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This was the conclusion reached by a study that was conducted by Harvard Medical School scholar Nicholas G. Norwitz, Ph.D.

The baby boomers who have consumed the false notion,that if you develop symptoms,then you should take a pill prescribed by your doctor and you'll be healed,will be very disappointed.

Reversing the symptoms of diseases that plague western man,may be as simple as ceasing to engage in the activity which caused these symptoms.That is,stop consuming potentially toxic food,consume wholesome healthy food,consisting of fruits,vegetables and adequate levels of protein,engage in a proper exercise program and get respectable restorative sleep.


Pfizer’s cholesterol-lowering statin drug Lipitor is one of the most profitable medications of all time. Globally, the lucrative statin market is projected to reach $32 billion by 2032. Yet, for years, there have been published studies reporting that statin drugs lead to profound memory loss and diabetes, and, overall, are entirely worthless. As such, the studies have supplied the basis for reevaluating the guidelines for prescribing statins and theories on cholesterol in general. After all, cholesterol is essential to the human body—if you had none, you would be dead. The studies have likewise questioned why more focus isn’t put on maintaining good heart health through beneficial lifestyle habits instead of harmful statin medications. However, given the massive profits enjoyed by Big Pharma and physicians alike, questions are quelled, and statin prescriptions continue to increase. But alas—firmly revealing the absurdity of the scheme to keep Americans unhealthy on statins—a recent study published on January 22, 2024, has demonstrated that Nabisco’s toxic Oreo Cookies are two times more effective at lowering LDL cholesterol (the one they say is “bad”) than high-intensity statin drugs. Holy smokes… what?!

The eye-opening study on one of the most prescribed drugs in history and one of the nation’s most addictive junk foods was conducted by Harvard Medical School scholar Nicholas G. Norwitz, Ph.D., who is ketogenic and has high LDL (low-density lipoprotein) cholesterol. For context, many argue that LDL cholesterol is merely a surrogate marker, and prominent cardiologists are increasingly questioning its causative role in the development of heart disease. With that in mind, to prove the ineffectiveness of statins and the over-hyped agenda-serving proclamation that LDL is bad, Norwitz and senior author and expert lipidologist William Cromwell, MD, conducted the dramatic demonstration, hoping it would spark scientific debate. After all, the conversation is critical since, like the gene-damaging COVID shots, the pharmaceutical industry-funded most of the studies supporting statins, and the raw data of the clinical trials has been kept secret, leading to speculation of doctored data.

So, what’s behind all the confusion on cholesterol? For starters, cholesterol is not the potent enemy of health and longevity it’s smeared to be. In fact, it is virtually impossible to explain how vital cholesterol is to the human body. In 2010, outlining the crucial role cholesterol plays in life, Dr. Zoë Harcombe, Ph.D., summarized its importance, explaining that every cell in the body is covered by a membrane (a protective barrier) consisting mainly of cholesterol, fat, and protein. Membranes are porous, not solid walls, letting nutrients and hormones in while keeping waste and toxins out. If cholesterol were removed from cell membranes, they would literally explode from their internal water pressure. Cholesterol is vital for hormone production, digestion, bones, and all the roles performed by vitamin D (together with sun exposure, cholesterol is required to produce vitamin D), the brain, the central nervous system, and memory functions.

Harcombe explained that one of the primary reasons humans spend nearly a third of their lives sleeping is to give the body time to produce cholesterol, repair cells, and perform other essential maintenance. But cholesterol’s significance to living goes even further. Most are familiar with the term “essential fatty acids” or “essential amino acids.” The term “essential” is used when speaking of nutrition in this way because it is essential to human health, yet the body cannot make it. Significantly, though, as pointed out by Harcombe, the body makes cholesterol. Remarking on that fact alone, she shared:

“That says to me that cholesterol is even more vital than essential fatty acids or essential amino acids—even though these too are life critical—and therefore the design of the human body is such that it was not left to chance that we needed to get cholesterol from food. Of the 500 or so roles that the liver has—one is to produce cholesterol. It is too vital to be left to chance.

The chemical formula for cholesterol is C27H46O. There is no good version or bad version. HDL and LDL are not even cholesterol, let alone good cholesterol or bad cholesterol. They are lipoproteins. They carry cholesterol, triglycerides, phospholipids, and protein. Do you think that taxis are people? Or do you think they are carriers of people (and luggage, pets, and other things)?”

Having cholesterol as this middleman has allowed an entire pharmaceutical industry (and stupid cookbooks) to come up with ways of lowering cholesterol. The most lucrative of these has clearly been statins–drugs designed to stop the body producing the cholesterol that it is designed to produce.”

Harcombe’s remarks make perfect sense. Nonetheless, despite knowing cholesterol’s vital role in being alive, the belief that LDL cholesterol causes atherosclerosis, followed by coronary heart disease (CHD), is a fundamental principle of modern medicine—solely based on biased studies. Indeed, for the last forty years, the mainstream medical establishment has asserted that elevated serum cholesterol levels are a direct instigator of CHD and that statins are essential to controlling cholesterol levels. They make this declaration as if there were no other choices or healthier alternatives. Indeed, by using extensive promotional campaigns producing billions in profits, the medical industrial complex has convinced millions worldwide that the key to avoiding heart disease is reducing cholesterol levels by using statin drugs and eating a diet low in saturated fat—essentially stoking fear and nudging its trusting minions to avoid eating fats and meat and instead eat chemical-laden ultra-processed carbs. Hmmm… Post-COVID, with eyes wide open, a sinister Big Pharma strategy is illuminated. Proving the scheme, a 2005 publication in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons titled “LDL Cholesterol: “Bad” Cholesterol, or Bad Science,” noted:

“While the war on cholesterol has proved to be extremely lucrative for the food and drug industries, it has delivered no benefit to public health. CHD is still the leading cause of death in Western countries. If cholesterol reduction were effective in preventing CHD, then it would surely lower both fatal and nonfatal CHD. This has not happened. Modern medicine has made significant advances in extending the lives of those who have already had heart attacks, but it has failed to help people avoid CHD in the first place.

