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He's a Muslim, after all. Thoughts?


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Not if he likes breathing. The US MIlitary would never allow it.


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make an eye appointment with your doctor

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Frightening.

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I've never seen people so scared of a Presidential candidate.

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You've never seen a socialist with seriously anti-american mentors running for president, either.

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Congress cannot delegate the legislative authority, and the President needs the Senates consent to ratify a treaty.

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Maybe you missed the possibility of the democrats getting a "super" majority.


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Originally Posted by Floridabigfish
make an eye appointment with your doctor


its a bit far fetched. I don't think hussein could do that within his first 100 days.

Still Floridabigfish, its one of your liberal wet dreams, eh?


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Originally Posted by Ethan Edwards
He's a Muslim, after all. Thoughts?


Huhh .. when did he convert? He is a Christian, although I do not care for Jerimiah Wright.

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Pretty much sums it up for me. I don't care if jug ears is a moslem or not...

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Whoever is elected will have inherited too much from the current Administration to worry about UN control.

These issues include:
1. The Federal Budget Deficit
2. Out-of-control Federal spending
3. The crippling National Debt
4. The sinking economy
5. Rising unemployment
6. Social Security funding
7. Medicare solvency
8. A bad housing market
9. A credit market crisis
10. The banking crisis
11. Global trade issues
12. Separate Wars in two countries, one of which views us occupiers, not liberators
13. International disrespect from our friends and allies,
14. Etc., etc.

If Obama (if he wins) has time to get legislation passed to put us under UN control, then he has more energy than most of us!

The only winner in all the above issues is George Bush; he gets to slink back to Texas after leaving a royal mess for the next 2 generations to live with. He (along with Dick Cheney) has managed to cripple the greatest economy in the entire history of the world!

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You are incredibly naive, a liar or just dumber than a box of rocks. All it would take for your heroes to put us under UN control is some dammed executive order after all the legislation the communists in the government have passed over the last twenty years. All the "President" would have to do is what the last ten or so have done and ignore the current real problems and create another one. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to not see this. Forget oil, the stock market, illegal aliens...space zombies, Barak Obama is the biggest threat to our way of life that this country has ever seen. That you people, even you commies, could vote for an Ameircan-hating radical activist Muslim is almost beyond comprehension. This is the internal threat that our forefathers foresaw. We have a great country here and you traitors are about to give it all away. I want NOTHING to do with anybody who votes for Barak Obama.

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Ethan, djs is none of the above. What he is, though, is a through and through lefty socialist cheer leader and hussein supporter.
Saying that it makes no difference if hussein is a muslim or not just shouts that djs has an agenda, and it is Not an agenda friendly to America.
Throw that nascent troll chadwimc in with him.


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I truly am finished with anybody I know votes for Barak Obama. I usually figure who a man votes for is his own business but this is off-the-charts and is just too important to the future of this country and freedom.

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yeah. I am keeping track of who in the 'hood has those Obama yard signs and bumper stickers too. "Know thy enemy" is making more and more sense these days.


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Far be it from me to stick up for Obama, but it looks to me like Bush, Rice, and others were on board for this.

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Originally Posted by Ethan Edwards
You are incredibly naive, a liar or just dumber than a box of rocks. All it would take for your heroes to put us under UN control is some dammed executive order after all the legislation the communists in the government have passed over the last twenty years. All the "President" would have to do is what the last ten or so have done and ignore the current real problems and create another one. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to not see this. Forget oil, the stock market, illegal aliens...space zombies, Barak Obama is the biggest threat to our way of life that this country has ever seen. That you people, even you commies, could vote for an Ameircan-hating radical activist Muslim is almost beyond comprehension. This is the internal threat that our forefathers foresaw. We have a great country here and you traitors are about to give it all away. I want NOTHING to do with anybody who votes for Barak Obama.


Probably a little of all of the above, but my point is, the new president will be incredibly busy and have his hands too full to cede control to anyone. As to signing an Executive Order, I'm afraid that you do not understand the limits or constraints of Executive Orders. Generally, they are used to direct the operations of the Federal Government. In a few cases, they do have the force of law when they are directly in response to authorization given by Congress.

And, even if any president wanted to cede control to another entity (the US, OAS, etc.) the US Supreme Court would invalidate the action. Ah ha! you say, he'd just use the military to shut down the Supreme Court and do what he wanted. Do you really think the US military would support such an unconstitutional abuse of power? - I don't.

The only major constitutional case of a president attempting to ignore a Supreme Court order (the only one I can think of) was Richard Nixon's refusal to release the Watergate Tapes; the US Marshal's Service (of the US Justice Department) said US Marshals would enter the White House and enforce the Order - the Secret Service was uncomfortable with armed Marshals entering the White House and cooler heads quickly prevailed. Nixon resigned soon after.

Mannlicher has stated that I am a socialist; I'm not certain what this means. I am well within the upper 5% of the nation income-wise and in the upper 3% net worth wise; I don't want to re-distribute my wealth, but I am very willing to pay my share of the National Debt and educate kids. I absolutely support free enterprise and private ownership of assets, but I recognize the need to help the less fortunate. So, by the way, does billionaire Warren Buffet.

Finally, I have not decided who I�ll vote for in this election, but we need real change, not just the same old �drunken spending and just increase the National Debt� philosophy of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and, George W. Bush. We can just not afford this anymore. If this makes me a socialist, I�m OK with being considered fiscal responsible.

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Ethan, djs is none of the above. What he is, though, is a through and through lefty socialist cheer leader and hussein supporter.
Saying that it makes no difference if hussein is a muslim or not just shouts that djs has an agenda, and it is Not an agenda friendly to America.
Throw that nascent troll chadwimc in with him.


Now, now, now Sam, I did not say "it makes no difference if hussein is a muslim or not", although I really don't care either way. I do want intellectually challenging and honest opinion based of facts, not untruths.

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