I just bought my first AR. It is a Carbon 15 with a heavy bbl. It looked almost new and the price was right, so thought it would make a cheap coyote rifle. I loaded up some 50 gr V-max's and went to the range. My first group at 100 yards was .750 and I shot several more .500 to .750 inchers while playing around with it. Now I love AR's! I can't believe it took me this long to appreciate what a wonderful rifle they can be.