In addition, the relentless drive to steer people to low-fat, high-carbohydrate diets has been accompanied by a marked increase in the prevalence of obesity and diabetes. This increase has been so large that some predict the steady rise in life expectancy enjoyed by Americans during the last century may soon come to an end.”

Incredibly—despite record use of statin drugs—nearly two decades after noting that CHD was the number one cause of death in 2005, the deep-state peddler, the unscrupulous World Health Organization (WHO), reported in December 2020 that heart disease has remained the leading cause of death at the global level for the last twenty years. But that’s not all. The WHO added that heart disease is killing more people than ever before, with the number of deaths from heart disease increasing from 2 million since 2000 to nearly 9 million in 2019, representing 16 percent of total deaths from all causes. And with the heart issues tied to the deadly mRNA COVID-19 jabs, those figures are sure to increase.

So, where does this leave us? We can thank Minnesota physiologist Ancel Keys and his questionable handpicked study back in 1958-1983 for declaring that the fat composition of the diet and serum cholesterol contribute to heart disease. The US Public Health Service funded his Seven Countries Study following President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s heart attack. At the time, heart disease was the leading cause of death in the United States. Speaking of the profound effect Keys had on inaccurately portraying cholesterol, journalist Nina Tiecholz remarked that in the wake of Keys’ legacy, we have seen increases in cancer, diabetes, and, of course, heart disease. Noting Keys study is filled with errors, she rightly stated, “We should not attempt to set dietary recommendations in stone when the research behind those recommendations are built on sand.”

Harcombe agrees, wondering, “How on earth [have] we ever got away with telling people cholesterol causes heart disease?” She pointed out that reputable research reveals that high cholesterol is associated with lower heart disease and vice versa—for all the available data in the world! “High cholesterol is not even associated with high heart disease, let alone does not cause it,” she stated, adding, “Why are we lowering cholesterol when lower cholesterol is associated with more deaths from heart disease and all causes for men and women?” The magnitude of the disinformation around cholesterol and statins is mind-boggling. Was it intentional? Thanks to COVID, it is safe to assume the attack on cholesterol and subsequent remodeling of global dietary advice 40 years ago undoubtedly had a sinister “keep people sick” motive. Like a detective on the scent of a killer, Harcombe commented:

“Our global dietary advice was changed in 1977 in the US and 1983 in the UK as a result of a biased study of seven handpicked countries. Had the data been available for the 192 countries we can analyze now, or had Keys even considered all the data that was available to him at the time (for France, etc.), our conclusion may have been that we need to protect cholesterol levels in the body. We may have realized that the last thing we should be trying to do is lowering cholesterol–unless we’re trying to lower life expectancy for some reason.”

Intentionally lowering life expectancy, where have we heard that before? The notion of such a deliberate act against humanity reinforces the necessity of being in control of one’s health. Norwitz, the mastermind behind the brilliant Oreo vs. Statin study, conveyed that carbohydrate-restricted diets (CRD) hold promise for maintaining excellent health. Indeed, a CRD has been shown to be an effective treatment for weight loss, type 2 diabetes, and other chronic health conditions. You know, the diet and lifestyle-related diseases American taxpayers have spent billions (through the NIH and CDC) to cure, with no success. Go figure. However, one pending issue with the CRD approach is that this dietary strategy, according to Big Pharma and its cohorts, may also cause elevated LDL cholesterol. But wait, high LDL may not be a bad thing at all.

So where does all of this intriguing information leave Big Pharma’s statins and the profitable junk food industrial complex tasked with keeping us sick? Given that poisonous Oreo Cookies lower LDL more than Big Pharma’s windfall statin drugs, we hope that Norwitz’s study clarifies cholesterol’s vital role in the human body once and for all while further exposing the corruption behind Big Pharma and our healthcare system.

https://thehighwire.com/editorial/t...sterol-more-than-statins/#author-section


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Big Pharma and Big food go hand in hand I have been saying for years, but Covid really opened my eyes. I would also the lawncare industry in the group. The billions of dollars spent to kill off the beneficial herbs that have been labeled as weeds and nuisances


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Originally Posted by rte
This was the conclusion reached by a study that was conducted by Harvard Medical School scholar Nicholas G. Norwitz, Ph.D.

The baby boomers who have consumed the false notion,that if you develop symptoms,then you should take a pill prescribed by your doctor and you'll be healed,will be very disappointed.

Reversing the symptoms of diseases that plague western man,may be as simple as ceasing to engage in the activity which caused these symptoms.That is,stop consuming potentially toxic food,consume wholesome healthy food,consisting of fruits,vegetables and adequate levels of protein,engage in a proper exercise program and get respectable restorative sleep.


Pfizer’s cholesterol-lowering statin drug Lipitor is one of the most profitable medications of all time. Globally, the lucrative statin market is projected to reach $32 billion by 2032. Yet, for years, there have been published studies reporting that statin drugs lead to profound memory loss and diabetes, and, overall, are entirely worthless. As such, the studies have supplied the basis for reevaluating the guidelines for prescribing statins and theories on cholesterol in general. After all, cholesterol is essential to the human body—if you had none, you would be dead. The studies have likewise questioned why more focus isn’t put on maintaining good heart health through beneficial lifestyle habits instead of harmful statin medications. However, given the massive profits enjoyed by Big Pharma and physicians alike, questions are quelled, and statin prescriptions continue to increase. But alas—firmly revealing the absurdity of the scheme to keep Americans unhealthy on statins—a recent study published on January 22, 2024, has demonstrated that Nabisco’s toxic Oreo Cookies are two times more effective at lowering LDL cholesterol (the one they say is “bad”) than high-intensity statin drugs. Holy smokes… what?!

