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I firmly believe that the 6.8 SPC is far underrated for low recoil vs on game performance and efficiency. Some 120gr SSTs or 110 S&B PTS, and it’ll do all I ever did with many other case/bullet combos, to 300 with far less recoil and muzzle blast. Nothing wrong with the Grendel, 223, 300, or others, but my anecdotal experience always kept me coming back around to the 6.8.
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I love my 6.8 too. Loaded up with 95gr TTSX it hits hard. I just wish I could find one of the M77 compacts that Ruger made in that chambering a while back.
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30 grains of 4198 or RL 7, will make about any rifle that's been around for a long time, into an equivalent of the good old 30/30, but with spitzer bullets....
30 grains in a 260, using any bullet weight, will equal my 6.5 Grendal using ANY bullet with a charge of 29 grains of W 748.
you can pick a round... OR pick a caliber and bullet weight, and then the appropriate powder. and get the same velocity with your powder choice....
ya don't need an 06 with a full power load to take down a deer.
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I firmly believe that the 6.8 SPC is far underrated for low recoil vs on game performance and efficiency. Some 120gr SSTs or 110 S&B PTS, and it’ll do all I ever did with many other case/bullet combos, to 300 with far less recoil and muzzle blast. Nothing wrong with the Grendel, 223, 300, or others, but my anecdotal experience always kept me coming back around to the 6.8. Once the new house is done I hope to shoot the 6.8 upper and start working on a load for this fall.
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I firmly believe that the 6.8 SPC is far underrated for low recoil vs on game performance and efficiency. Some 120gr SSTs or 110 S&B PTS, and it’ll do all I ever did with many other case/bullet combos, to 300 with far less recoil and muzzle blast. Nothing wrong with the Grendel, 223, 300, or others, but my anecdotal experience always kept me coming back around to the 6.8. I'm a big fan of both the 6.8 and Legend in AR and bolt versions.
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That would be my vote. I just loaded up some 130 grain soft points to go 2500 fps. Someone said it, you don't need a lot of speed. But, it's Iowa, I may never get to use it for deer. kwg
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i got a TC Contender with a 10" barrel in 30 Herrett. i will use a 130gr Speer HP with Reloder 7 and it will be 1900+/-fps. talk about light recoiling. it will be my deer gun this year. my dad (RIP) had a 14" muzzle brake barrel in 7-30 Waters with a 115gr Speer HP and IMR4895 that goes 2200+/-fps and it just smoked deer.
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one of the largest blacktails I've taken here in Oregon, weighed 210 pounds on the hoof.
Shot it with a 7 mm Mauser in a Model 70 Featherweight, with a load of 28 grs of SR 4759 and a 115 grain Speer HP.
A heart shot, and it dropped like a sack of potatoes. Light load so easy to place the shot. That bullet did its job perfectly.
many folks would overlook it...In its parameters tho, its deadly.
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Seems like 22Creedmoor would be a stellar low recoil cartridge especially with a Limbsaver
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Dwayne,
The regular 250, even loaded to nearly 3000 fps with 100 grain bullets, does seem to have a milder report than similarly loaded 243s I've been around. I suppose the combustion products of 35 grains of H4895 coming out of a 25 cal hole make a smaller ruckus than those from 41 grains of 4350 out of a 24 cal hole.
My best to you and yours,
m So load a 243 with 35 grains of H 4895 and a 100 grain bullet....then all you are giving up is 1/100th an inch of bullet diameter.
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What's our thoughts on a bolt action Ruger 6mm Arc? something like, found in this link. https://www.dancessportinggoods.com...eaded-barrel-tan-black-speckle-10-round/Would there be a comparable, 5 round mag available for the Ruger Gen II?
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My kids started with .243/80 grain Barnes TTSX, worked great.
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It’s an AR/Ruger Mini-based magazine, so yes. Cycling is rougher on bolt guns fed from magazines designed for semiautomatic use, vs magazines originally designed for bolt guns. Just something to be aware of for young kids/starter use. The Ruger is likely offered in all the same chambering in the Predator and standard lines, with their rotary magazine of 3-4 rounds. There can be more muzzle blast in larger cases with smaller bores, and shorter stocks and barrels put this closer to a new shooter….even with the 243. Smaller cases with less powder have something going for them there.
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Seems our options are greater than ever before. What's your preferred low recoil deer cartridge. Options that I am thinking of include the following
.223 with a good bullet for the application at hand.
7.62 x 39 " "
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6mm ARC " " my personal favorite
6.5Grendel " "
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350 legend CZ 527 in 7.62x39 OR a classic .243. No need for anything new. The .22 options are excellent these days, but they are not legal for deer in my state.
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A vote for the 6.5 grendel... gun hardly moves when shot... Great effective round. PLus being in the AR platform, it is very adjustable for smaller frame people
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A 243 or 30-30. The 243 for just enough and the 30-30 just because of its history. Not saying the 30-30 is a hard kicker but I never thought of it as low recoil myself. About the same as a .243 in equal weight rifles. It's a pussy cat in a Marlin 336. The narrow butt and light weight of the Winchester 94 accentuates recoil but is still far from abusive.
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350 Legend for me with 150 gr Winchester Deer Season XP. It works great.
I shot a deer one time with the 300 Blackout using 110 gr Barnes TTSX. I thought I lost that deer. The SOB ran about 400 yards. Luckily it died out in the middle of the field or it would have been lost. I'll never do that again.
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