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Bush spent more--it's not even close.......at least not yet.....


Casey

Jeff

You and I chat and get along, but on this statement about obama better than GW, you are a friggin idiot to me on that one. Once you no longer own anything, we can talk again. Geez... wake up dude.

Jeff

Barak,

In principle I agree with what your saying, but the current economic climate has been brought about as much by the actions of private Big Business partiularly in the Finnacial/Banking sectors as it has by the actions of Governments.

Some will go further and say that Governments need more power to regulate industry so as to stop this happening again in the furture and it was the actions of certain private institutions after industry deregulation which was the final straw that broke the camels back...

LBJ and Carter were aces compared to this guy!

Except that he won't take ownership for it unless it succeeds (which it won't).

MM

I disagree with your characterization of "Baby Bush," believing him to be a man of principle, although at times confused, and very gracious. He was dealt very serious problems and I will grant he did not handle them very well.

Your characterization of him infers arrogance which I believe is patently untrue. In fact, I believe the opposite, that he was a caring and humble man.

From 2006 through 2008, the Democratic controlled congress controlled GWB's purse strings. This is ALL the fault of Democrats who are running unbridled with the economy.

Worst POTUS ever?

Lincoln.

Thus far, though polling hasn't stopped yet.

you remind me of a song Jeff.............."still crazy after all these years"

You are out of your mind....

You must be very young.

You really don't have a clue, do you? miles

You're a friggin' idiot.

Already driven the country deeper into debt, in less than two months, than GWB did in 8 years. Already undermined security to a degree that makes Carter look like a hard-liner. Already installed a regime that makes Nixon and Clinton both, combined, look like a convent when it comes to tax-evasion and law-breaking.

Yep, you're a friggin' idiot. Thanks for voting to screw the rest of us.

He's consistent in his delusions anyway

Well...........he was from the gummint!

Seems his political acumen is about like his hunting acumen.....

He read it somewhere, but never tried it himself, 'til he shot (or got shot) in the azz with it.

Reference was to Carter from Barak's post. Not picking on JeffO.

Well, you weren't.

Weren't what?

Everything is "[bleep]" with you these days--you not getting enough or what?.........


Let's review here:

--The Bush Bailout authorized 800 billion to an exalted few Wall Street firms. With a bipartisian vote by the way...

--Within a few weeks of passage, TARP shelled out 250 billion to those above mentioned firms.

--In the intervening months, another 150 billion has been spent.

--30-50 billion of that 400 billion has disappeared--most likely towards Wall Street "bonuses"....we will never see that money again.

--One of those Wall Street firms has now recieved 180 billion--AIG

Now, we have the Obama Bailout:

--Just like TARP, the "Stimulus" bill authorizes 800 billion to be spent on everything TARP doesn't.

--The Stimulus is spread out over 5 years.

--The peak spending occurs in 2010 and 2011 with about 250 billion spent each year.

Now let's put this in perspective:

--It appears AIG will recieve more TARP money in 6 months than the three most populus states will in 5 years with the Stimulus.

--The federal government has never spent 250 billion dollars in a few weeks--never. Even with war, even with a 3 trillion budget.....



Both of these Bailouts are terrible, and may very well be America's undoing.

Obama may be off to a fast start, but he still has a long road to hoe to catch up with Bush's spending.


Casey

When history looks back it will be Clinton hands down, did the most long term damage to this country than anyone.

We are just now harvesting what he planted....

9/11, dot com blowup, housing bubble and the current world wide financial meltdown, all have their roots to Clinton and co.

Tony