The eye-opening study on one of the most prescribed drugs in history and one of the nation’s most addictive junk foods was conducted by Harvard Medical School scholar Nicholas G. Norwitz, Ph.D., who is ketogenic and has high LDL (low-density lipoprotein) cholesterol. For context, many argue that LDL cholesterol is merely a surrogate marker, and prominent cardiologists are increasingly questioning its causative role in the development of heart disease. With that in mind, to prove the ineffectiveness of statins and the over-hyped agenda-serving proclamation that LDL is bad, Norwitz and senior author and expert lipidologist William Cromwell, MD, conducted the dramatic demonstration, hoping it would spark scientific debate. After all, the conversation is critical since, like the gene-damaging COVID shots, the pharmaceutical industry-funded most of the studies supporting statins, and the raw data of the clinical trials has been kept secret, leading to speculation of doctored data.

So, what’s behind all the confusion on cholesterol? For starters, cholesterol is not the potent enemy of health and longevity it’s smeared to be. In fact, it is virtually impossible to explain how vital cholesterol is to the human body. In 2010, outlining the crucial role cholesterol plays in life, Dr. Zoë Harcombe, Ph.D., summarized its importance, explaining that every cell in the body is covered by a membrane (a protective barrier) consisting mainly of cholesterol, fat, and protein. Membranes are porous, not solid walls, letting nutrients and hormones in while keeping waste and toxins out. If cholesterol were removed from cell membranes, they would literally explode from their internal water pressure. Cholesterol is vital for hormone production, digestion, bones, and all the roles performed by vitamin D (together with sun exposure, cholesterol is required to produce vitamin D), the brain, the central nervous system, and memory functions.

Harcombe explained that one of the primary reasons humans spend nearly a third of their lives sleeping is to give the body time to produce cholesterol, repair cells, and perform other essential maintenance. But cholesterol’s significance to living goes even further. Most are familiar with the term “essential fatty acids” or “essential amino acids.” The term “essential” is used when speaking of nutrition in this way because it is essential to human health, yet the body cannot make it. Significantly, though, as pointed out by Harcombe, the body makes cholesterol. Remarking on that fact alone, she shared:

“That says to me that cholesterol is even more vital than essential fatty acids or essential amino acids—even though these too are life critical—and therefore the design of the human body is such that it was not left to chance that we needed to get cholesterol from food. Of the 500 or so roles that the liver has—one is to produce cholesterol. It is too vital to be left to chance.

The chemical formula for cholesterol is C27H46O. There is no good version or bad version. HDL and LDL are not even cholesterol, let alone good cholesterol or bad cholesterol. They are lipoproteins. They carry cholesterol, triglycerides, phospholipids, and protein. Do you think that taxis are people? Or do you think they are carriers of people (and luggage, pets, and other things)?”

Having cholesterol as this middleman has allowed an entire pharmaceutical industry (and stupid cookbooks) to come up with ways of lowering cholesterol. The most lucrative of these has clearly been statins–drugs designed to stop the body producing the cholesterol that it is designed to produce.”

Harcombe’s remarks make perfect sense. Nonetheless, despite knowing cholesterol’s vital role in being alive, the belief that LDL cholesterol causes atherosclerosis, followed by coronary heart disease (CHD), is a fundamental principle of modern medicine—solely based on biased studies. Indeed, for the last forty years, the mainstream medical establishment has asserted that elevated serum cholesterol levels are a direct instigator of CHD and that statins are essential to controlling cholesterol levels. They make this declaration as if there were no other choices or healthier alternatives. Indeed, by using extensive promotional campaigns producing billions in profits, the medical industrial complex has convinced millions worldwide that the key to avoiding heart disease is reducing cholesterol levels by using statin drugs and eating a diet low in saturated fat—essentially stoking fear and nudging its trusting minions to avoid eating fats and meat and instead eat chemical-laden ultra-processed carbs. Hmmm… Post-COVID, with eyes wide open, a sinister Big Pharma strategy is illuminated. Proving the scheme, a 2005 publication in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons titled “LDL Cholesterol: “Bad” Cholesterol, or Bad Science,” noted:

“While the war on cholesterol has proved to be extremely lucrative for the food and drug industries, it has delivered no benefit to public health. CHD is still the leading cause of death in Western countries. If cholesterol reduction were effective in preventing CHD, then it would surely lower both fatal and nonfatal CHD. This has not happened. Modern medicine has made significant advances in extending the lives of those who have already had heart attacks, but it has failed to help people avoid CHD in the first place.

In addition, the relentless drive to steer people to low-fat, high-carbohydrate diets has been accompanied by a marked increase in the prevalence of obesity and diabetes. This increase has been so large that some predict the steady rise in life expectancy enjoyed by Americans during the last century may soon come to an end.”

Incredibly—despite record use of statin drugs—nearly two decades after noting that CHD was the number one cause of death in 2005, the deep-state peddler, the unscrupulous World Health Organization (WHO), reported in December 2020 that heart disease has remained the leading cause of death at the global level for the last twenty years. But that’s not all. The WHO added that heart disease is killing more people than ever before, with the number of deaths from heart disease increasing from 2 million since 2000 to nearly 9 million in 2019, representing 16 percent of total deaths from all causes. And with the heart issues tied to the deadly mRNA COVID-19 jabs, those figures are sure to increase.

So, where does this leave us? We can thank Minnesota physiologist Ancel Keys and his questionable handpicked study back in 1958-1983 for declaring that the fat composition of the diet and serum cholesterol contribute to heart disease. The US Public Health Service funded his Seven Countries Study following President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s heart attack. At the time, heart disease was the leading cause of death in the United States. Speaking of the profound effect Keys had on inaccurately portraying cholesterol, journalist Nina Tiecholz remarked that in the wake of Keys’ legacy, we have seen increases in cancer, diabetes, and, of course, heart disease. Noting Keys study is filled with errors, she rightly stated, “We should not attempt to set dietary recommendations in stone when the research behind those recommendations are built on sand.”

