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Excuse me Mr. Bristoe, but your reply doesn't make any sense.

The two VIABLE choices in November will most likely be Obama and McCain.

Wasting your vote the way you describe will simply ensure that one of forgoing candidates will defeat the other by a larger margin.

Is it that you have some sort of problem making difficult choices, or do you just feel more comfortable not making a commitment at all, so you can then sit back and take pot shots at the ultimate winner?

Please explain..........

I can't believe anyone would vote for Bush again.

In what ways are we better now that 8 friggin' years ago?

For that matter seeing the Repub's in power, both houses and the presidancy, has really soured me on them big time.

Bush has made a mess of everything he's touched. History will not be kind to the man.

Explain?

I don't like the candidates that have been presented to me by the leadership of the two dominant parties,... so I'm not going to vote for them.

*shrugg*,..what's there to explain?

If the GOP marched out Charles Manson and the Democrats countered with Rosie O'Donnell,..would you still ask me to explain?

The way I see it,.. the choices we're being presented with are on that order.

37 pages & not a single sleestack.

here ya go.


all better.

I don't know.....what is Charlie's view on judicial appointments?

I pretty much know Rosie's.

That's good ND, too good! Just to agravate the anti-thread hijacking police I am going to mix threads and tell you that as for your statement in the "Where's Bart thread" you really ought to write a book. I'd buy a copy.

I think you're overreacting, and over-perceiving a decline in the US industrial base.

China's GDP/cap (in PPP) is about 16% of USA today ($6400 vs $40000), similar to the relative ratio of Korea/US in 1970. It took Korea about 15 years to reach 1/4, and 20 years to reach 1/3 of US level. It is likely to take China the same or longer time given its huge size.

The US economy dominates the world and will continue to do so. After seeing China, I am less worried about them than I was before. And we are outperforming all the developed world economies. Precisely because we don't have the kind of government planned economy you're suggesting we need.

And I think you are looking at the economic situation through rose colored glasses. Our industrial base has been in sharp decline since the late-1970's, allow this to continue and we will suffer economic collapse. As Penguin pointed out to you, the only reason for the less than disasterous economic numbers is because of creative paper shuffling. Paper is meaningless. Real wealth lies in the tangible; factories, produced goods, and natural resources. In these areas we ain't lookin' too shiny right now.

Pardon me if I suggest that's rather outdated thinking. The power to control information and technology will determine who rules the roost going forward, not who has the most pig iron production.

US industrial output still dwarfs all our competitors, in any case.

Bristoe

"I don't like the candidates that have been presented to me by the leadership of the two dominant parties,... so I'm not going to vote for them."

Nemesis

But that's exactly my point..........

I would venture to say there is no candidate that either of the dominant parties could present to you that you would like.

Everything in the fantasy land you have created is comprised of if's, and but's and maybe's, but those of us that live in the real world, know that someone must be responsible to "haul out the trash", so we do our civic duty and vote them into office.

Not sit there and whine like a child and refuse to take part in the process because you can't have the whole enchalada......

Making hard choices is part of being an adult Mr. Bristoe, why don't you try it for once, you may find that you might even enjoy it.

I'm going to exercise my adulthood by voting the way I want to instead of the way that you want me to.

,..and yes,.. I'm going to enjoy it.

Nemesis, you are welcome to try to make that point with B, but I have worn out several keyboards trying to convince him.

Unfortunately for you,... your powers of persuasion "pro" pale in comparison to McCain's persuasion "con".

I've tried to find something positive about McCain,.. but the man just won't work with me.

Now today, he's started pandering to Hillary's backers.

Way I see it,.. unless you're an illegal immigrant who wants to close down the gunshows and combat global warming by not drilling for oil in ANWR,... you need to look at a candidate other than McCain.

Maybe the question that needs to be asked is; What you do you expect from U.S. corporations?

Do you expect them to be competitive with corporations from around the world? Are you happier if Airbus lands the big contact or Boeing? Shouldn't it come down to who can offer the better price or should all US airlines have to buy from Boeing?

Do you expect them to lose money for the good of a few, or should they just stick to making profits for their shareholders? Are they supposed to pay their employees $20/hr for a job that someone in another country will do for $2/hr? Are they suppose to stay in the US until they go bankrupt or are they allowed to relocate abroad if necessary?

Are they supposed to be patriots? I believe they're more patriotic than they may appear, the telecom companies were more than willing to share their data with the NSA to help combat terrorism. It was the Dems and their legal wing the ACLU that cried about that one, scared them with lawsuits, etc. Corporations have a long history of being helpful to US intelligence. Or is that just another example of Big Brother?

Do you expect corporations to lose money? Or is just paying their federal and state taxes enough? Exxon paid more in tax last year to the US government than their shareholders received in profits. Are you upset that they aren't "nicer" to people? Us corps donate millions to non-profits and charities in this country.

Someone in an earier post actually said, "My Fortune 400 employer matched our 401k contribution with company stock and that stock fell from $90 to $20..." Boo Hoo, So what, you should be grateful you received a match at all. They aren't required to match chit in your 401k, in fact, they don't even need to offer a plan at all.

This constant "corporation" bashing is bordering on the absurd. State what it is that you're PO'd about or move on. BTW, it doesn't make the slightest difference in this world where your corporation is headquartered, every country in the world will bend over backwards to provide you with incentives to invest. Are you happier when Mercedes opens a plant in SC? With no union pay? Are happier when Toyota moves to Ohio...into some factory that Ford pulled out of? You make it tough for corps to do business here, they will gladly re-incorporate Bermuda.

Corporate bashing is moronic and juvenile. I was in DC during a WTO protest where mostly teen aged kids used that as a forum to loot and vandalize private property. I asked one of the masked youth, why they wore the mask if he was so commited to the anti-corporate cause? He told me that he was about to graduate soon and that he didn't want get into any trouble that might hurt his chances for a "good job"...I said, "you mean like a job with a corporation?" "Yeah."

Bristoe

"I'm going to exercise my adulthood by voting the way I want to instead of the way that you want me to."

Nemesis

Go ahead Mr. Bristoe piss your vote down the tube like the other losers out there.

At least when something happens you will be able to say "I didn't vote for that guy."

And that's exactly what you wanted all along isn't it?

To go on the battlefield after the war and shoot the wounded.

John McCain may be all that you say he is, but at least he has stepped forward and volunteered to do what he can to help run this country.

Regardless of who wins in November, we can be sure of one thing, you will be right here posting your snide, Monday morning quarterbacking, 20/20 hindsight critiques of the President to anyone who will listen.

After all, that's who you are isn't it?

Me, too! I'd vote for Bush....if I liked liars....if I didn't cherish traditional American values....if I didn't mind sacrificing young American soldiers for no good reason....if I was rich....if I.....Oh, I think you get the idea.....!

dear Northern Dave - I love that you posted them sleestacks!!!

I'm almost convinced,... 20 or 30 more ignorant, insulting posts from you may push me over the top.