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Mule Deer: In a past post did you indicate Nosler may be reintroducing the 200gr .338 ballistic tip. Hope so as it should be great for the .338Fed.
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Not that I know of. The 200 .338 AccuBond replaced it. This is essentially the same bullet but bonded.
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battue-I think you got that idea from something I said about the 200's. JB mentioned the idea of another 200/338 slug coming out by Nozler and I got excited and thought it was the NBT. (that's perhaps my all time fav 338 slug).
In retrospect I think he was speaking of a 200 ET...?
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Dober-Yes that was the tread and I was hoping the same. I have nothing against the accubond, I just have never been able to have them shoot to the same accuracy level as most BTs. More than adequate for sure, but not the same. Probably me and not the bullet.
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Just look for Winchester's Combined Technologies 200gr Ballistic SilverTip. Same thing and can still be found relatively easily...
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If Noz had kept the 200gr BT, I might still have my 338! Some elk killing mojo in those bullets!
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The Nosler 200 gr. BT is the best all-round bullet for the .338-06 and I'm glad I have a good supply hoarded away. IMHO the Accubond, in the words of the late Jeff Cooper, is the answer to a question nobody asked.
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Actually a lot of people did ask for the AccuBond, which is essentially a plastic-tipped Partition. And from the way it is selling, Nosler did the right thing, even if some people don't agree.
I had forgotten about the 200-grain .338 Ballistic Silvertip. That is indeed the same bullet as the .338 Ballistic Tip, just in different colors.
One reason Nosler probably decided to discontinue the 200 .338 BT was that a lot of people assumed it was a "soft" bullet, even many people who should have known better. Those who used it, however, soon found out it was just a killing machine.
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One reason Nosler probably decided to discontinue the 200 .338 BT was that a lot of people assumed it was a "soft" bullet, even many people who should have known better. Those who used it, however, soon found out it was just a killing machine. Yep. Kind of like the old 270-gr .375 BallTip...now sadly gone the way of the AccuBond. Scott
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Now if we could just get Speer or Hornady to make a plain old cup-n-core .338 180 grain bullet for the Federal I'd be happy. JB, crack some skulls for us Somehow, I just don't see how that bullet wouldn't sell??
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Dan-I'd enourage you to just use the plain old 200 Horn and be on with it. I've found it to be incredibly accurate and capable as well.
I was running the runt 33 no doubt that's the bullet I'd be using.
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I like the 200 Hornady in my .338 Fed, but would truly like to see a Speer and Hornady bullet in the 180-185 gr range. Remmy CoreLoct would be fine, too.
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Dober, I do use quite a few 200 Speers in the Midget 33. They work well for me, and 2500 is quite do-able. I just like being in the 2700 neighborhood, as most of my other serious hunting calibers are. Inside 400 yards a 338 180 bullet really isn't any different than a 180 30-06 or a 165 bullet out of a 308 in terms of trajectory. So instead of learn a new trajectory, I'd rather make the rifle conform to the one thats already burned into my memory. I've shot quite a few 180 Accubombs in the Midget, now I just want a cheaper alternative. But yeah, you're right, the 200's roll smoke just fine I ended up using 210 Partitions this year as it was one of the only loads I had worked up in time for Fall Bear. My wifey made a good whitetail buck get sick in a hurry with that pill going 2500. She later told me "That F#$%ER flat dissapeared!!"
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Also, I think a Speer Hot-Cor at 180 grains in a 33 Midget would be all the bullet you'd need anywhere in Montana. If that bullet was available, I wouldn't be buying Accubombs anymore, or feel the need to try the TSX/TTSX Come on JB, crack some skulls at Speer Dennis and I can't be the only two guys thinking we need a 338 180 grain cup-n-core???
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Dan... Agreed. Here's another thought I had in this thread...Remington makes an 8mm 185 gr PSPCL, which is a good-looking bullet. If they bumped it up to .338, it would run maybe 190-195 gr or so. I could like that a lot, at 185-190-195 gr. And it would be cheap . I like the 185 TSX for killing, but could happily shoot a 185 gr Remington PSPCL at 2600 fps out of my RSI. Let's keep the pressure up... . Dennis
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This is true rifle loony thinking...and I mean that in the best possible way, give or take.
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Thank you... . I do know this to be true...just heartwarming to be recognized publicly... . Dennis
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This is true rifle loony thinking...and I mean that in the best possible way, give or take. Hi, My name is Dan, and I'm a Rifle Loony... [Group says HI DAN!!] I knew I had a problem back in 95 when I built a Model 7 in 6.5-308 Then I was in denial and spent a year hunting with a 30-06 and factory 180 Core-Lokts.... [group bows their heads and assumes the worst] Then I moved into a cabin on the edge of civilization with an entire National Forest out my back door and my own private 1000 yard range [half the group gets up and leaves to go outside and smoke a cigarette] After 5 years of living completely under the radar and burning countless 5 and 8 Lb jubs of gunpowder, I decided to buy a house in the civilazation and spend some time in front of the Brain Vacuum on the "Fire" [Remaining part of the group now sobbing hysterically] Now I only go to the range once or twice a week, and limit myself to taking 3-4 rifles and a 22.... But I don't let it run my life... I have it under control, I swear [the biggest guy in the group bitch-slaps me and says "Wake up MAN!!!] But really... The world NEEDS a 338" cup and core bullet. Crap, Dennis and I would probably be good for 1500 a year, easy
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But really... The world NEEDS a 338" cup and core bullet. Crap, Dennis and I would probably be good for 1500 a year, easy The world needs a .338" 185-190 gr cup and core bullet... ...just to be clear. Hi, my name is Dennis and I'm a rifle looney...I knew I had a problem back in 1984 when I bought two identical Ruger 1A's in 7x57 Mauser... Thanks, Dan...is JB your sponsor? Dennis
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My name is Chip, and my rifle-briety has suffered a major setback with the realization that I do not own a 9.3X62. I know this will be my last..(he he he) I am just sure of it! I even have the perfect donor action! Yep, clear sign that my problem is not even a problem....to me at least!! grin
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