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Not really,

First God makes building blocks,then he makes living things in an orderly fashion.Finally he makes our Dad and Mom.You know like it says in Genesis and the fossil record,same,same.

Cousin Britt

Barak-

No, that still is not the one, although this one is highly reminiscent of it. It did go from amorphic blob to man in five easy steps, although for sake of the argument here, this pretty much illustrates the same false dogma.

NurseKat, all previous dates or acquaintences to the contrary, the middle "guy" is not one of us.

Gdv

[/quote]God to show up at my door and say 'Hey!' or something else concrete like that. [/quote]

He did and much more...for you.

I dunno. I wrassled against one of the first guys, and his younger brother looked like the second one.

God made the lizards tails to regenerate every time! So yes he does replace "limbs"... it's just His choice .... it's good to still pray for it though ... all prayer to God is good.

There are two senses of the word creation. One is creatio ex nihilo, which happened in an instant, all at once, from nothing. The other is creatio ex materia, which happened within time, from matter previously created ex nihilo. God can do both. We can only do the latter. Since God made all the building blocks, he can also lay claim to the credit for creating everything there is, even those things we've created ex materia. He also created all life forms ex materia. We might one day be able to do that too, but we would still require the building blocks that he created ex nihilo.

Hawkeye, that makes much more sense, thanks.

It's amazing the turn these threads take.

It's amazing the turn these threads take.
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You mean Hawkeye making sense? grin

It is amazing. When discussing politics Issac makes perfect sense and Hawk sounds nutty to me, When discussing faith in God,it is the otherway around.

Only one thing is certain,either I'm the only sane one of the three or the only real nut.

Britt

...and as is obvious, with His creation revelation and even His Biblical revelation, so far above man is He that the concept is almost incomprehendable to those that do believe.

If'n yer lookin' fer an argeemint, ya dun come to the wrong place, pilgrim.

That's because you follow revealed religion and some of us (me) follow natural religion.

You will get to meet God at the Great White Throne judgement. You won't be alone but it will feel like it.

Thanks for the itenerary, Bigbuck!!

I guess what I do not understand is how anyone can look around the Physical World and deny a Creator.Life is so unique,complex and intertwined,I cannot believe anyone could think it is happenstance.There is nothing simple in any life form.It is unimagineable to us to comprehend The Almighty.Yet everything around us proves his existance.
I wonder how many here who deny God now will pray to him on their Death Bed?????If you have ever been in Combat,you know you have prayed.
I can not quote from The Bible,but I cannot deny what I know is self evident.

All, I hope.

Yes, there are no Episcopalians in fox holes. Or is that atheists?

But, I should warn you that for those who have a solid grounding in evolutionary biology, the complexity of life forms is more likely to dissuade them from a belief in a creator who created each species as they exist today. That's because had God wished to create species already fully adapted to their current environments, they would not need to be nearly so complex as they are. Most species are complex because of the tortuous road they've traveled on the evolutionary journey to where they presently are.

For example, the rabbit has a very complex way of acquiring nutrition from the food it eats. Rabbits eat vegetable matter, then excrete it, then eat it a second time. That is a needless complexity, since there are herbivores out there who already solve the digestion problem without having to re-consume their fecal matter. If rabbits don't do it their way, however, they will die of malnutrition, because they possess the digestive equipment appropriate for a meat eater, not an herbivore, informing us that its relatively recent ancestors were carnivorous.

. . . . . or else that is the way God created the thing in the first place.