Harcombe agrees, wondering, “How on earth [have] we ever got away with telling people cholesterol causes heart disease?” She pointed out that reputable research reveals that high cholesterol is associated with lower heart disease and vice versa—for all the available data in the world! “High cholesterol is not even associated with high heart disease, let alone does not cause it,” she stated, adding, “Why are we lowering cholesterol when lower cholesterol is associated with more deaths from heart disease and all causes for men and women?” The magnitude of the disinformation around cholesterol and statins is mind-boggling. Was it intentional? Thanks to COVID, it is safe to assume the attack on cholesterol and subsequent remodeling of global dietary advice 40 years ago undoubtedly had a sinister “keep people sick” motive. Like a detective on the scent of a killer, Harcombe commented:

“Our global dietary advice was changed in 1977 in the US and 1983 in the UK as a result of a biased study of seven handpicked countries. Had the data been available for the 192 countries we can analyze now, or had Keys even considered all the data that was available to him at the time (for France, etc.), our conclusion may have been that we need to protect cholesterol levels in the body. We may have realized that the last thing we should be trying to do is lowering cholesterol–unless we’re trying to lower life expectancy for some reason.”

Intentionally lowering life expectancy, where have we heard that before? The notion of such a deliberate act against humanity reinforces the necessity of being in control of one’s health. Norwitz, the mastermind behind the brilliant Oreo vs. Statin study, conveyed that carbohydrate-restricted diets (CRD) hold promise for maintaining excellent health. Indeed, a CRD has been shown to be an effective treatment for weight loss, type 2 diabetes, and other chronic health conditions. You know, the diet and lifestyle-related diseases American taxpayers have spent billions (through the NIH and CDC) to cure, with no success. Go figure. However, one pending issue with the CRD approach is that this dietary strategy, according to Big Pharma and its cohorts, may also cause elevated LDL cholesterol. But wait, high LDL may not be a bad thing at all.

So where does all of this intriguing information leave Big Pharma’s statins and the profitable junk food industrial complex tasked with keeping us sick? Given that poisonous Oreo Cookies lower LDL more than Big Pharma’s windfall statin drugs, we hope that Norwitz’s study clarifies cholesterol’s vital role in the human body once and for all while further exposing the corruption behind Big Pharma and our healthcare system.

https://thehighwire.com/editorial/t...sterol-more-than-statins/#author-section
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Originally Posted by rte
This was the conclusion reached by a study that was conducted by Harvard Medical School scholar Nicholas G. Norwitz, Ph.D.

The baby boomers who have consumed the false notion,that if you develop symptoms,then you should take a pill prescribed by your doctor and you'll be healed,will be very disappointed.

Reversing the symptoms of diseases that plague western man,may be as simple as ceasing to engage in the activity which caused these symptoms.That is,stop consuming potentially toxic food,consume wholesome healthy food,consisting of fruits,vegetables and adequate levels of protein,engage in a proper exercise program and get respectable restorative sleep.


Pfizer’s cholesterol-lowering statin drug Lipitor is one of the most profitable medications of all time. Globally, the lucrative statin market is projected to reach $32 billion by 2032. Yet, for years, there have been published studies reporting that statin drugs lead to profound memory loss and diabetes, and, overall, are entirely worthless. As such, the studies have supplied the basis for reevaluating the guidelines for prescribing statins and theories on cholesterol in general. After all, cholesterol is essential to the human body—if you had none, you would be dead. The studies have likewise questioned why more focus isn’t put on maintaining good heart health through beneficial lifestyle habits instead of harmful statin medications. However, given the massive profits enjoyed by Big Pharma and physicians alike, questions are quelled, and statin prescriptions continue to increase. But alas—firmly revealing the absurdity of the scheme to keep Americans unhealthy on statins—a recent study published on January 22, 2024, has demonstrated that Nabisco’s toxic Oreo Cookies are two times more effective at lowering LDL cholesterol (the one they say is “bad”) than high-intensity statin drugs. Holy smokes… what?!

The eye-opening study on one of the most prescribed drugs in history and one of the nation’s most addictive junk foods was conducted by Harvard Medical School scholar Nicholas G. Norwitz, Ph.D., who is ketogenic and has high LDL (low-density lipoprotein) cholesterol. For context, many argue that LDL cholesterol is merely a surrogate marker, and prominent cardiologists are increasingly questioning its causative role in the development of heart disease. With that in mind, to prove the ineffectiveness of statins and the over-hyped agenda-serving proclamation that LDL is bad, Norwitz and senior author and expert lipidologist William Cromwell, MD, conducted the dramatic demonstration, hoping it would spark scientific debate. After all, the conversation is critical since, like the gene-damaging COVID shots, the pharmaceutical industry-funded most of the studies supporting statins, and the raw data of the clinical trials has been kept secret, leading to speculation of doctored data.

So, what’s behind all the confusion on cholesterol? For starters, cholesterol is not the potent enemy of health and longevity it’s smeared to be. In fact, it is virtually impossible to explain how vital cholesterol is to the human body. In 2010, outlining the crucial role cholesterol plays in life, Dr. Zoë Harcombe, Ph.D., summarized its importance, explaining that every cell in the body is covered by a membrane (a protective barrier) consisting mainly of cholesterol, fat, and protein. Membranes are porous, not solid walls, letting nutrients and hormones in while keeping waste and toxins out. If cholesterol were removed from cell membranes, they would literally explode from their internal water pressure. Cholesterol is vital for hormone production, digestion, bones, and all the roles performed by vitamin D (together with sun exposure, cholesterol is required to produce vitamin D), the brain, the central nervous system, and memory functions.

