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You haven't had a civil war yet.

The average American private sector employee made $40,000 five years ago. Today, he makes $40,000 a year and there are millions fewer jobs.

The average federal employee 5 years ago made $57,000 a year. Today he makes $71,000 a year plus he'll get a large pension that the average private sector emplyee will not.

This gap is actually 2 to 1 when you factor in the benefits of fed employment.

Are the federal employees more qualified? No

Americans will soon see this hit $80,000 a year for federal employees while their wages remain the same and unemployment and taxes rise to cover more govt costs.

I hope to see something much larger and more radical than the Tea Party organize to protest this specific issue.

State's problems are as bad. They are under funded by one trillion dollars on their pension programs and a typical case would be as one governor noted last week- an employee who contributed $124,000 to his pension yet will draw out 3.5 million, paid for by the taxpayer of course, or another who retires at age 49 after 30 years work at 90 % of his salary again on the dime of the taxpayer.

Most of the state's are broke and will try to tag the taxpayers. courtesy Beck

Civil War? Nope.

People don't want to go w/o electricity and A/C, refrigerated food, clean water, heat, conveniences, etc. for a couple of days much less a few months to change things. They prefer to watch TV and hope these issues will magically resolve themselves. That is those who weather these economic changes because they have jobs and/or were well off before.

The economy tanks further though and we could easily see riots from the poor's frustration, mainly those who once were middle class. The chronically poor are adapted but not the new poor. They've lost their possessions, income, and simply are fed up with the govt and the rich who were mostly responsible for their plight. Maybe not.

Well said !

Book it!!

14 years ago...

Utter genius...

the dems want it to happen. they want us,white people to attack the government or have a war with hyspanics. either way they would like to see a big chunk of white voters gone. as they keep taking our freedoms away and making you feel backed in a corner it becomes more likely to happen,

bottom line is ,TRUMP MUST WIN!

no civil war until the right to bear arms is curbed, as long as there are sports to watch and bet on, as long as government schools continue to hide the truth and indoctrinate the kids. Only folks in America now that would support a civil war are the old fellows, and they are dying off.

90% of the posters on this thread are dead now.

Well said indeed, and , the beat goes on deeper & deeper into debt.
She's gonna pop someday.

I don't see a Civil War, because I don't see how you'd pick the sides.

Blue State vs Red? OK. Blue gets the two coasts. Red has everything between. The Blue States are dependent on the Red for food. The Red also has more military power sitting on it.

Rural vs City? Again, the city people are wholly dependent on the rurals for food. What's more, they're surrounded by rurals. Rurals cut the flow of food and . . .

Whites vs Pick-your-Minority: Yeah, that's right. Pick a fight with the people who grow the most food and own most of the guns. Let's see how that turns out.

LGBTABCXYZETC vs Straights: I'd like to see that one.

Not a Civil War but we are in the Second American Revolution. We are breaking away from the Crown and Vatican under our return to the original Constitution of the Republic after Trump rejected the Corporate Act of 1871.

The NWO Globalists are fighting to regain control but the people are experiencing the Great Awakening and, unless real Dumbasses and Snowflakes, are looking forward to having freedom and a Constitution of, by and for We The People again.

Its going to be Biblical.

Majority of Americans have way too much to lose to want a civil war.

Who wants to live on a bombed out [bleep] with stock market at $5 and struggling to eat?

We're getting that now. No one wants war but war comes when people don't feel heard. BOTH sides of the aisle right now - don't feel heard by those in DC. So me/you/neighbor all feel like we're being slighted and DC will turn the ends against the middle so they're not the target.

The end of America will come - that's inevitable given our debt. Will there be a war at the end of it - I can't see a way we collapse without it. Can't easily think of another 270 year old empire that disappears without open conflict. Combine that with loss of reserve currency - people aren't going to simply sit and let that happen without voicing their displeasure with violence.

Wars evolve - it's why they never really look the same, especially if there's time in between.

Late Bronze age collapse is likely for us - in that regard.

Polls are pretty useless and misleading, but Rasmussen says this morning on Newsmax: 1 in 4 say a civil war is likely if Biden is re elected.
I doubt that..
One thing for sure, we have all seen what happens when local govt fails, Katrina ring any bells? In 24hrs, a true law of the jungle anarchy became the law of the land. I'm not talking just race here, I'm talking...every man for himself, in just 24 hours.
If the power grid goes down...deliberately or not...we will see a cascading, self feeding cycle of violence of Bibical proportions, it will not be any high minded, politically motivated civil outbreak...it will be survival instinct savagery. Politics will be the LAST thing on anybodies mind. There are only 3 things that matter when you come down to it...sustenance, personal safety, shelter...those priorities lurk just below the level of conscious thought in all of us, waiting.

The Revolutionary War was a civil war.

Biden's re-elected. Next July the grid goes down and we're about 4 days into it. Who do you think will get blamed? The savagery amps up - I guarantee you there will be some "revenge" taken out based on who people know voted for the wrong guy as they starve.

Right is going to take it out on the left because "they caused my suffering" - the left is going to take it out on the right because "they have more than me, I'm starving EBT ain't coming through".

Both will take it out on those who prepared or are unprepared to hide their own preparations from the have-nots. It's cool an all to have a generator running the house lights and freezer full of 1/2 a cow - until everyone notices you're the only guy on the block with lights and gaining weight. Are you prepared to defend yourself and what you have? Are you prepared to hide your excess/capabilities etc?

Ever noticed.
Communism.
And.
Food shortage famine.
Go together like peas and carrots?

Yes and as a society, we've forgotten that it's ok to kill commies. Now we give them "space" on campus. They are not just someone with a different POV that should be protected but the enemy that should be eradicated.

No.

Not a matter of if. But when!
Sh*t is brewing and sooner or later it will come to a head. People are getting tired of what is happening. Some states or areas are worse than others.
Like someone said , it will be more of a revolution vs. a civil war.