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A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.


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'concealed'

Just that.....


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They can’t prohibit you from carrying your legal weapon in your suitcase and having it in your room. Your suitcase and room is legally considered your “home” from what I remember.
Someone can correct me on this.

Of course, I don’t want to give my money to any business that thinks this way anyway. They will use their profits to fight against your God given rights.

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Should anything like that happen to me........................

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In Texas, a hotel cannot prevent you from carrying a concealed firearm in your room or in direct route to your room.


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Yup

Got the same thing when we stayed up north to visit wife's cousin.

Fúck em, I carried

No other vacancies nearby


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Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

Just wondering how they know this?


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That’s interesting. We have stayed in one on the way home from Florida once and I don’t think they had that policy then (2021).

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Just one of the many reasons that we travel with our rv and almost “never” rent a motel room.

Our rv is a “ very” firearm friendly environment! memtb


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

Just wondering how they know this?

Color me perplexed as well IB


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Just because I like to check things, and figuring it might be the individual HI Express you were dealing with, I checked.

at least in 2018 this was the case for Holiday Inn places

https://www.concealedcarry.com/safety/concealed-carry-laws-and-tactics-for-hotels/

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HG Hotels Gun Policy (Holiday Inn, Crowne Plaza, Avid, Staybridge, Candlewood, Hotel Indigio, EVEN Hotels, Kimptom, Hualuxe, Intercontinental Hotels & Resorts,

IHG does not have a system-wide policy regarding the ability to carry firearms on property at IHG branded hotels. Rather, we believe this decision is a local one that rests with our franchisees, the overwhelming majority of which do not have policies prohibiting firearms at their hotels. In those specific instances, a guest would be advised of this policy during the reservation process. (Email received Aug 8th 2018)


But, there is conflicting reporting out there too. I tend to not want to stay in a place unarmed in some sort of fashion. My job prevented me from carrying for a few years on the boats/barges, so when I was unloaded away from home and had to stay at a place all I had available was a knife........but that was not my preferred choice. Now, just like in some other businesses, I just take my chances with them finding out.


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Why would you even ask the hotel?

Staying in a state where its legal to do so - do so. Like asking the cop for a breathalyzer when pulled over for speeding because "I had a couple of beers and don't want to be over" - why would you EVER invite the scrutiny?


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And if they find out, do you go to Holiday Inn jail? LOL!
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Originally Posted by ironbender
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A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

Just wondering how they know this?

They (HIE) wouldn't know if you were carrying unless you were sloppy about it. Most likely the policy is there to CYA their azz just in case a bad shooting happens. In that case, HIE can say that person had a firearm against our policy and we have no liability associated with this incident. HIE policy doesn't trump law and if it is legal for you to have a firearm there and in a concealed manner then I would carry on as usual.


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Policy? Good Lord.


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You can only assume they want you dead if attacked. I wouldn't go there either.

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Originally Posted by Raeford
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Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.
Just wondering how they know this?
Color me perplexed as well IB
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Originally Posted by ironbender
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Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.
Just wondering how they know this?
Color me perplexed as well IB
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Originally Posted by Teal
Why would you even ask the hotel?

Staying in a state where its legal to do so - do so. Like asking the cop for a breathalyzer when pulled over for speeding because "I had a couple of beers and don't want to be over" - why would you EVER invite the scrutiny?

Same reason we are about to loose our Nation.

Ignorance and fear.


America is (supposed to be) a Republic, NOT a democracy. Learn the difference, help end the lie. Fear a government that fears your guns.
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Originally Posted by RAM
Originally Posted by Teal
Why would you even ask the hotel?

Staying in a state where its legal to do so - do so. Like asking the cop for a breathalyzer when pulled over for speeding because "I had a couple of beers and don't want to be over" - why would you EVER invite the scrutiny?

Same reason we are about to loose our Nation.

Ignorance and fear.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
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Originally Posted by Teal
Why would you even ask the hotel?

Staying in a state where its legal to do so - do so. Like asking the cop for a breathalyzer when pulled over for speeding because "I had a couple of beers and don't want to be over" - why would you EVER invite the scrutiny?

Same reason we are about to loose our Nation.

Ignorance and fear.


Would be a terrabull loose

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Originally Posted by ironbender
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A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

Just wondering how they know this?


Several states just passed laws preventing Credit card companies from tracking firearms purchases.


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I don’t work for the Stalinist companies who impose such bullshit restrictions and I don’t read their POLICIES. Their POLICIES end where my rights begin. I don’t advertise what I’m carrying and I don’t give afuck if they approve or not. The Constitution is what guides me NOT some mealy mouthed bullshit, unconstitutional hotel policy! ymmv


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Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
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Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

Just wondering how they know this?


Several states just passed laws preventing Credit card companies from tracking firearms purchases.

I pay cash for firearms. Anyone who uses a credit card and then complains when they get a knock on their door in the future can’t say they haven’t been warned or they didn’t see it coming!


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Must be a local thing. I just looked at my last two confirmations from a month ago with HI Express and no mention of any issue with firearms.


