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Hi all,
I need to put together some new arrows. I've been shooting Beeman ICS Hunter 400s with 4 inch vanes and 125 grain heads (Slick Tricks). I've heard good things about Blazers, so might try the same setup with them. My current groups are about baseball sized at 30 yards and paper plate sized at 40 yards with broadheads. Would I gain anything in going to the Blazers, or should I stick with what I have?
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I switched to the blazer shorties this year and love them. They are a little faster, and a helll of a lot durable. They seem to be a little stiffer, and alot more sturdier. I had to do a little re sightin in, but it was well worth it. I am also shooting the slick trick 125's.
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Ivebeen using them a couple years . I like them just fine. they are a little faster. I think your bow needs to be well tuned as should be . As they are a little less forgiving . I bet you will be pleased with them.
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I should have been more specific. I'm wondering whether Blazers would give better accuracy than 4 inch vanes, all else being equal. What was your experience in making the switch?
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The true answer is it really depends. You can get more helical on longer vanes which can generate additional arrow rotation and more consistent arrow flight, however if your bow is tuned properly this should not be an issue.
Blazers will give you better accuracy over the long haul because they are stronger and less likely to structurally fail (tear, deform, etc). Also, since they are smaller, the fletchings offer less area for contact with a bow's arrow rest.
My experience suggests that bows that are setup to use arrows with straight or normal helicals and in-tune are good candidates for Blazer vanes.
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I should have been more specific. I'm wondering whether Blazers would give better accuracy than 4 inch vanes, all else being equal. Vanes, any vane, will not make an arrow go where you didn't point it. Blazers are an excellent product, and from a properly tuned bow, will shoot exceptionally well with a decent broadhead. But I don't think that size for size, there's a better vane than a Quick Spin.
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Not sure. I tried them on my field points and they were fine. Slick Tricks and Magnsu SS Snuffers seemed OK. But for a bigger broadhead like a Magnus 150 grain Snuffer...... >>>- _ - _ - __ -> they were all over the place. Phantoms 125... not good either. With 5" feathers the Magnus were fine. 4" vanes seem to stabilise all the other broadheads. Even paper tuning did not change the large Magnus erratic flight with the Blazers.
Every TV show I watch and they show the guys vanes, I try to see what broadhead is on the other end. Seems most guys that use Blazers are mechanical shooters.
I will agree on one thing. Much less forgiving. If you want a stiffer 4", they make them for Wisker Biscuit rests.
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Hi all,
Thanks for all the input! I think I'll stick with the 4" vanes.
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Blazers are high profile vanes. I can't use them on my Bowtech because they hit my cables. I shoot 3" Quickspins and they have given me the best improvement in accuracy of any new product I've tried. They really seem to work, The old ones have a black kicker on the vane, the new ones are all one color.
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I have gone to Blazers on all my arrows. I shoot Easton Axis FMJ's thru a Wisker Biscuit rest, and find that the Blazers show none of the tendency to ripple or crinkle the vanes. They also stabilize my 100 gr. Muzzy broadheads nicely.
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Im running them out of a Bow Tech Guardian, and I have no problems with them clearing the cables. I shot them off of a drop away rest. My hunting partner is running them out of a Mathews Drenalin, and the Phantom 125, and has no problem with them shooting well. The only reason that I switched if for the durablility. They dont seem to crinkle if one of them gets smashed in the bow case, and they just seem so hold up alot better then the longer thinner vanes. IMHO
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I use Blazer's becaues I use a Whisker Biscuit. The WB destroys reagular vanes. The Blazers are tough as hell. If I were you I'd try them. Fletch a half dozen arrows and see how your setup dose. If the out come is good than use em..
I know one thing. You refletch your arrows alot less with Blazers. Tough. Don't wrinkle.
I also use wraps. Stick a blazer on a wrap and it may never come off.
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You want to try something really cool try a FOB www.starrflight.com you need a drop away rest bet these suckers really fly and truly are a better mouse trap, check em out
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Shooting Blazers through a Biscuit mounted on a Bowtech Patriot and love them. No cable clearance issues; but mine is a single cam; not sure if there are cable issues with the Dualies.
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Another thing to consider is that the blazers are much easier to fletch onto a carbon arrow. Why not try them out, if they don't work for you then go back to the 4" vanes.
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