Harcombe explained that one of the primary reasons humans spend nearly a third of their lives sleeping is to give the body time to produce cholesterol, repair cells, and perform other essential maintenance. But cholesterol’s significance to living goes even further. Most are familiar with the term “essential fatty acids” or “essential amino acids.” The term “essential” is used when speaking of nutrition in this way because it is essential to human health, yet the body cannot make it. Significantly, though, as pointed out by Harcombe, the body makes cholesterol. Remarking on that fact alone, she shared:

“That says to me that cholesterol is even more vital than essential fatty acids or essential amino acids—even though these too are life critical—and therefore the design of the human body is such that it was not left to chance that we needed to get cholesterol from food. Of the 500 or so roles that the liver has—one is to produce cholesterol. It is too vital to be left to chance.

The chemical formula for cholesterol is C27H46O. There is no good version or bad version. HDL and LDL are not even cholesterol, let alone good cholesterol or bad cholesterol. They are lipoproteins. They carry cholesterol, triglycerides, phospholipids, and protein. Do you think that taxis are people? Or do you think they are carriers of people (and luggage, pets, and other things)?”

Having cholesterol as this middleman has allowed an entire pharmaceutical industry (and stupid cookbooks) to come up with ways of lowering cholesterol. The most lucrative of these has clearly been statins–drugs designed to stop the body producing the cholesterol that it is designed to produce.”

Harcombe’s remarks make perfect sense. Nonetheless, despite knowing cholesterol’s vital role in being alive, the belief that LDL cholesterol causes atherosclerosis, followed by coronary heart disease (CHD), is a fundamental principle of modern medicine—solely based on biased studies. Indeed, for the last forty years, the mainstream medical establishment has asserted that elevated serum cholesterol levels are a direct instigator of CHD and that statins are essential to controlling cholesterol levels. They make this declaration as if there were no other choices or healthier alternatives. Indeed, by using extensive promotional campaigns producing billions in profits, the medical industrial complex has convinced millions worldwide that the key to avoiding heart disease is reducing cholesterol levels by using statin drugs and eating a diet low in saturated fat—essentially stoking fear and nudging its trusting minions to avoid eating fats and meat and instead eat chemical-laden ultra-processed carbs. Hmmm… Post-COVID, with eyes wide open, a sinister Big Pharma strategy is illuminated. Proving the scheme, a 2005 publication in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons titled “LDL Cholesterol: “Bad” Cholesterol, or Bad Science,” noted:

“While the war on cholesterol has proved to be extremely lucrative for the food and drug industries, it has delivered no benefit to public health. CHD is still the leading cause of death in Western countries. If cholesterol reduction were effective in preventing CHD, then it would surely lower both fatal and nonfatal CHD. This has not happened. Modern medicine has made significant advances in extending the lives of those who have already had heart attacks, but it has failed to help people avoid CHD in the first place.

In addition, the relentless drive to steer people to low-fat, high-carbohydrate diets has been accompanied by a marked increase in the prevalence of obesity and diabetes. This increase has been so large that some predict the steady rise in life expectancy enjoyed by Americans during the last century may soon come to an end.”

Incredibly—despite record use of statin drugs—nearly two decades after noting that CHD was the number one cause of death in 2005, the deep-state peddler, the unscrupulous World Health Organization (WHO), reported in December 2020 that heart disease has remained the leading cause of death at the global level for the last twenty years. But that’s not all. The WHO added that heart disease is killing more people than ever before, with the number of deaths from heart disease increasing from 2 million since 2000 to nearly 9 million in 2019, representing 16 percent of total deaths from all causes. And with the heart issues tied to the deadly mRNA COVID-19 jabs, those figures are sure to increase.

So, where does this leave us? We can thank Minnesota physiologist Ancel Keys and his questionable handpicked study back in 1958-1983 for declaring that the fat composition of the diet and serum cholesterol contribute to heart disease. The US Public Health Service funded his Seven Countries Study following President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s heart attack. At the time, heart disease was the leading cause of death in the United States. Speaking of the profound effect Keys had on inaccurately portraying cholesterol, journalist Nina Tiecholz remarked that in the wake of Keys’ legacy, we have seen increases in cancer, diabetes, and, of course, heart disease. Noting Keys study is filled with errors, she rightly stated, “We should not attempt to set dietary recommendations in stone when the research behind those recommendations are built on sand.”

Harcombe agrees, wondering, “How on earth [have] we ever got away with telling people cholesterol causes heart disease?” She pointed out that reputable research reveals that high cholesterol is associated with lower heart disease and vice versa—for all the available data in the world! “High cholesterol is not even associated with high heart disease, let alone does not cause it,” she stated, adding, “Why are we lowering cholesterol when lower cholesterol is associated with more deaths from heart disease and all causes for men and women?” The magnitude of the disinformation around cholesterol and statins is mind-boggling. Was it intentional? Thanks to COVID, it is safe to assume the attack on cholesterol and subsequent remodeling of global dietary advice 40 years ago undoubtedly had a sinister “keep people sick” motive. Like a detective on the scent of a killer, Harcombe commented:

“Our global dietary advice was changed in 1977 in the US and 1983 in the UK as a result of a biased study of seven handpicked countries. Had the data been available for the 192 countries we can analyze now, or had Keys even considered all the data that was available to him at the time (for France, etc.), our conclusion may have been that we need to protect cholesterol levels in the body. We may have realized that the last thing we should be trying to do is lowering cholesterol–unless we’re trying to lower life expectancy for some reason.”