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Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

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Originally Posted by North_to_Alaska
They can’t prohibit you from carrying your legal weapon in your suitcase and having it in your room. Your suitcase and room is legally considered your “home” from what I remember.
Someone can correct me on this.

Of course, I don’t want to give my money to any business that thinks this way anyway. They will use their profits to fight against your God given rights.

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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
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Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

Just wondering how they know this?


Several states just passed laws preventing Credit card companies from tracking firearms purchases.

I pay cash for firearms. Anyone who uses a credit card and then complains when they get a knock on their door in the future can’t say they haven’t been warned or they didn’t see it coming!

And anyone who pays cash and gets the knock - shouldn't be surprised either. Paying cash doesn't get you under the radar. 4473 is a record, any hunting license you've ever bought is a record etc.

Not poking you - just saying the reality is, there's no way to actually avoid the list if you're involved in any way. Heck participation here is gonna get you on it. Better people prepare and act like they've no place or way to hide so we all take the threat much more seriously.


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Originally Posted by Raeford
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Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.
Just wondering how they know this?
Color me perplexed as well IB
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Originally Posted by Teal
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

Just wondering how they know this?


Several states just passed laws preventing Credit card companies from tracking firearms purchases.

I pay cash for firearms. Anyone who uses a credit card and then complains when they get a knock on their door in the future can’t say they haven’t been warned or they didn’t see it coming!

And anyone who pays cash and gets the knock - shouldn't be surprised either. Paying cash doesn't get you under the radar. 4473 is a record, any hunting license you've ever bought is a record etc.

Not poking you - just saying the reality is, there's no way to actually avoid the list if you're involved in any way. Heck participation here is gonna get you on it. Better people prepare and act like they've no place or way to hide so we all take the threat much more seriously.

No I know you aren’t and I also know that you’re correct about never really NOT being on their radar. The ATF lost 10+ years of 4473’s that I sent to them after I closed my shop. They wanted me to send them anything I had that could help them recover the information including my memory sticks that I used for backup of the computers. I was required to keep the 4473’s and send them in when the business closed but that’s as far as my obligations extended, I wasn’t required to help them fix their mistakes or fill in the blanks for things they screwed up. I have less than ZERO respect for those asswipes and considering they weren’t friends with us FFL holders I told them to pound sand as I could NOT and WOULD NOT assist them further. During 1 audit of several years worth of 4473’s they got us on 1 mistake…on January 2nd I’d mistakenly put the previous year since we were only 2 days into the new year…everything else in the hundreds and hundreds (maybe thousands) of 4473’s was correct and they wanted to be dick heads about a minor clerical error so I wouldn’t have helped them for any reason. The dick head I spoke to who was asking for my help asked why I didn’t want to help them so I simply said that I didn’t trust them nor was I inclined to cut them any slack since they don’t extend that decency to us. I told him that they fu.cked up and lost 10 years of 4473’, I have the receipt for the 12+ boxes and hundreds of dollars in UPS shipping and my responsibility to them was OVER. He was annoyed by my lack of help and by my absence of respect which gave me great pleasure!

I know from having dealt with the ATF for 15+ years that they are NOT our friends, they are NOT good people and they are NOT in the slightest bit trustworthy…. I wouldn’t piss on the ATF if they were on fire and I damn sure ain’t “helping” them with something they will just use against my former customers. Fu.ck the ATF with a football bat..😂


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Originally Posted by RAM
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Why would you even ask the hotel?

Staying in a state where its legal to do so - do so. Like asking the cop for a breathalyzer when pulled over for speeding because "I had a couple of beers and don't want to be over" - why would you EVER invite the scrutiny?

Same reason we are about to loose our Nation.

Ignorance and fear.

You are fearful?

You are ignorant?

Dang shame bout dat.


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We stayerd in a number of them over the yrs going on hog hunts. carried in long guns sidearms and ammo . did not want to leave anything in the trucks. always have 3 or 4 truck loads of guys .


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Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

Fugg em. I traveled 2x this year to hunt requiring a hotel stay. Not leaving my rifle in the car, so I will carry it in.

If I can't, then I will stay elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Raeford
'concealed'

Just that.....
BOOM!

YOUR right of self-defense does not end at the door...


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I think lots of you guys are not getting why I posted this.

It's not, "I can carry if I want to". It is informing those who don't want their money going to an American hating company.


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I think lots of you guys are not getting why I posted this.

It's not, "I can carry if I want to". It is informing those who don't want their money going to an American hating company.


How did they know that you planned to?


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A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

Just wondering how they know this?

with the left, you don't think this isn't just a shotgun approach to the general public.

If you ignore and don't show a reaction of shock, how are they going to know you have one with you, on your person or in your vehicle.. unless you are a real idiot about it.


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Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
Originally Posted by Ringman
I think lots of you guys are not getting why I posted this.

It's not, "I can carry if I want to". It is informing those who don't want their money going to an American hating company.


How did they know that you planned to?


I not talking about whether I carry or not. The policy info came to my email with the confirmation #.


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"Fugg'em !"

