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Hey, atavist

You have a lot more intelligence than I had given you credit for.

Man, you catch on quick!

Che Guevara----------a poster child for Communism. The soft-headed left still mourns his death for some reason.

Penny,

While I'm not known as exactly pious and a follower, I am better for your and Barak's being here and speaking to us all.

The recent attack on Barak...and thus you...isn't something to be tolerated by anyone!
DO YOU HEAR ME, atavist !!

NOW, everyone here put this rock-dweller on your "ignore" list.

Penny

Thanks for clarifying. It does indeed show what kind of person you are.

Penny

atavist - You retreat all too quickly. Your Batman reference is cute, but rather irrelevant; I haven't heard anyone make claims to Batman as being true or the Messiah, so a detailed study in Batman would be pointless.

Religion has caused a lot of strife in this world, on that you and I agree. But this is somewhat of a cliche arguement as well, and the one that all uninformed critics quickly take because it's easier to criticize than do your homework.

Most every great stride in this world for good has been brought about by religion, and most often it's Christian religion. The rights you have today in this nation, and the values we all hold dear such as life and liberty are Judeo-Christian in origin.

Religion has been hijacked for evil and will continue to be hijacked for evil because here on earth, religions are administered by man, and as such are ripe for the pickings. But God is rather anti-religion, and very pro-relationship.

Nowhere in The Bible do you find any sort of justification for The Inquisition or other horrors committed in the name of God. You also wont find anything in The Bible that says you should answer to any religious figure here on earth such as the Pope, or a Bishop or a Mulluh or any other such figure. The Bible has you answer to God, and gives you free access to God.

The problems with religion is when man seizes power through religion. But if you're going to blame that on religion, then we must blame the same thing on atheism when a non-religious figure seizes power and does evil (Polpot, Staliin, Hitler etc.).

So, your "issue" with religion is not a religion issue, but a human nature issue. Evil persists with or without religion, so I don't see how any student of history can blame it all on religion.

On the other hand, religion has done a tremendous amount of good and has really changed the world for the better. Just take a look at The Reformation which was kicked off by one guy who actually got to read The Bible himself, and found that the Catholic Church had been hijacked for evil.

Martin Luthor set in place much of the liberties that most of the world enjoys today; and established the mass morality that gave us all the moral fortitude to resist evil. That's pretty good stuff.

Very well said. Anyone who blames evil in the world on Christianity is either just plain non-observant, or comes to Christianity with a hostile agenda.

The chief problem humans have is the problem of the human heart. That Christianity fails to turn everyone into a righteous automaton is not the fault of the gospel message. It's the fault of those hostile to the truth of the message and those who refuse to hear and/or respond to the message. Yes, some in both categories do profess to believe the message, but that's not an indictment of the gospel -- it is just one more indictment of the human heart.

It's less threatening to take shots at the gospel than to admit your sinfulness and commit to the change that the gospel calls for.

Steve

And if man had written the bible on his own, he certainly would not have condemmed himself or told of the mass slaughters of entire villages that took place back in old testament times. Man wants to look good to all other people.

WOW! What a bunch of clowns, so much christian blather and not a lick (nearly, there were one or two) of christian ethos. You have made my point better than I ever have, thank you. I seem to remember something from the bad old days about as you treat the least of his children you treat him. It is quite obvious you think I am certainly lesser if not least. When someone asks what my problem with religion is I will show them this thread. Thanks again.

Here you are responding to me again, and I have posted nothing at all that should offend you. I've not directly addressed a single post you're made, I've not called you any name, I've not even disparaged your unbelief. I've merely addressed these issues from a Christian and a biblical perspective in as inoffensive way as possible.

Now that you've replied to me for the third time, how can I take your clown comment as anything but a personal insult, and one without provocation? Feel free to show this thread to anyone -- it will be clear to anyone who is not hostile to Christianity that you are the provocateur. Until now I've given you the benefit of the doubt, but now I think it's time for you to go play your little anonymous game somewhere else.

Steve

I think a strong case can be made that the role of Mary Magdalene in the early church (and her relationship to Jesus) has been obfuscated by the Roman church, but I wonder if the power struggle was more between Paul (Saul) and James, the brother of Jesus.

Well there was certainly a power struggle between those two no doubt about it.

Which book are we talking about. The whole Mary Magdalene thing was settled about 200 years ago. Dan Brown and his ilk are just re-hasing old history. The most credible documents are the early church letters.

it's easy to see that the Bible is one of the spiritual books. then, it is divided into two parts. some place equal emphasis on the old and the new. some prefer the old, and some place greather emphasis on the New part.

there's other spiritual books as well. the Jews and the Muslims have their versions of the truth. the Hindu's have the Upanishads? very, very old, and very much relevant to the world that we live in.

the Native Americans are often ascribed to have possess the "other" book of the Bible, Nature itself.

then, there's others, who have pretty much died out, as ecological advancement of ideas have progressed. the Egyptian book of the dead, and other books of the Dead.

is the Bible important? of course. is it the only spiritual book for those who walk the Earth? of course not. but, it does serve a need.

I gave the book I was reading listed earlier. Margaret Starbird has written a number of books on Mary Magdalene. She also does lectures on Magdalene. Ms Starbird is a trained Roman Catholic scholar. You can Google her name and get all you want to know.

I think the problem with all this is that it is hard for Roman Orthodox Christians to accept that there maybe another side of the story to the Christian story. There are always two sides to any story based on some degree of truth.

The book you choose to believe is the one that dictates your eternal future. Be very careful.