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Have any of you purchased a used Zeiss Diavari C? I am thinking of buying a rifle with one on it, both hardly used. It is a 1-inch tube 3-9x, semi-gloss black finish. Thanks!
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I see one on gunbroker new in the box for $600, so figure that is an upper limit.
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Thanks. Yes, I have found 4 of them for $600.00.
I would have to have it in hand to tell if it were made in Germany or USA and the type of glass and coatings.
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I believe the ones that are marked with a "MC" are the USA assembled ones, Lee. Is the one your looking at a 36mm or a 42mm. The 42mm were German made.
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You're right, the "MC" means made in USA. Some of the 3-9x36 were German made, too, and labeled as such. Some say "Germany", some say "3-9x36 T"
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I have not seen every example of these 3-9 Zeiss scopes, but generally if they are "T" coated they are German made. Somewhere in the late 90's, Zeiss started to make the 3-9's here in the states prior to making the Conquest series. Actually the MC designation simply means the scope has standard multi-coatings from Zeiss, not the better top of the line T coatings. Yes, you are correct, there were 3-9x36 and 42mm made in Germany. They are all great.
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Have any of you purchased a used Zeiss Diavari C? I am thinking of buying a rifle with one on it, both hardly used. It is a 1-inch tube 3-9x, semi-gloss black finish. Thanks! Lee24 ... I'll make a deal with you ... You post up the pictures of your M70 Safari Express stamped "Columbia SC" on it, and I'll tell you the exact value of your scope ...
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The exact value to you? I already know its market price is about $600. And my other Safari Express that I sold is up for sale for $2,495.00. Buy it and take your own picture.
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??? Your other safari express that you sold, is up for sale for $2,495.00??? If you sold it, how do you also have it up for sale?
regardless, I'd love for you to post a link to where it's for sale ... particularly the picture of it showing it stamped "Columbia SC" ...
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There was no 42 mm, only a 1,5-4,5x18 Diavari-"C" and a 3-9x36 Diavari-"C" (I own both and use it still, now and then).
"West Germany" = GE made (T* coating) "MC" = US made (Multi coating)
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ROE DEER, Can you tell any difference in quality? Another poster sent a PM and said he thought is German model T* was as sharp as his Swaro of the same size, way better than his Leupold Vari-X III.
I had a Conquest 3.5-10x44 which I sold off a rifle I bought used(too big for it), and it impressed me.
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WGM, The doctor to whom I sold my other .375 Safari Express has returned from safari, is not using it, and decided to sell it. He sent me photos and the price. You aren't in the market, so let's don't waste his time, or mine.
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WGM, The doctor to whom I sold my other .375 Safari Express has returned from safari, is not using it, and decided to sell it. He sent me photos and the price. You aren't in the market, so let's don't waste his time, or mine. Your lame-ass excuses are getting more pathetic by the day. What doctor did you sell it to: the psychiatrist. I would love to buy such a legendary rifle. Could you post a picture so I could inspect it? Does it have a special serial number, since it is a one of a kind? Make sure the "Columbia, SC" stamp is in the picture. And if you stamp it on the barrel, SPELL IT RIGHT! Please come back and enlighted us with your "pearls of wisdom" on the Winchester Model 70 thread: http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/2250322/page/2/fpart/37
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WGM, The doctor to whom I sold my other .375 Safari Express has returned from safari, is not using it, and decided to sell it. He sent me photos and the price. You aren't in the market, so let's don't waste his time, or mine. Lee ... and just how would you know whether or not I'd be in the market for such a rare, fine, collectible firearm? If the rifle really is for sale, I'd like to see the pictures, and talk to the Doctor who used it. $2,500 for a rifle like that is a paltry sum, considering how few of them exist ... You can PM me or reply here with the info on where I can see the ad for the rifle, the pictures, contact info for the person who currently owns the rifle, etc... And just to make sure, this is one of the M70 Safari Express rifles made at the FN plant in South Carolina, with "Columbia SC" stamped on the barrel, right?
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I'd be interested myself if WGM doesn't take it. Please send pics to me too. Thanks.
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I'm thinking the doctor he's selling it for is probably a proctologist..............You know......The one that found Lee's head in the last exam?
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Lee could have had a real Safari Express and all he had to do was supply a picture..........wouldn't have cost him a thing.
I'll make that offer to anyone who can supply a picture of a Safari Express that was factory built in Columbia.
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triggerguard1, How about I post a picture of the Winchester plant in South Carolina that you didn't know existed?
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How about you post a picture of the RIFLE in question, you know, the one rollstamped as "Made in South Carolina".
No one, esp. Matt, has said that Winchester didn't/doesn't have a plant in SC.
The point is that NO ONE (except you) ever stated that the SC plant made M70s in .375.
Post a pic of YOUR rifle, rollstamped as "Made in SC", and shut everyone up.
That you can't, 'cause it don't exist, is telling.
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Yes, Matt did say there was no Winchester plant in SC, and no Winchesters were built at the FN plant there, either.
By the way, if anyone is interested in a Model 70 built in Columbia as an FN tactical rifle, I'll sell them one, NIB. Make me an offer.
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