Intentionally lowering life expectancy, where have we heard that before? The notion of such a deliberate act against humanity reinforces the necessity of being in control of one’s health. Norwitz, the mastermind behind the brilliant Oreo vs. Statin study, conveyed that carbohydrate-restricted diets (CRD) hold promise for maintaining excellent health. Indeed, a CRD has been shown to be an effective treatment for weight loss, type 2 diabetes, and other chronic health conditions. You know, the diet and lifestyle-related diseases American taxpayers have spent billions (through the NIH and CDC) to cure, with no success. Go figure. However, one pending issue with the CRD approach is that this dietary strategy, according to Big Pharma and its cohorts, may also cause elevated LDL cholesterol. But wait, high LDL may not be a bad thing at all.

So where does all of this intriguing information leave Big Pharma’s statins and the profitable junk food industrial complex tasked with keeping us sick? Given that poisonous Oreo Cookies lower LDL more than Big Pharma’s windfall statin drugs, we hope that Norwitz’s study clarifies cholesterol’s vital role in the human body once and for all while further exposing the corruption behind Big Pharma and our healthcare system.

https://thehighwire.com/editorial/t...sterol-more-than-statins/#author-section

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a) I’m not reading all that.
2) the cholesterol myth will die when the last boomer dies.

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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
90% of the 24hcf believes that consuming saturated fats kills you, so you are living on the edge with this post.

Saturated fat does NOT increase heart disease. ?


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Tracy Beanz is a vocal supporter of the QAnon movement, which is a conspiracy theory that claims that a secret government official, known as “Q,” is leaking classified information to the public to expose a deep-state cabal.

She didn't conduct the study,she merely reposted a portion of the results from Harvard.


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a) I’m not reading all that.
2) the cholesterol myth will die when the last boomer dies.

That's what you think.

The millennials are just as convinced that popping a pill is the answer to most of their illnesses.

I have a cousin age 40, who is only one year older than myself and he acquiesced to taking a statin.


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Why would anyone trust a Harvard "study" in this day and age?

Because this study runs contrary to prevailing consensus that LDL is the most prevalent contributor to heart disease.

It also criticizes big pharma for their relentless pursuit of profit placed above the health of their customers.


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I am not reading that study. It doesn't matter that Oreos lower LDL. All that means is that they are taking you closer to bad metabolic health and diabetes.

This will explain the situation. The summation points are in the most played section.




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90% of the 24hcf believes that consuming saturated fats kills you, so you are living on the edge with this post.

Saturated fat does NOT increase heart disease. ?


No. It does not. Doc Atkins worked that silly notion out years ago.


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Why would anyone trust a Harvard "study" in this day and age?

Because this study runs contrary to prevailing consensus that LDL is the most prevalent contributor to heart disease.

It also criticizes big pharma for their relentless pursuit of profit placed above the health of their customers.


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90% of the 24hcf believes that consuming saturated fats kills you, so you are living on the edge with this post.

Saturated fat does NOT increase heart disease. ?

No it does not. It increases your cholesterol which is not necessarily a bad thing unless you are overweight and insulin insensitive headed toward full blown T2 diabetes which is extreme insulin insensitivity.

The cholesterol your body produces is not an artery clogging agent. It is found in the build up inside a clogged artery, but it is there as a fireman trying to repair the damage your high sugar processed food diet caused.

If you are a diabetic or insulin insensitive, it can be tested, but if you have a gut and eat high glycemic foods often, you likely are. In that situation you would be better off to not consume the saturated fats. That's not to say the processed junk is better, cut all that out too.

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I am not reading that study. It doesn't matter that Oreos lower LDL. All that means is that they are taking you closer to bad metabolic health and diabetes.

This will explain the situation. The summation points are in the most played section.

Blah,blah,blah.

Read more and post less of your youtube videos and may learn.

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However, given the massive profits enjoyed by Big Pharma and physicians alike, questions are quelled, and statin prescriptions continue to increase. But alas—firmly revealing the absurdity of the scheme to keep Americans unhealthy on statins—a recent study published on January 22, 2024, has demonstrated that Nabisco’s toxic Oreo Cookies are two times more effective at lowering LDL cholesterol (the one they say is “bad”) than high-intensity statin drugs.


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Oreos? Who knew.

My LDL must be zero then.

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90% of the 24hcf believes that consuming saturated fats kills you, so you are living on the edge with this post.

Saturated fat does NOT increase heart disease. ?

If it did my boomer ass would have been dead years ago!

Im also a firm believer in the French paradox involving red wine.

But WTF do I know???

( sidenote. They tried to put me on statins and I just laughed at them and said, "no you already have be on too many pills!" (5 total counting baby asprin).

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I am not reading that study. It doesn't matter that Oreos lower LDL. All that means is that they are taking you closer to bad metabolic health and diabetes.

This will explain the situation. The summation points are in the most played section.

Blah,blah,blah.

Read more and post less of your youtube videos and may learn.

Originally Posted by Dr.Sabin Hazan
However, given the massive profits enjoyed by Big Pharma and physicians alike, questions are quelled, and statin prescriptions continue to increase. But alas—firmly revealing the absurdity of the scheme to keep Americans unhealthy on statins—a recent study published on January 22, 2024, has demonstrated that Nabisco’s toxic Oreo Cookies are two times more effective at lowering LDL cholesterol (the one they say is “bad”) than high-intensity statin drugs.

I read that part and responded that it means nothing and then showed why it means nothing. You don't need to try to lower your LDL with statins or cookies. What about that causes you to act so rude?

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I have watched a zillion videos about lean mass hyper responders and oreos with the wife.

It is a small part of the cholesterol hoax.


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90% of the 24hcf believes that consuming saturated fats kills you, so you are living on the edge with this post.

Saturated fat does NOT increase heart disease. ?


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I have a stupid question. Since cholesterol (LDL) is supposed to be bad which supposedly is responsible for the plaque in our arteries. How does one go about cleansing the arteries without surgery?


