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Most PH's would just smile to no end if you show up with a 270. Just go with some 130 gr Nosler Partitions or the Swift version if you hand load if not go get some Federal loads in 130 140 or 150 gr in Nosler or Barnes and what ever shoots in your rifle. And You will do fine with what ever Namibia has to offer in the way of big game. The 270 is held in very high regard in Africa. I�m afraid the PH�s smile would be directed toward the visiting hunter�s wallet rather than his little .270 pipsqueak. But luckily most PHs have moral enough to follow the law and good sense and not the exchange rate.
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Dear John Frazer,
Well done! And my suggestion is that you now purchase a .416Rigby, train a lot and then a bit more. And then you should go back for that most glorious of all preys; Syncerus caffer!
Regards NAN
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A 30 06 with 180 grain premiums is as low as I'd go and I'd rate that as marginal, better the 9.3x62 or 338 Win Mag. Mountain Zebra and Oryx are tough animals, Eland weigh more than buffalo, they are ernormous; if things turn pear shaped you'll want more gun than a 270. I agree osix. The problem is, that many hunters are fascinated by foot-pound/ Joules, but forget Sectional Density and Momentum. When a flimsy Drag racer hits a very strong concrete wall at 300mph, not that much happens to the wall, but if the same wall is hit by a 60 tonnes Tank at 30mph things really start to happens. Yes, but take that drag racer and make it out of monometal like a Barnes TSX and drive it at 300MPH and it will be devastating. Speed along with proper bullet construction kills too. jorge Speed/Eo on its own isn�t worth a hoot. There also have to be weight etc in that projectile: .375HH Magnum:300grain bullet Vo: 2500fps Eo: 4164 ft/lb.22 �Aspirin�40grain �bullet� Vo: 6850fps Eo: 4168 ft/lbI personally and respectfully request to be shot be the latter! NAN
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Jim, I was hoping to see you take that pristine pre-64 m70 300 Win Mag that you just bought. I guess after watching you shoot 2" groups at 300 yards with your pre-64 270 Win you might have some confidence in that rifle. SU35, How are you? The 300 Win Mag is still on the short list-but, it tends to string horizontally for some reason. I have lots of confidence with my .270, especially since I've hunted with its near identical twin for the last 26 years, and clobbered most everything with it! Think of how that old rat would shoot if I upgraded to a 4X scope instead of that old 7/8" 2.5X . All, thank you for the input and advice. Jim
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I took all my plains game, including a huge Mountain Zebra, with a .30-06 - all with one shot. 180 grain Nosler Partitions did the job. Shot placement is key, but all went down hard and fast. For my money, nothing better than a .30-06 unless you are after bigger/dangerous game.
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Dear John Frazer,
Well done! And my suggestion is that you now purchase a .416Rigby, train a lot and then a bit more. And then you should go back for that most glorious of all preys; Syncerus caffer!
Bought the Rigby 2 weeks after getting back from the first trip ... have only shot it a few times and haven't decided if it's beyond my personal recoil tolerance. But I'll be back some time!
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Dear John Frazer,
Well done! And my suggestion is that you now purchase a .416Rigby, train a lot and then a bit more. And then you should go back for that most glorious of all preys; Syncerus caffer!
Bought the Rigby 2 weeks after getting back from the first trip ... have only shot it a few times and haven't decided if it's beyond my personal recoil tolerance. But I'll be back some time! To overcome the initial sensitivity to the .416Rigby�s recoil, I suggest you download the cartridge and use a lighter bullet. You will then be able to increase the load in suitable steps, and surprisingly fast reach the normal factory load. I used that little trick on my daughter and at the age of eleven, she was proficient with full factory loads in a 7,5 inch Super Ruger Blackhawk .44Mag.
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John, like you, I had to have a buff rifle after I got back - one bigger than the 375 I had - and I've been shooting the 458 Lott a bit, a much stronger drink than the 375, but I kind of like it. My wife thinks I have some strange tendancies; I guess she's right.
I just need someone from the 'campfire to light a fire under me and tell me they need a compadre for a buff hunt and I could get pretty well up for it. My best hunting bud just doesn't have the itch for Africa.
Gdv
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Well, I guess I'll take my .300 H&H
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Jim, what species are you hunting? I took pre-64's in .270 and .338 last month. Luckily I took both-the .270 would not group when I got there. I found a stripped screw on the front base. I used the .338 and 225 grain triple shock handloads on blue wildebeast, springbok, duiker, steenbok and oryx. I was very happy with the results, but really wanted to use the .270 on the smaller species.
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I would like to Kudu, Wildebeast, Zebra, Gemsbok, Impala, Springbok and such.
I am sorry to hear the mount hole stripped out. My pre-64 Model 70 .270 is my favorite rifle. It shoots bugholes with jsut about any 130-140 grain bullet, including Barnes.
Jim
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The 300 with 180 triple shocks would be great (I almost took that combo) or the 375 and .270 would be awesome. I hunted about 90 miles S of Windhoek and the ranges were not too long. My shots ranged from 40 yards to probably 170. The longest shot was on a wildebeast after a stalk of probably 800 yards with the last 400 yards crawling.
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