You do that by NOT giving them money (and being sure to tell them why).
Paying them in spite of stupid policies isn't "Fugg'ing" 'em, it's paying someone to try to "fugg" you.

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Originally Posted by Ringman
I think lots of you guys are not getting why I posted this.

It's not, "I can carry if I want to". It is informing those who don't want their money going to an American hating company.

It doesn't appear to be a HIE Corporate policy but a locally owned HEI policy, maybe letting all know where this exact HEI is located would help your[our] cause.


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Originally Posted by Ringman
I think lots of you guys are not getting why I posted this.

It's not, "I can carry if I want to". It is informing those who don't want their money going to an American hating company.

Interesting how you clump corporate with the everyday workers. Stayed in one in downtown SLC had a sign on the door stating no guns, asked the clerk about it he stated “ that’s corporate policy not ours. If i dont see it you havent got it. Then he stated “Dont go into that park across the street after dark unarmed, bad place”.



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a bunch of us (23) guys went to Buffalo Wild Wings and ordered food and beer, when the food was arriving at our table the manager informed us they dont allow firearms on the property, he must of seen or someone told him, well we where all carry concealed, so we all got up and walked out as we werent taking them off.

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Originally Posted by steveredd1
a bunch of us (23) guys went to Buffalo Wild Wings and ordered food and beer, when the food was arriving at our table the manager informed us they dont allow firearms on the property, he must of seen or someone told him, well we where all carry concealed, so we all got up and walked out as we werent taking them off.

A restraunt up in Omaha wasnt as nice. They waited until the guy drank some beer then called the police. Zero tolerance.

You can concealed carry in the restaurant area of an eatery that serves alcohol with a Nebraska concealed carry permit or a permit/license from a state that Nebraska honors, unless posted and provided you consume no alcohol. However, concealed carry is not allowed in bars or the bar areas of restaurants



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Originally Posted by cas6969
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"Fugg'em !"

You do that by NOT giving them money (and being sure to tell them why).
Paying them in spite of stupid policies isn't "Fugg'ing" 'em, it's paying someone to try to "fugg" you.

I agree

I would not try to sneak in rifles.

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That policy would have no weight in Kentucky if you possess a CDWL, if you were found out to have a firearm and they called LE the only thing you could end up with is a $25 fine that doesn’t effect your license.

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I spent two nights in one this week and received no such notice.
I was in CA where law abiding citizens carrying firearms isn’t quite as common as some other places.

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I was driving on a hunting trip and had reservations to stay the night in Mitchell, SD. There was a sign in the parking lot, "Do not leave firearms unattended in vehicle.". On the way out the door after I registered there was a sign that said, "No firearms in room."
I figured I had to keep my rifles somewhere. I took them in the room with me.

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Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.

Where were you staying?

I have stayed in HIE's over the years and have never seen any such notification. Makes me wonder if this is a corporately owned or franchised property.


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Tom Bodett ain't give a fugk about guns.

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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
[Where were you staying?

I have stayed in HIE's over the years and have never seen any such notification. Makes me wonder if this is a corporately owned or franchised property.

I didn't stay. I called for reservations. When the confirmation came to my email the notice was included. I cancelled and re-registered in another place after I found out the new place doesn't hate America.


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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.
Where were you staying?

I have stayed in HIE's over the years and have never seen any such notification. Makes me wonder if this is a corporately owned or franchised property.
Someone posted above that HIE leaves that to the franchisee.

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Originally Posted by ironbender
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Originally Posted by Ringman
A heads up for my .com friends.

Made a reservation at Holiday Inn Express. When the confirmation came to my email, they informed me they do not allow ANY guns on their property. No concealed and no open carry. I called them to cancel and gave the reason: They don't care about their employees or customers. The "bad" guys don't care about their policy and would love a place like that where no one can defend themselves.
Where were you staying?

I have stayed in HIE's over the years and have never seen any such notification. Makes me wonder if this is a corporately owned or franchised property.
Someone posted above that HIE leaves that to the franchisee.

Ringy
What town was this in?

Springfield, OR


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Putting that in maps, I see it’s right by Eugene, so I guess it shouldn’t be too big a surprise.

Glad u found a better franchisee.


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Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by steveredd1
a bunch of us (23) guys went to Buffalo Wild Wings and ordered food and beer, when the food was arriving at our table the manager informed us they dont allow firearms on the property, he must of seen or someone told him, well we where all carry concealed, so we all got up and walked out as we werent taking them off.

A restraunt up in Omaha wasnt as nice. They waited until the guy drank some beer then called the police. Zero tolerance.

You can concealed carry in the restaurant area of an eatery that serves alcohol with a Nebraska concealed carry permit or a permit/license from a state that Nebraska honors, unless posted and provided you consume no alcohol. However, concealed carry is not allowed in bars or the bar areas of restaurants


funny thing about this is at least 17 where LEO, he kicked us out so we left

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Many of you are missing the point. He didn't ask. He was told.
A business that advertises their business as a gun free zone is a soft target. Best to avoid soft targets. Especially when you plan to strip down and go to sleep there.


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