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Sure, some do. Is there a point there?

Funny thing, my understanding is that union publicly endorsed Sleepy Joe over Trump. I guess they thought good ole Joe wouldn't do anything to harm them even though he said he would.

Far as I am concerned, they got exactly what they deserved.


https://www.politico.com/newsletter...up-pipeline-workers-union-backing-790000

You assume that The Union actually gives a Schit about its members.

Unions don’t need Government help shutting down American manufacturing and mining, they have a very good track record of doing that all on their own.

To use your concealed carry weapon, in most states, one must be in fear of death or serious bodily injury.

Not so with unions!

If a striking union worker feels you are imperiling his/her job, they can kill the offending non-union worker!

Don't believe me?

Look up the "Enmons Decision".
A union picket walker shot and killed a non-union dump truck driver crossing the picket line!
The shooter was charged with "obstructing a public thoroughfare" because the truck didn't clear the highway when the driver died! That's all! 🤯

The Enmons Decision is an offshoot of the Hobbs Act (1934).

The Hobbs Act, which makes it a federal crime to obstruct interstate commerce by robbery or extortion, does not reach the use of violence (which is readily punishable under state law) to achieve legitimate union objectives.

For the Union guys. Serious observation that I'd like a response to.
1. you are in the union
2. your union supports Biden/democrat's and their policies
3. therefore you support Biden/democrat's and their policies

How is there any other way to look at it? If you don't support your Union's policies, what do you do to try and change them?

The PACs are set aside money for political use.
Collected as such.

Consider it a beer fund.
From a side job you have to have because you can’t buy beer with your income.

It doesn’t free up wage earnings, because you couldn’t use them to buy beer.

My money does not go to the PAC.
About the only consolation I get, when they
“ Speak for tens of thousands of members”


Not sure how they know what we might want to say?
They sure as hell have never ask!



Often wish I was the type with the knowledge and ability to start a reform movement.
It would probably take off.
But then I’d commit suicide or get killed in a bungled robbery.


I
Am
Not
Suicidal!

Most places that anyone shops at accomplishes that.

What is the remedy? Quit working union? Forget the pension and benefits and just accept scrap wages so that at least it ain't going to a Democrat.

I'm a member of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers, my union falls under the umbrella of the Teamsters. I used to be UTU until I promoted to engineer. I've been in a labor union since 2012 when I hired out on the railroad. Ever since I hired out the old guys who hired on before 1985 were staunch Democrats, saying I needed to vote my job.

So I started under Obama and currently under Biden, my best four years on the railroad was under Trump. The work was as much as we could handle, and until the plandemic with its supply chain issues slowed things down. This last year the guys that have hired on recently have a bleak future for work as Bidenomics is going to cause more damage than Covid.

The heads of the unions are just another political class who are out of touch with its constituents. So when I vote, I vote for whomever isn't the incumbent. I don't know if that's the right vote or not as we get so little info on the candidates outside of our regional level. However, I want to disrupt the status quo. The national unions aren't in favor of the workers anymore IMO, they're just another political ruling (lobbying) class that wants to rub elbows with DC elites for a photo OP.

So I vote my job like the old guys said to do, and I tell everyone the same. I vote for the person that says and will actually try to stimulate our economy. As I told the first "old head" who told me I sounded like a republican, "Without an economy I don't work, and if Obama is so great why did we put 200 coal trains in storage when I was less than a year on the job?" The company never did pull all those trains out of storage, and under Biden we've been parking even more.

So of course I'm going to vote my job, I'm going to vote for the candidate that wants me doing mine. I left the UTU union because the President brought up a vote that would remove the conductor's job from thru-freight trains. It failed thankfully, but I promoted and got the hell out. I never understood how reducing working conductors by 2/3 was good for anyone but the companies bottom line and more than likely some sort of kickback to the UTU president. It sure isn't good for a bloated top heavy union to cut its dues by 66%.

For the Charlotte NC guys. Serious observation that I'd like a response to.

1. you are in Charlotte NC and therefore in Mecklenburg County
2.Mecklenburg county supports Bide/democrat's and their policies
3. therefore you support Biden/democrat's and their policies.

How is there any other way to look at it? If you don't support your City/County's 's policies, what do you do to try and change them?


https://www.bestplaces.net/voting/city/north_carolina/charlotte

Will you stop with factual data and logic!?!

Makes me sick...

Yep, me too.

The shrinks have told me it's an obsessive compulsive thing with smart people.

Pssst, there is a Yuge difference between being a conservative while living in a liberal hell hole and claiming to be a conservative while sending monthly payments to the Democrat Party

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Pssst, while being a conservative living in a liberal hell hole is one paying taxes to the local Democratic administration to further their agenda? Shopping in places that send money to their local politicians. Owning a business with employees that vote D?

The sun rises in the east
Union leadership drives the vote and they will vote democrat. No doubt many will not, but enough to make a difference
Negroes always vote democrat (in the 90 percentile)
Jews practically the same ~ 85%

How about if the same person in a union makes personal donations to Republican candidates? I donate more to local and state candidates, nothing to the RNC but have sent Trump money. I have no choice but to be in a union if I want my job.

I could decide to take a non-union job or start a business, but the average income where I'm living is $28-32K per year. So not much support with a small buisness either around here. The average cost of a house is $250K. I earn 4X that with my job. It allowed my wife to stay home while rasing our daughter and not worry about the necessities. I only live 55 miles from my aging parents (83 & 78) as well, so I can help them often.

I don't agree 100% with the union and how they operate. I did need to feed, house, and put clothes on a family. As a man and a father it was my privilege and responsibility to do so. I've had to make some sacrifices to take care of those important to me, and tonprovide them opportunities they wouldn't of had otherwise.

I'm actually in Cabarrus Co, but even if I was in Meck Co your argument makes no sense. Nobody tells me who to vote for. I don't join any clubs to support Libs.

No one in any union I ever belonged to told me who to vote for.

Your experience, if you were ever a union worker, might have been different.

I’m a union member, have been since 1971: I voted for Trump both times, and I will again!!!!!!