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Allen NEVER said it's a 10K rifle or nothing, just the best one could afford then ensure it was "combat ready" if Dangerous Game was on the menu and scoffed (and I agree) with those armchair commandos who insisted their untested rifles were just as good. If I could afford an Echols rifle, believe me I'd have a few of them and in the same PRACTICAL calibers Allen espoused. I say good for him. jorge

I'll do so.

I got it Pugs from another forumite. Thansk anyway. I just read it. I wish Allen was back. Th fireworks would be worth it! jorge

Disregard the scan. Bob captured it.

Just my opinion but I don't think MD was talking about Allen in his article. I've seen posts on here between Allen and MD and I always got the impression that MD had a lot of respect for Allen.

Cheers!
-Bob F.

Like I said earlier, if that wasn't about Allen, I'll eat my hat.

However, I don't think it was nearly as negative as it sounds on the surface. If you read the whole article titled "Sentiment", MuleDeer's point is that sentiment plays as much of a role in our rifle purchases as practicality. I think his point was from a practical standpoint, those $10k rifles could not be justified. There must be something else at play - sentiment, ie. those rifles were actually chosen as much because Allen liked them as that they were practical.

edited to add: I'm not trying to speak for JB, maybe he'll chime in at some point and give us his interpretation.

I agree that sentiment plays a large part in selection. In the case of proven reliability or accuracy or comfort with a particular make, or calibre. I love the 6.5x55 swede in swedish mausers. They are accurate low pressure butte ugly rifles that I have relied on over and over and that have never let me down. They are cheap like borscht and I would buy another tomorrow if for sale at the gun show. I would not probably call the M96 or M42B practical. That he loves a particular rifle and owns numerous, I understand and applaud.

I even allow my brother the_Shootist to fixate on 30-06. And Tikka...I even bought one to keep him happy

Randy

Reading that article sure makes me think JB was referring to Allen.

+1

I've met Allen several times. He's a genuine good guy. He's never dis'ed my choices in what I take hunting. He has strong opinions, yes. But what would these forums be without some strong opinions.

I don't know Allen personally but he took the time to respond to an email I had sent him a couple of years ago. He didn't just write a couple of sentences, no, he sent a very long and detailed response that was full of helpful information.

Likewise, Jorge is a knowledgeable fellow who has been willing to help others along the way.

Landrum

Why thank you Landrum, but I'm not even close to the same league as Allen! jorge

I don't know Allen personally either. I have read most of his postings both here and on accuratereloading, and have had a few PM discussions with him. I even bought a very nice pre-64 Model 70 action from him through the classifieds.

In all of the comments of his that I've read, I've found very little that I could argue with him over. My take on his advice is to use the very best equipment that you can afford. I agree completely with that advice. His experience with the Accubond bullet, though much broader than mine, exactly mirrors my experience using it on one game animal. I haven't used it on anything else,nor will I. I don't need to.

He has little patience with shoddy performing equipment, and neither do I. You shouldn't either! Is he opinionated and stubborn -- I suspect that he is. But then, so am I.

I too, miss Allen's sage advice. I hope he comes back on-line. The site is better served with opinions based on experience from all sides.

Tom

To bad politicians don't feel the need to use the same criteria...

I suspect Allen has his hands more than full with his business ventures these days, given the tough times banking and real estate are going through. Given that, I doubt he has any time for internet forums and the bickering and jousting that one typically encounters.

I don't think AD was any more opinionated than the rest of us but he sure had a lot of experience to bring to the table.

Add me to the list of guys that really miss Allen Day's posts.
I got a "QUICK" introduction to Allen and the respect he commanded from others. I first encountered Allen about 10-11 years ago over on the old Outdoorlife forums. I was reading these post from this obviously over confident wack job, who talked about killing lions, and all sorts of african game, Bears, Elk, etc etc. Naturally as a twently something, I assumed him to be a poser, and called him out. BIG MISTAKE! APPARENTLY, this guy was for real. He and about 20 other people let me know it too. I had one guy who e-mailed me for days reminding me I was not $hit. Allen BLASTED me for in his words "Hiding behind a internet handle" instead of posting by my name.
I had managed to ruin my Fourm reputation be for it even started. lol
I quickly dummped the handle and shut my mouth and learned some stuff for a few years. I read almost everything he posted here and over at Accurate reloading for a Decade. If he had a fan club then I guess I was a charter member!

About 3 years ago I got to see the real side of Allen. He helped me with every aspect of building the best semi-custom rifle I could afford. My Left handed MRC 1999 was not Mr Days cup of tea, but he was so helpful in helping me put it together right. I can honestly say I never went against his advice during the course of this project, and dozens of dozens of PM's (hell I hope I didn't burn him out) I totally followed his choice for my Stock choice, caliber, barrel length, scope choice.
And NO my rifle is not a .300 win mag, lol Allen was quick to suggest just that (IMAGINE THAT) , but I was honest with him; letting him know I was not comfortable going with a belted mag. I had developed a flinch with a Belted mag a few years ealier that took me a while to get rid of. He totally understood and of the
calibers I was intrested in (270,280,30-06) he suggested the time proven -06 for my all around gun. Argue with that right!
He also put me in contact with Darcey Echols, and Mark Penrod, who both spoke highly of Allens knowledge as a rifleman. Echols was a blast, we talked for over 1/2 hour and he knew I wasn't even going to have him do work. I did want a Echols Lefty stock but that never materialized in time.
Mr Day where ever you are, your conversations are missed! Would love to meet you some day, if not in this life, the next in Heaven. I know he'll be there, becuase we didn't always just talk about guns.

Allen, best of luck and hope you make it back occasionally!

I really enjoyed following Allen's discussions and appreciated his willingness to answer questions via pm. I've been checking these boards for awhile now wondering where he was and figured he may be on Safari. He sounds like a busy person so its not surprsing to hear he needs some time off line. Hope things go well for him and hope to see him on these boards again.

Joe

Allen--

Let me join the chorus of people who are pleased to have crossed paths with at this cyber campfire, and say how much I would enjoy spending time with you around a real one. Your years of experience have given you a clear vision of what is important in a serious hunting gun, and I have learned a great deal from your articulate posts.

God's speed along your path, and I hope we hear from you in the future.

Do any of these look like Allenday to you?

Could always snail mail him.

http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_za...;city=&name_style=1&tm=&tmr=

Would be the second one, the Allen E. Day in the little hamlet of Dundee, Oregon.