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Hey Guys,
Posting this for a friend. He posted the same question on Accuratereloading but for some reason has a problem logging in here these days. I figured I would post it for him and see if I could drum up some responses from the 'fire crowd.
He has a hunt booked in 2009 for a boat based brown bear hunt with his dad. Right now he's looking at using his 300RUM and is looking for the best option for bullet combo.
Any suggestions, comments, etc on the 300RUM as a brown bear gun and the best bullet choice for the task? Obviously something in the A-frame, TSX, North Forks, Woodleigh, etc crowd.....but any suggestions/etc would be great. He is not a reloader but is thinking of having his ammo loaded especially for the hunt.
Comments?
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Yes. Proficiency with the rifle will be far more important than which one among good bullets he selects. Tell him to practice shooting from awkward positions in the rain. And shooting at short range and very short range. I'm just guessing here about your friend, but most people with 300 magnums of any description tend to mostly shoot them at longer ranges. Knowing bullet trajectory at 30 feet may be more important than knowing it at 300 yards. And he needs to make sure everything will still work after a week of sideways rain and dragging it in and out of skiffs and through alders and along rocky beaches and all the other joys of hunting bears on the beach. Just some thoughts beyond bullets...  . DN
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A wise man that used to post here used to say something to the effect of...
Placement, boolit, caliber.
Wise words, them.
YMMV! Hint there!
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Seems like a 200 Swift or 240 Woodleigh might be well suited.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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bullet placement is all that counts.
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Exactly what I have told him in his decision...
Kinda started a bit of a 'debate' over on Accuratereloading on whether the 300RUM was enough, but he is confident and I've assured him with a good bullet in the right spot, it will do its job well...
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If anything, I think the RUM in the light version (30 cal) is a bit too much 30 cal, consequently my thought in using 200 grains on the light end of things. Bears are less impressed by speedy penetrations than are some other animals. As others have said though, in the right place counts for lots as well as does the hole that is "dug."
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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He is strongly considering the A-frame...
Curious what you guys think of the 200 gr TSX in the 300RUM? My thoughts are it would be a hell of a choice.....
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Rack=personally I feel that either a 200 Nozler or a 180 TSX would be a great plenty.
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Those were the first that came to mind....
He's a factory ammo shooter, but he's going to have a specific load worked up for him....right now he's lookin at options for what will work...
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I have a buddy who killed a big brown bear with his 300 Weatherby using 200 grain Swift A frames, Can't see why it would be as good in the 300 Ultra.
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I was "on the scene" when a brownie was killed with a 300 Weatherby and 180 partition. Since we took photo's afterward, the bear seemed pretty dead to me.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I didn't like my experience in taking a nine-footer with a .30 S.A.U.M. and 180 Partitions. I have since gone bigger; .375 and .45-70.
But of course that doesn't make it wrong. Many a bear is taken with a .30.
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Marc,
What about your experience didnt you like? Just curious....
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Marc: When I went I took a 375H&H and a 338...  I was happy I had them.
Last edited by BobinNH; 02/16/08.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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If the bear isn't in a bad mood (rare) and if you hit him just right, the 300 RUM will work fine with heavy, deep penetrating, bullets. However, that sort of critter is why they developed the 375 H&H and the like.
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He kept absorbing those itty bitty rounds.
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Rack=personally I feel that either a 200 Nozler or a 180 TSX would be a great plenty.
I use the 180gr tsx in my own 300ultramags for elk and moose.Even after destroying a large section of elk spine,the bullet retained all of it's petals and all of it's weight.The maximum diameter of the recovered bullet was .800".That was the only tsx that I have recovered out of the 300 ultramag.Penetration was on average,significantly greater than with heavier partitions that a hunting partner used in his 300wm.
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