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The first new rifle I ever bought was a .270 post-64 Model 70 featherweight. Good looking stock, and sub-moa accurate with factory 140 gr. Hornady Interlocks. Awesome on deer. Last several years I have been using an accurized Rem 700 Classic in .25-06. Against my better judgement, I recently sold the .270 to fund a custom rifle project. But I'm already thinking I should have kept it, and now I'm looking at a Rem 700 LSS Mountain Rifle in .270 that has caught my eye. Gotta do my part to help the economy, you know.
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I actually think that there are four guns that a self respecting looney should never own: .270 Win, .280 Rem, 7mm Rem Mag and 30-06. Own one of them, and making an even semi-factual argument as to why you need to own others is tough. The only defense is to own them all so that you speak knowledgably about the differences between them as an ideal all-arounder.
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i think the only real argument between which is better 270 or 280 would have to do with bullet variety. im thinkin there is a better selection of bullets in the 7mm category than the 270 so maybe its a bit more versatile and a bit better
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CrimsonTide: Geez man! What are you trying to do here? Mostly I've found well informed folks on this site. How did you mange to slip in here?
I hope my wife never meets you. A 270 is totally inadequte for pronghorn. No respectable pronghorn would be taken with anything less than a 257 Weatherby. For caribou, a 6.5 x 55 is perfect. Mule deer will require a 7 mm Rem Mag, and should you do elk, at least a 300 Winchester. If you move to the timber for elk or decide to do bison a 45-70 is an absolute must. With black bear the 30-06 is perfect. Basically, every species requires a specific well tuned rifle. I could go on for ground squirrels, coyote, rabbits, bobcats, mt lion, hogs, etc, but I think you get the picture. I even have rifles for species that haven't been invented yet. Should I ever luck out and draw a bighorn tag, there's nothing in the safe that will suffice. Again, stay away from my wife. 1Minute Thank you. please explain that to my girlfriend, who thinks one gun will do everything because her dad has hunted for 40 some years and only owns one rifle
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i think the only real argument between which is better 270 or 280 would have to do with bullet variety. im thinkin there is a better selection of bullets in the 7mm category than the 270 so maybe its a bit more versatile and a bit better Variety of bullets is overrated when you have the 130 gr NPT.
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CrimsonTide: Geez man! What are you trying to do here? Mostly I've found well informed folks on this site. How did you mange to slip in here?
I hope my wife never meets you. A 270 is totally inadequte for pronghorn. No respectable pronghorn would be taken with anything less than a 257 Weatherby. For caribou, a 6.5 x 55 is perfect. Mule deer will require a 7 mm Rem Mag, and should you do elk, at least a 300 Winchester. If you move to the timber for elk or decide to do bison a 45-70 is an absolute must. With black bear the 30-06 is perfect. Basically, every species requires a specific well tuned rifle. I could go on for ground squirrels, coyote, rabbits, bobcats, mt lion, hogs, etc, but I think you get the picture. I even have rifles for species that haven't been invented yet. Should I ever luck out and draw a bighorn tag, there's nothing in the safe that will suffice. Again, stay away from my wife. 1Minute In Alabama you got to have a 300 winny for clear cuts,30-06 for harwood bottoms,308 for beanfields,7-08 for cornfields,280 for hunting in pine timber,30-30 for open swamps,45-70 for thick swamps,a good BAR of any caliber for drives even my wife knows a 270 just good on the green fields
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Variety of bullets is overrated when you have the 130 gr NPT.
Couldn't have said it better myself........
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This is a great thread. I have been shooting the same .270 (700 BDL Custom Deluxe) for almost 35 years. Lately I have been toying with buying a new rifle to "replace" the .270. I have been researching different guns and calibers for the past few weeks. I have yet to decide on which gun I plan to buy but I'll be darned if I can find any good reason (for me) to buy anything other than a .270! I even purposely exposed myself to a bad strain of "magnumitis" but I must be immune because I didn't catch it!
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ME The only change I'd make would be to get it in a Mod. 70 FWT.
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Relax my friends. If you want to buy a safe full of rifles for every hunting condition, that is perfectly alright with me. I even see the use in a lightweight rifle, but I am nearly convinced that it will be a .270 when it shows up.
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My trusted 338 is gathering dust since I succumbed to the "dangerous" 270. I'm sure it has always been a great cartridge but bullets like the NPT and my favorite, the TSX, have made it even better. A 7x6 bull elk last year and a moose this year never knew what hit 'em. About the only thing (in north amaerica) that will make me grab the 338 again would be a chance at a big bear.
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The 30-06 is indeed a fine round, and the one others are compared to. I have the 270 Wicnchester and 30-06 Springfield. Love them both. But in all honesty they do much the same thing and I would be comfortable with either one. The 30-06 has one benefit, in that there are more varied factory rounds out there, and it shoots 110-200gr well if loaded properly. Which is better will fill the writer mags for ever, or until they finally outlaw our guns. But that is a different thread for a different forum. Dan
"no sense messin' 'round with the kids (270, 280, Whelen) when you can just go with the daddy -- 30-06 -- a round that was invented before the word gack."
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I have owned and used 270's since the mid 70's. I load it down a bit for most deer hunting and the 150 grain Speer, Hornady or Nosler Partition loaded to top velocity do all my large chores. My present 270 is my loaner rifle and everyone that uses it wants to buy it.
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30-06 "The No-Gack Round"
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30-06 "The No-Gack Round" Nice....grins Cept I thought it was the 06 Improved aka the .270... Dober
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Actually, I've been thinking in the other direction lately: the "270 Improved" is actually the -06!!! As you know and have stated many times, it's mostly all gack when it comes cartridges, bullets do the work.
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Thanks for the post because I have been having a dabate a day with my self 270 or 270 wsm. Today the 270 wins out. Unless you handload, the .270 Win would be my choice. Even though I do handload, the .270 Win would be my choice - if I need more I'm going to use MORE. That's what my .300WM is for.
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A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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The best-selling long rangebig game cartridge ever commercially produced;it had no military use to establish it as one of the most popular hunting cartridges of all times.Proven on every continent on the globe and used on so many types and sizes of big game it would impossible to calculate.
Everything that was invented to compete with it has choked on its' dust, including the 284,7/08, 280,etc ad nauseum. The 270 WSM will never approach it in game tallied or popularity.Besides, the 270 does its'work with a 22" barrel while the WSM needs 24";even then it only has 100 fps advantage over the Winchester round.The "advantage" of the short action is off-set by a longer barrel. In the end, nothing is gained,and the short action is a silly reason to buy a cartridge anyway.
Among commercial rifle cartridges(non-military)only the 7 Rem Mag has come close to matching the 270's' universal appeal.
Sure it's dangerous;it sort of eliminates the need for anything else in its' category. Guys buy other cartridges, thinking they'll "do better"(me,too).In the end, they don't.....
At the end of the day, there are really only two big game cartridges; the 270 Winchester and the 375H&H.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I actually like the .30-06 better, but I have both.
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