Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters Anyone use the 7mm 175 gr Partition in smaller cases?

As Dober said, the IMR 7828 is also a very good one with either 160 and 175 grs in your 280 AI.
Regards,

PH

About the lope hunt, saw a corker but he lived to see another day. He wouldn't of booned but he was special!

Had a completely super day out there!

Dober

Sounds like a fun day in the field. Glad you had a good time and saw a good animal.

Plus I saw a worlds supply of pd's and the Mashburn taught them a lesson or two about respect...

Dober

Enough gun? I thought that was .375 Roy territory.

Ok so I goofed up and left Warren at home...grins

Dober

Dober,
Now that was funny! grin

I have used the 175 gr. bullets in Woodligh, Nosler, Rem Core Lokt, and WW and found it to work on Springbuck, Impala, and other plainsgame. I have used them on deer and elk with perfect success..I like the 175 gr. bullets in the 7x57. I load them with H414 to 2600 FPS in my long throated rifle, and they perform about like a 180 gr. 30-06 and that is no slight praise...

I can also take shots with more angle including going south shots, and know that I am going to reach the vitals, even on larger animals.

I observed an elephant kill with a heart shot with one of the Woodleighs and it was rather impressive to my surprise, lots of blood and the bull ran less than 100 yards. I shot a couple of buffalo with that same load, in fact with that same borrowed gun.

Don't make decisions on bullet selection until you try them yourself, too many opinnions out there. Some just surmising, some making false claims, some passing on what they read, and so fourth..All this gets confusing, and you can come up with the wrong answer pretty easy.

Go try them yourself. The Nosler and Woodleighs work well on anything, the WW is soft and a good deer bullet, as is the Rem Corelokt but the corelokt is tougher, and the Hornady is real tough, at least hat has been my experience, but do your own investigation and pick yourself a good 175 gr. bullet that works for you, and you will really like it is my guess..It has been proving itself in Africa for ions on all manner or game...

Not saying the 130, 140, 150, and 160, don't have a place, they do and they are great bullets also..I love the 130 gr. Speer on deer and smaller antelope, just don't discount the 175 especially on the larger stuff, that is why they have it out there..

The 7x57 is the most versatile caliber I know of, it is the smallest caliber that I would hunt any animal on earth with, might not be my first choice, but I would be comfortable with it and I would choose the 175 gr. bullet.

Coming from you, that is no faint praise. And I'm gratified that you esteem one of my favorite hunting caliber/bullet combinations.

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The last moose I shot was with a 7x57 mauser and a 175 partition loaded to a moderate velocity--worked like a charm. I do use lighter bullets in it on deer size game -- not to say that I wouldn't use the 175's if thats all I had.

LawMan

A month or so back I loaded some of the old Barnes soft point 195 grain .284 bullets for a friend with shoulder problems. These were 7X57 cases. 40 grains of 4350 powder.

I have a few boxes of the old style Nosler 175 grain partitions and offered them in stead. He wanted the Barnes. To make a shorter story to this, he killed his moose the next week and was happy. I bet the velocity was not over 2200 fps.

He proves the point to what I tell people all the time. "It does not take a lot of powder to kill game".

Now you guy's have me about to buy some 175 partitions for my new 7X57! grin

Check out the following for the 175 grain "seconds" I picked up:

Reloading International

Enjoy!

I been stuffing 175 gr Nosler Partitions in a 7 x 57 that I had because it was the only bullet the rifle would shoot half way well. Killed just about every thing I ever shot with that rifle with one shot. I also did a whole safari with the Old Screw Machine version out of a 7mm Remington Mag and a case full of Surplus 4831. My guess MV was around 2700 fps or so. Killed everything with no real problems. I would not even give it a thought with a 7 x 57 so loaded today.

My experience with the 175 Partition in the 7x57 mirrors Atkinson's, except I have never seen it used on really dangerous game. It knocks the snot out of deer-sized game, as well as working very well on bigger stuff. In my experience it does indeed pretty much work like a 180 in the .30-06, something I pointed out in an article I published a couple of years ago. It might even penetrate slightly more.

Nosler uses exactly the same medium-soft lead alloy in the front end of all Partitions, the reason they all expand so readily.

I have also combined the 175 Partition and IMR7828 in the .280 Improved with great success. Even in a 22" barrel this powder will safely get 2800+ fps, usually with fine accuracy.

Try PM'ing Dogzapper; he has some interesting experiences with that bullet.

I have talked with Steve about his 175 7mm experiences, and from what I recall they were mostly used by elk hunters he guided from magnum cartridges at relatively short ranges, say out to 250 yards.

I have seen some NP 175's not do so well under the same circumstances in Africa. I suspect what happens is the front end blows totally off, leaving a relatively small frontal area to punsh a hole through the lungs. At least that is what I have seen a few times. The animal dies, but sometimes not so quickly.

In smaller cartridges, with a muzzle velocity of 2500-2800, it seems to open up less violently, retain more "mushroom" and hence make a bigger hole. I have seen it do spectacular work not only on bigger game like moose and zebra, but smaller stuff like impala and deer. Which is one of the reasons the 7x57 is still so popular 116 years after it was introduced.

I shoot the 175's almost exclusively in my 7 Mag. I have shot more big game with a 7x57 and a 160 Nosler partition than anything else, both here and in Africa. I have lately been using my 7x57 with 140 TSX's in the 7x57 for deer, all have died.

For those who have good strong Mausers or comm. rifles I suggest you try H414..YOu can load beyond most of the manuals as they are taking into consideration the numbers of M-96 and 95s etc that are not as strong...

I use an 06 size magazine and follower and have my chamber cut to take a loaded 175 gr. Nosler seated to .284 depth in the case mouth...In every case the 130 gr. Speer has to take a big jump but it has not had any effect on accuracy in any of the guns that I have owned..

BTW, I can get 2900 plus with a 160 gr. Nosler by doing this, but only with the long throated guns and only with H-414..I won't give a load as I fear someone might try it in a short throated gun and it may be too hot, but it is considerably beyond book max..

Thanks Ray for your insite on 7x57 developement.

So you are confident H4350 won't do the same as H414? Mine should be completed after the first of the year, i can hardly wait! I have a bunch of 140gr solid bases to put through it but once they're gone it will be 160s for then on.