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Since cholesterol (LDL) is supposed to be bad which supposedly is responsible for the plaque in our arteries.

elevated blood sugar, insulin resistance, and cigarettes


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Originally Posted by rte
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Why would anyone trust a Harvard "study" in this day and age?

Because this study runs contrary to prevailing consensus that LDL is the most prevalent contributor to heart disease.

It also criticizes big pharma for their relentless pursuit of profit placed above the health of their customers.

No, the study didn't address LDL and heart disease.

The study was to show that a when unique population of 'Lean Mass Hyper-Responders" go on a Ketogenic Diet some of them have their LDL levels go through the roof and that adding back in some carbohydrates can make it go back down, even more than taking statins would.

The take aways from this study are:

1. In general, It demonstrates a metabolic reaction that helps science better understand human physiology.

2. For and individual: If one goes on a Ketogenic diet and sees their LDL go through the roof, adding back some carbohydrates will likely lower them. If you're on an extreme Ketogenic diet and your LDL goes so high your doctor wants to treat you for it, maybe add a some carbohydrates and see if that drops them (try a sweet potato or something heathier than a half a package of Oreo cookies though).

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Don’t you wish they’d all go bankrupt.


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Fat is not dangerous if it’s intact (ie not trans fats) and not in the presence of high sugars and insulin.


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90% of the 24hcf believes that consuming saturated fats kills you, so you are living on the edge with this post.

Saturated fat does NOT increase heart disease. ?
Raw coconut fat is mostly saturated and it’s one of the healthiest fats on the planet.


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Big Pharma is a pestilence!

Don’t you wish they’d all go bankrupt.

I hope they lay me off in two years.




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Bottom line?

Industrial food causes industrial diseases.

Did you know the first description of a heart attack in the US medical literature was in…..1912?

Crisco was introduced in 1911.


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Big Pharma and Big food go hand in hand I have been saying for years, but Covid really opened my eyes. I would also the lawncare industry in the group. The billions of dollars spent to kill off the beneficial herbs that have been labeled as weeds and nuisances


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Big Pharma is a pestilence!



Any comment on the topic of the article?


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I have a stupid question. Since cholesterol (LDL) is supposed to be bad which supposedly is responsible for the plaque in our arteries. How does one go about cleansing the arteries without surgery?


reduce inflamation and stop eating the foods that cause inflamation and accumulation of plaques.


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I have a stupid question. Since cholesterol (LDL) is supposed to be bad which supposedly is responsible for the plaque in our arteries. How does one go about cleansing the arteries without surgery?


reduce inflamation and stop eating the foods that cause inflamation and accumulation of plaques.


... it's a sweet topic to explore.


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And not a word concerning triglycerides - where do they figure into the equation?


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And not a word concerning triglycerides - where do they figure into the equation?

For triglycerides you need to eat Cheetos instead of Oreos.

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I have a stupid question. Since cholesterol (LDL) is supposed to be bad which supposedly is responsible for the plaque in our arteries. How does one go about cleansing the arteries without surgery?
I had to help my wife and then I drove our nanny home since her car wouldn't start today.

Firstly LDL is not responsible for the plaque.Cholesterol combined with free radical damage within the lumen and the body's defensive reaction of shunting calcium to the injured area,creates the foundation for these occlusions.

There has been a cure for plaque accumulation,that's responsible for arterial occlusions,for more than 60 years.It's termed chemical endarterectomy,aka chelation therapy,using an agent called Ethylenediaminetetraacetic.

It removes the substances that are causing the occlusion [blockage] and excretes theses substances through the normal excretory processes,that is urination and defecation.It performs this removal over a period of time and is a true cure for atherosclerosis that is non invasive.

This therapy doesn't produce large revenue as opposed to percutaneous transluminal coronary angioplasty or coronary artery bypass grafting procedure.

It's a true cure and not a complex and expensive surgical intervention like the aforementioned procedures.


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Any comment on the topic of the article?


I didn’t see anything concerning the structure of the study. Multicenter, double blind, placebo controlled?





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Why would anyone trust a Harvard "study" in this day and age?

Because this study runs contrary to prevailing consensus that LDL is the most prevalent contributor to heart disease.

It also criticizes big pharma for their relentless pursuit of profit placed above the health of their customers.
No, the study didn't address LDL and heart disease.
The study was to show that a when unique population of 'Lean Mass Hyper-Responders" go on a Ketogenic Diet some of them have their LDL levels go through the roof and that adding back in some carbohydrates can make it go back down, even more than taking statins would.
The take aways from this study are:
1. In general, It demonstrates a metabolic reaction that helps science better understand human physiology.
2. For and individual: If one goes on a Ketogenic diet and sees their LDL go through the roof, adding back some carbohydrates will likely lower them. If you're on an extreme Ketogenic diet and your LDL goes so high your doctor wants to treat you for it, maybe add a some carbohydrates and see if that drops them (try a sweet potato or something heathier than a half a package of Oreo cookies though

The study illustrated far more than you copied and pasted as your response.

I should have been more specific as the study and the article that I posted and to which I linked,does address this issue.There are also 16 other studies and articles to which the authors provided links.Did you read all of those as well? Maybe I didn't think some members would be so intentionally obtuse.

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Why would anyone trust a Harvard "study" in this day and age?

Because this study runs contrary to prevailing consensus that LDL is the most prevalent contributor to heart disease.

It also criticizes big pharma for their relentless pursuit of profit placed above the health of their customers.
No, the study didn't address LDL and heart disease.
The study was to show that a when unique population of 'Lean Mass Hyper-Responders" go on a Ketogenic Diet some of them have their LDL levels go through the roof and that adding back in some carbohydrates can make it go back down, even more than taking statins would.
The take aways from this study are:
1. In general, It demonstrates a metabolic reaction that helps science better understand human physiology.
2. For and individual: If one goes on a Ketogenic diet and sees their LDL go through the roof, adding back some carbohydrates will likely lower them. If you're on an extreme Ketogenic diet and your LDL goes so high your doctor wants to treat you for it, maybe add a some carbohydrates and see if that drops them (try a sweet potato or something heathier than a half a package of Oreo cookies though

The study illustrated far more than you copied and pasted as your response.

