Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Oreos Lower LDL Cholesterol More Effectively Than Statins !

For triglycerides you need to eat Cheetos instead of Oreos.

I had to help my wife and then I drove our nanny home since her car wouldn't start today.

Firstly LDL is not responsible for the plaque.Cholesterol combined with free radical damage within the lumen and the body's defensive reaction of shunting calcium to the injured area,creates the foundation for these occlusions.

There has been a cure for plaque accumulation,that's responsible for arterial occlusions,for more than 60 years.It's termed chemical endarterectomy,aka chelation therapy,using an agent called Ethylenediaminetetraacetic.

It removes the substances that are causing the occlusion [blockage] and excretes theses substances through the normal excretory processes,that is urination and defecation.It performs this removal over a period of time and is a true cure for atherosclerosis that is non invasive.

This therapy doesn't produce large revenue as opposed to percutaneous transluminal coronary angioplasty or coronary artery bypass grafting procedure.

It's a true cure and not a complex and expensive surgical intervention like the aforementioned procedures.

Bubble gum cures warts and boomers that ate too much lead paint makes them believe in every crazy tinfoil hat conspiracy posted on the internet.

Which goes a long ways towards explaining things around here......

I didn’t see anything concerning the structure of the study. Multicenter, double blind, placebo controlled?





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The study illustrated far more than you copied and pasted as your response.

I should have been more specific as the study and the article that I posted and to which I linked,does address this issue.There are also 16 other studies and articles to which the authors provided links.Did you read all of those as well? Maybe I didn't think some members would be so intentionally obtuse.

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Wow! You’re accusing me of copy and pasting. You really are a total moron.

start watching some you tube videos...
Sten Ekberg
Dr. Boz
Dr. Ken Berry

You will learn that practically all the "old man" diseases are caused by carbs and sugar. Insulin Resistance.
Go to a keto diet, no carbs or sugar. Eat meat fats, you will lose belly fat. Eat sugar with it, you will get much worse.
fats do not cause high cholesterol, sugar and carbs do. No "vegetable oil".
Statins are body health killers.

I'm doing keto.....
1. Was 271 pounds and Blood sugar was 140 while on 1mg Ozempic.
2. Now, I'm 216 pounds, normal blood sugar and no diabetes meds.
3. My cholesterol is very good, both hdl and ldl even though i eat much fat.

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Dr Mercola

lol

You have to understand the context of that study. Its not saying that Oreos are a health food.

When they put in my heart stent, they did not feed me Oreos.

And let us not forget , fried eggs will kill you quick.... Joe

This is the actual abstract from the study:

Recent research has identified a unique population of ‘Lean Mass Hyper-Responders’ (LMHR) who exhibit increases in LDL cholesterol (LDL-C) in response to carbohydrate-restricted diets to levels ≥ 200 mg/dL, in association with HDL cholesterol ≥ 80 mg/dL and triglycerides ≤ 70 mg/dL. This triad of markers occurs primarily in lean metabolically healthy subjects, with the magnitude of increase in LDL-C inversely associated with body mass index. The lipid energy model has been proposed as one explanation for LMHR phenotype and posits that there is increased export and subsequent turnover of VLDL to LDL particles to meet systemic energy needs in the setting of hepatic glycogen depletion and low body fat. This single subject crossover experiment aimed to test the hypothesis that adding carbohydrates, in the form of Oreo cookies, to an LMHR subject on a ketogenic diet would reduce LDL-C levels by a similar, or greater, magnitude than high-intensity statin therapy. The study was designed as follows: after a 2-week run-in period on a standardized ketogenic diet, study arm 1 consisted of supplementation with 12 regular Oreo cookies, providing 100 g/d of additional carbohydrates for 16 days. Throughout this arm, ketosis was monitored and maintained at levels similar to the subject’s standard ketogenic diet using supplemental exogenous d-β-hydroxybutyrate supplementation four times daily. Following the discontinuation of Oreo supplementation, the subject maintained a stable ketogenic diet for 3 months and documented a return to baseline weight and hypercholesterolemic status. During study arm 2, the subject received rosuvastatin 20 mg daily for 6 weeks. Lipid panels were drawn water-only fasted and weekly throughout the study. Baseline LDL-C was 384 mg/dL and reduced to 111 mg/dL (71% reduction) after Oreo supplementation. Following the washout period, LDL-C returned to 421 mg/dL, and was reduced to a nadir of 284 mg/dL with 20 mg rosuvastatin therapy (32.5% reduction). In conclusion, in this case study experiment, short-term Oreo supplementation lowered LDL-C more than 6 weeks of high-intensity statin therapy in an LMHR subject on a ketogenic diet. This dramatic metabolic demonstration, consistent with the lipid energy model, should provoke further research and not be seen as health advice.

Single subject.

One dude.

Laughable.





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I am pleasantly surprised that there is so much up to date diet health awareness on a hunting website.

The doctor who lives next door said, "I don't eat shrimp because of the cholesterol."

My doctor had to give me a physical so I could get an eye operation. He wrote about me, "2. Hyperlipidemia E78.5 LDL 210 but he doesn't believe in cholesterol medication and declines. He eats a nearly all meat diet belving that is the healthiest option."

Doctors are only trained to prescribe medications and cannot advise or treat outside a set standard without risking liability or even having license revoked. Guess who sets the standard of care.

[quote[/b][b]=RHClark]Doctors are only trained to prescribe medications and cannot advise or treat outside a set standard without risking liability or even having license revoked. Guess who sets the standard of care.[/quote]


Big Pharma?




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it is what it is. A case study to demonstrate a metabolic phenomenon in people with a certain phenotype on low carb diets when they add back in some carbs.

Trouble is, that is all it is. But, people being the way they are, take it and turn it into something it is not.

I'm going to live forever !!

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