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#4345678 - 08/21/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: BlueDoe]
sbrmike Offline
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Registered: 08/13/10
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Loc: Potter County, PA
If your European barrel is marked Flaig's, I think it is safe to say the Flaig's Ace is the Douglass.
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#4345777 - 08/21/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: sbrmike]
Bandukwallah Offline
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Loc: Caroline du Nord
A.O. Niedner of Dowagiac, MI was a famous barrel maker of a slightly earlier period, the 30s and 40s, as was John Dubiel. Another maker not previously mentioned is Hart. And I seem to recall that Melvin Johnson may have supplied barrels during the 50s.

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#4346034 - 08/22/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: Bandukwallah]
greydog Offline
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Anyone remember Star "diamond lapped barrels? Not a premium barrel by any stretch (about eight bucks apiece for blanks in the late sixties to early seventies)They were a remarkably consistent barrel. Douglas was always a popular barrel; Hart was a real premium barrel.
Bauska barrels worked better than they looked. Buhmiller barrels were very good.
We used to be able to buy barrel blanks from Sako and they were good barrels. Same with Schulz& Larsen. GD

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#4352015 - 08/24/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: greydog]
gregory Offline
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The gentleman that got me hooked on guns, hunting and shooting, had Bliss Titus barrels on many of his custom built rifles. This fellow was left handed. He had Remington 721 and 722 actions converted to left hand actions. He then had Bliss install barrels. I met this man in about 1959. I watched him shoot a Bliss barreled 220 Swift and put three shots into an area smaller than a dime at 100 yards and that it for me. I've been pulling triggers ever since. By the way, I was nine years old and he told me "that group is not so hot, you should see what the pros do". My friend also had what he called a "Baby .270". It was a .30 caliber model 99 necked down, shortened and barreled to .277. Could it have started life as a .300 Savage?

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#4352030 - 08/24/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: gregory]
Calhoun Online   content
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Registered: 08/06/05
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Loc: Eastern Nebraska
Gregory, originally that 99 could have been in 303 Savage, 30-30, 300 Savage, or 308 depending on model and year. After rebarreling, might have been a "270 Savage" if he wanted it to work with minimal change to the rotors/etc. That's basically a 300 Savage cartridge necked down to .277. With a good gunsmith, could have been made into other 270 cartridges also.

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#4352555 - 08/24/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: 458Win]
Jim in Idaho Offline
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Registered: 01/29/01
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Loc: Idaho, USA
Originally Posted By: 458Win
Sam May, who owned Apex barrels, also built many great barrels.


Met an old gentleman at the range this past weekend who had a 1936 Oberndorf Mauser action with an "Apex Match Grade" barrel in .243 Winchester. Had what looked like a very old Weaver scope with no internal adjustments, the external adjustments were in the rear mount.

Pretty neat rig.
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#4352903 - 08/24/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: Jim in Idaho]
atkinsonhunting Offline
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I used most of the barrels mentioned way back then..The ONLY barrel I liked back then was Douglas, they had the modern equipment of the day, that none of the others had IMO...

Only Douglas has survived those days and its still a darn nice barrel, in fact still my second choice for hunting rifles but its a distant choice from Lothar Walthar that I use today almost exclusively...

Back then a 2 inch 3 shot group rifle was the exception, not the rule. Today its pretty easy to produce a 3 shot one inch gun, and a 5 shot one inch gun is relitively common.
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#4375237 - 09/01/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: greydog]
Yukoner Offline
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Registered: 02/06/01
Posts: 3667
Loc: Yukon Territory, Canada
Originally Posted By: greydog
Anyone remember Star "diamond lapped barrels? Not a premium barrel by any stretch (about eight bucks apiece for blanks in the late sixties to early seventies)They were a remarkably consistent barrel......


Sure do! Had a 358 Norma barrelled up with one on a 98 Mauser. Shot just fine.

Ted

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#4375626 - 09/01/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: gregory]
stocker Offline
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Registered: 10/28/01
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Loc: B.C., Canada
Gregory; The 270 Titus was a necked down 300 Savage and was originated by Bliss Titus as far as I know.

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#4377626 - 09/02/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: stocker]
butchlambert1 Offline
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Registered: 12/26/04
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Loc: Poetry, Texas
Shilen started business in 1955.
Butch

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#4377656 - 09/02/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: bucktales]
OldRooster Offline
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Registered: 09/01/09
Posts: 2250
Loc: West Virginia
Originally Posted By: bucktales
Did Flaig make their own barrels?


I don't think so. I've kinda studied up on the Flaig rifles and barrels and from what I've read he used barrels marked Bohler and later on used Douglas barrels.

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#4377963 - 09/02/10 Re: Custom Barrel Makers of the 1950's and 1960's [Re: OldRooster]
atkinsonhunting Offline
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Registered: 03/04/01
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Loc: Filer, Idaho, USA
Hmmmm, as I recall Sukalle was/is Butch Searcys father in law or something like that, guess it runs in the family. At least one of the famous old timers was his father in law or some kin. smile smile
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