I should have been more specific as the study and the article that I posted and to which I linked,does address this issue.There are also 16 other studies and articles to which the authors provided links.Did you read all of those as well? Maybe I didn't think some members would be so intentionally obtuse.

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90% of the 24hcf believes that consuming saturated fats kills you, so you are living on the edge with this post.

Saturated fat does NOT increase heart disease. ?
start watching some you tube videos...
Sten Ekberg
Dr. Boz
Dr. Ken Berry

You will learn that practically all the "old man" diseases are caused by carbs and sugar. Insulin Resistance.
Go to a keto diet, no carbs or sugar. Eat meat fats, you will lose belly fat. Eat sugar with it, you will get much worse.
fats do not cause high cholesterol, sugar and carbs do. No "vegetable oil".
Statins are body health killers.

I'm doing keto.....
1. Was 271 pounds and Blood sugar was 140 while on 1mg Ozempic.
2. Now, I'm 216 pounds, normal blood sugar and no diabetes meds.
3. My cholesterol is very good, both hdl and ldl even though i eat much fat.

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I didn’t see anything concerning the structure of the study. Multicenter, double blind, placebo controlled?





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And not a word concerning triglycerides - where do they figure into the equation?

For triglycerides you need to eat Cheetos instead of Oreos.

You have to understand the context of that study. Its not saying that Oreos are a health food.


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When they put in my heart stent, they did not feed me Oreos.


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This is the actual abstract from the study:

Recent research has identified a unique population of ‘Lean Mass Hyper-Responders’ (LMHR) who exhibit increases in LDL cholesterol (LDL-C) in response to carbohydrate-restricted diets to levels ≥ 200 mg/dL, in association with HDL cholesterol ≥ 80 mg/dL and triglycerides ≤ 70 mg/dL. This triad of markers occurs primarily in lean metabolically healthy subjects, with the magnitude of increase in LDL-C inversely associated with body mass index. The lipid energy model has been proposed as one explanation for LMHR phenotype and posits that there is increased export and subsequent turnover of VLDL to LDL particles to meet systemic energy needs in the setting of hepatic glycogen depletion and low body fat. This single subject crossover experiment aimed to test the hypothesis that adding carbohydrates, in the form of Oreo cookies, to an LMHR subject on a ketogenic diet would reduce LDL-C levels by a similar, or greater, magnitude than high-intensity statin therapy. The study was designed as follows: after a 2-week run-in period on a standardized ketogenic diet, study arm 1 consisted of supplementation with 12 regular Oreo cookies, providing 100 g/d of additional carbohydrates for 16 days. Throughout this arm, ketosis was monitored and maintained at levels similar to the subject’s standard ketogenic diet using supplemental exogenous d-β-hydroxybutyrate supplementation four times daily. Following the discontinuation of Oreo supplementation, the subject maintained a stable ketogenic diet for 3 months and documented a return to baseline weight and hypercholesterolemic status. During study arm 2, the subject received rosuvastatin 20 mg daily for 6 weeks. Lipid panels were drawn water-only fasted and weekly throughout the study. Baseline LDL-C was 384 mg/dL and reduced to 111 mg/dL (71% reduction) after Oreo supplementation. Following the washout period, LDL-C returned to 421 mg/dL, and was reduced to a nadir of 284 mg/dL with 20 mg rosuvastatin therapy (32.5% reduction). In conclusion, in this case study experiment, short-term Oreo supplementation lowered LDL-C more than 6 weeks of high-intensity statin therapy in an LMHR subject on a ketogenic diet. This dramatic metabolic demonstration, consistent with the lipid energy model, should provoke further research and not be seen as health advice.

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Single subject.

One dude.

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I am pleasantly surprised that there is so much up to date diet health awareness on a hunting website.

The doctor who lives next door said, "I don't eat shrimp because of the cholesterol."

My doctor had to give me a physical so I could get an eye operation. He wrote about me, "2. Hyperlipidemia E78.5 LDL 210 but he doesn't believe in cholesterol medication and declines. He eats a nearly all meat diet belving that is the healthiest option."


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Originally Posted by Clarkm
I am pleasantly surprised that there is so much up to date diet health awareness on a hunting website.

The doctor who lives next door said, "I don't eat shrimp because of the cholesterol."

My doctor had to give me a physical so I could get an eye operation. He wrote about me, "2. Hyperlipidemia E78.5 LDL 210 but he doesn't believe in cholesterol medication and declines. He eats a nearly all meat diet belving that is the healthiest option."
Doctors are only trained to prescribe medications and cannot advise or treat outside a set standard without risking liability or even having license revoked. Guess who sets the standard of care.

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[quote[/b][b]=RHClark]
Originally Posted by Clarkm
I am pleasantly surprised that there is so much up to date diet health awareness on a hunting website.

The doctor who lives next door said, "I don't eat shrimp because of the cholesterol."

My doctor had to give me a physical so I could get an eye operation. He wrote about me, "2. Hyperlipidemia E78.5 LDL 210 but he doesn't believe in cholesterol medication and declines. He eats a nearly all meat diet belving that is the healthiest option."
Doctors are only trained to prescribe medications and cannot advise or treat outside a set standard without risking liability or even having license revoked. Guess who sets the standard of care.[/quote]


Big Pharma?




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it is what it is. A case study to demonstrate a metabolic phenomenon in people with a certain phenotype on low carb diets when they add back in some carbs.

Trouble is, that is all it is. But, people being the way they are, take it and turn it into something it is not.

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