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Having used the partition and tsx,My choice is the tsx.It retains more weight,penetrates more,and is more accurate in my rifles.
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My experience of ONE moose is as follows: rifle pre 64win 30-06 fwt bored out to 338-06; bullet nosler custom FACTORY 225 gr partition. NWT yukon moose taken uphill at 180+ yards - bang flop. Partition found on off side skin retained 180 gr. The story is that while quartering moose guide found a 250 gr 338 cal. TSX in hind quarters. TSX perfect mushroom per barnes advertisement but no dead moose. The partition entered low in shoulder, broken shoulder, blew out the heart and went up to off side skin. DRT! My guide was pretty impressed.
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The story is that while quartering moose guide found a 250 gr 338 cal. TSX in hind quarters. TSX perfect mushroom per barnes advertisement but no dead moose. And you expected a dead moose with a bullet found in the hind quarters?The problem was shot placement not bullet performance.
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FWIW, I've recovered one of three TSX shot into moose (.375 H&H 270 & 300 grs) farthers distance traveled: 10 feet. here is the 300 gr recovered (second from right), a bull Shiras shoulder-spinal hit: (if you're curious, those other 3 are 300 gr .454 A-frames, two recovered from a bison )
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Stubble, too quick to defend? Do not know where TSX entered or anything about the shot of the TSX. As you can imagine in NWT it is pretty infrequent that any animal is found with another bullet in it. Actually guide said that the only moose they remembered being hit and not recovered was three years and twenty mile away from where this moose met up with the partition.
I like the TSX. Shoot them in 25-06, two 30-06's, 300 H&H. Do have several more that will not shoot them however.
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Do not know where TSX entered or anything about the shot of the TSX. But we do know that the bullet was found in the hind quarters.That leaves three possibilities; 1)poor shot placement 2)proper shot placement,but the bullet veered off course at an extreme angle after striking heavy bone. 3)proper shot placement but no expansion,resulting in minimal damage to the vitals. If the bullet had struck heavy bone and deflected,one side of the bullet would have been flattened or distorted.But you yourself posted the bullet was perfectly mushroomed,so a deflection is very unlikely. Your statement about the perfect mushroom also rules out the possibility of the bullet failing to expand. Therefore,the logical explanation has to be bad shot placement.
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Certainly no argument with logic. I always hated logic in school. Could never get up on that plateau of thought.
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Well decided to test some other options also. I picked up some 30 cal 180 grain Nosler E-Tips this weekend to test for group sizes in both the 300 WBY and 300 RUM. Anyone else tried the new E-tips?
The shop also had some of the new Barnes MRX bullets in 30 cal 180 grain but wow the price per box of 20 was to hard to swallow on them so I passed.
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I've never used anything but the Nosler and have never had an issue.
The truth is they're all over-built for what's needed to tip over a moose and all are good choices.
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Barnes TSX from my 7mm Rem Mag worked here!
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Works for me! Nice moose. What's the spread? 52?? 54? Can't see the ear tips, so I'm "projecting".
For practice guessing spread, tho that one is certainly brow tine legal in my area. Love palmated brows! Those basket racks give me fits on the guessing game.
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55" and I was hunting in BC.
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Having shot a few moose, my choice would go to the TSX and that is what I'm currently using. I'm not a huge fan of the partition as I always find it in pieces. I've also had great results from the Trophy Bonded Bearclaw.
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Winchester M70 Classic Stainless .300 Winchester Magnum 180 Grain Barnes TSX 73 Grains RL 22 Winchester Case Federal 215 Primer Vel: 3010 180 Grain Nosler Accubond 75 Grains RL 22 Winchester Case Federal 215 Primer Vel 3075 Both moose were shot between 30-40 yards. 3 shots each in quick succession all behind the shoulder without hitting any major bones. Both dropped where shot without taking a step. One Accubond recovered. No TSX recovered. I've shot 6 animals with the Accubond, Kudu, Gemsbok, Zebra, Springbok, Moose, and Dall Sheep. I recovered bullets from every animal except for the Springbok. None of them went more than 20 yards. I'm now using the TSX but wouldn't feel handicapped with the Accubond
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I have killed moose and had various good or excellent bullets stay inside as well as exit. Both have happened with Speer Grand Slams, Interlockeds, GameKings, FailSafes, Bal-Tips, and Barnes X, and Nosler Partitions.
If I knew a shot would present inside 300 yards, I'd choose the copper bullet. If I knew the shot would be beyond 300, then either of the Noslers. If it could be anything - near or far, then I'd use a Partition. They may seem like yesterday's technology, old news, etc, but the Partition is still a decent multi-purpose and very viable big game bullet.
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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Slugo,
Just curious: Where do you find the Partition in pieces?
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Bet it was inside the dead moose.....
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well crapola then it had to fail 4 sure.... Dober
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