it's necessary at this point. Covid isn't as bad now and the vaccine was developed for the strain of Covid that started nearly 5 years ago.
Concerns over the dangers of the vaccine are grossly overstated. If you introduce ANYTHING into your body it can kill you. We have athletes die every year in the south because they got overheated and drank too much water. The water dilutes the electrolytes in your blood and the heart will no longer beat. That is what killed my Father-in-Law 20 years ago.
There have been a handful of people who were allergic to the vaccine and didn't know it and those people had issues. No doubt some died. But far more people die every year in this country because they ate a peanut, honey, or sea food and didn't know they were allergic to it. Saying youre a dumbass without saying youre a dumbass
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I am still a pure blood and will remain as such Amen!!
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If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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I just decided that I could live with the risk of Covid verses the unknown long term risk of the vaccine. By the time the shots came around the Covid risks were pretty well known. So, I got Covid a few times, the first time I was pretty miserable. But Covid isn’t a thing anymore and I don’t have to worry about any long term effects of the vax. So I feel pretty good about my choice.
I do know about half a dozen people who died within a day of getting it or developed conditions they blame on the shot.
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If you work 40 hrs/wk: at 5% inflation and after 5 years, you need a 28% pay raise or to work 44 more hours (*one full extra week* per month+) to make up the difference.
This is inflation
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One thing is true - all you need to do is make people scared and they suddenly get in line for the box cars. You can bet their government did not tell those people they were taking them somewhere in those box cars to gas them and incinerate their bodies. And our government will never tell us they have to reduce the population. They will just do it. This was a trial run.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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The Cleveland Clinic and Mayo Clinic advise us to take the vax.
Some grumpy old men on the Internet advise otherwise.
Who ya gonna believe? My own critical thinking the God gave me.
"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country."
Robert E. Lee
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The Cleveland Clinic and Mayo Clinic advise us to take the vax.
Some grumpy old men on the Internet advise otherwise.
Who ya gonna believe? My own critical thinking the God gave me. +1
"Drop that or by the splendor of God I will blow your heart out." Kit Carson
"Make sure you are doing what God wants you to do then do it with all your strength." George Washington
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Nothing about this exercise in extreme government and corporate OVERREACH was fun but it does serve as a good reminder of how tyranny unchecked can destroy even the most well-meaning and ignorant alike. There are many who spinelessly caved in to fear and they are still compelled to “tow the party line” lest they admit their spineless capitulation for all to see. Others are more honest and introspective about their inability to stand tall, they admit that they caved in and regret doing so. The rest of us don’t have to make excuses, regurgitate bullshit propaganda or pretend we’re still free men because we refused to be unconstitutionally coerced or bribed into their human trials….we remain purebloods and we are rightfully proud to have, at least temporarily, shaken off the chains of tyranny. Nobody who refused the fake vaccine regrets their decision while the rest do regret it….or they will regret it later. Anyone who thinks they did the right thing by capitulating to extortion is either a liar or a cuckhold…likely both!
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
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The Cleveland Clinic and Mayo Clinic advise us to take the vax.
Some grumpy old men on the Internet advise otherwise.
Who ya gonna believe? My own critical thinking the God gave me. "A man’s got to know his limitations." -Inspector "Dirty" Harry Callahan
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" -Isaac Asimov
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There was no reason to wait years. We have proven vaccines for a lot of illnesses. Many of those illnesses are very similar. Covid initially was just a much more deadly strain of the Flu. It didn't take much to tweak existing Flu vaccines to match Covid. Taking the vaccine early was the right call. The disease was far worse than any side effects from the vaccine. The Covid virus has morphed in the last 4 years and is no longer nearly as deadly as it was initially. I don't regret at all taking the vaccine when I did, but I'm not sure it's necessary at this point. Covid isn't as bad now and the vaccine was developed for the strain of Covid that started nearly 5 years ago.
Concerns over the dangers of the vaccine are grossly overstated. If you introduce ANYTHING into your body it can kill you. We have athletes die every year in the south because they got overheated and drank too much water. The water dilutes the electrolytes in your blood and the heart will no longer beat. That is what killed my Father-in-Law 20 years ago.
There have been a handful of people who were allergic to the vaccine and didn't know it and those people had issues. No doubt some died. But far more people die every year in this country because they ate a peanut, honey, or sea food and didn't know they were allergic to it. Saying youre a dumbass without saying youre a dumbass Ain't that the truth. He said "It didn't take much to tweak existing Flu vaccines to match Covid". I don't know much about vaccines but he sure doesn't. The Covid vaccine used the mRNA technology that the old style vaccines didn't. The old vaccines put a weakened or inactive virus or bacteria into the system to stimulate antibodies. I have read about how the mRNA "vaccines'' work and how safe they are but I know too many people that came down with ugly heart issues, palsies, and other unexpected maladies (including death for 3) after being shot up. My brother's Democrat liberal wife insisted he get shot 3 times and now he has had all kinds of heart issues. First it was AFIB, then his heart got really slow one morning and I had to take him to a cardiac unit. The other night he came by and my RN wife checked his BP which was very low. I'll take my chances without the wonder jab.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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