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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"

Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."

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Heard that on the radio this AM.

A little more detail from The Daily Worker:
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Eight charged in Point Hope caribou slaughter

WANTON WASTE: At least 37 of the herd were left to rot on tundra.

By JAMES HALPIN
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Published: March 16th, 2009 05:31 PM
Last Modified: March 17th, 2009 07:35 AM

Eight people have been charged with indiscriminately gunning down dozens of caribou on the Arctic tundra near Point Hope last summer, sorting through the carcasses and salvaging meat from only the most pristine animals, according to documents filed in Kotzebue Monday.

Court records describe an opportunistic hunt, with groups of young adults out collecting bird eggs or hunting over the Fourth of July weekend opening fire with .17- and .243-caliber rifles when crossing paths with animals from the massive Western Arctic Caribou Herd.

More than 100 animals were apparently killed. But Alaska Wildlife Troopers traversing the 40-mile Suicide Trail about 25 miles east of town found 25 distinct kill sites in which the meat from at least 37 caribou had been left to rot, with some calves still trying to suckle milk from the decomposing cows.

The number of wasted animals may actually have been higher, but evidence from bones and remains documented on the tundra weeks later was inconclusive.

"We just couldn't determine whether or not they were properly salvaged or not because they were badly decomposed or they were scavenged by predators," troopers spokeswoman Beth Ipsen said. "This was a lot of kill sites, widely scattered along a 40-mile trail system. Some were found in singles or pairs and they were all located within a short distance of the trail."

The discovery and a subsequent lack of cooperation from community elders launched an eight-month investigation, replete with phone taps, undercover operations and examination of Pepsi cans left in the area.

Confronted by mounting evidence, many of the suspects eventually opened up to investigators and offered a litany of excuses for the kills and wasted meat, the charges say.

In one case, a hunter dressing his kill nicked the animal's stomach, spilling its contents onto the meat and apparently ruining it in the hunter's view, the charges say. Other hunters killed caribou only to find they had been previously shot, or had lumpy livers, or had been hit in an undesirable location like the back. Sometimes, the hunters simply killed more caribou than they could haul back on their ATVs, which were already loaded up with murre eggs.

None of the excuses was good enough, according to troopers, who at one point called the killings "by far the worst case of blatant waste" they had ever seen.

"Alaska law requires all hunters to salvage the edible meat of the animal and does not allow for hunters to leave edible meat in the field based on speculation that the meat is inedible or ruined," the charges say.

Charged with wanton waste, failure to salvage meat, or both are Point Hope residents Lazarus C. Killigvuk, 25; Randy John Oktollik, 26; Roy Oktollik, 18; Brett Oktollik, 20; Koomalook M. Stone, 18; Chester W. Koonuk, 29; Aqquilluk Hank, 30; and Roy A. Miller, 20.

Troopers first learned about the slaughter from an anonymous tip and, after verifying the death toll in late July, approached village officials in the community of 700 people about 330 miles southwest of Barrow. Instead of cooperation, however, troopers got stonewalled.

Many leaders in the Inupiat Eskimo village were skeptical of the reports, saying details of the killings had been exaggerated and that troopers were handling the case unprofessionally.

They launched their own investigation in which they were unable to find evidence of slaughter or waste, Jack Schaefer, the president of the Native Village of Point Hope, told the Daily News in August. Elders were convinced no wrongdoing had occurred, he said.

As a result, troopers recruited an informant charged with illegally importing alcohol who agreed to help in exchange for a reduced sentence, according to the charges. With troopers listening in, the informant called Koonuk and others, who then discussed the hunt, the charges say.

"Koonuk stated that his grandparents told him that if anything was wrong with the organs to leave the caribou in the field," he told troopers in a subsequent interview, the charges say.

In late July, Schaefer sent a letter to Gov. Sarah Palin regarding the "caribou die off" in which he accuses troopers of handling the case poorly and asks for the village council to be able to handle the necessary punishment, if any.

The Department of Law responded in an August letter that the investigation was ongoing and no decision would be made until it was completed. On Monday, Palin spokeswoman Sharon Leighow said the request was still pending.

"Talking about potential punishment before any trial would be premature and unfair to those involved," Leighow said in an e-mail.

Schaefer and other officials did not return calls to the Native village and city offices Monday. Attempts to reach the defendants were unsuccessful.

Andrew Peterson, an assistant attorney general at the state's Office of Special Prosecutions and Appeals, said he couldn't comment specifically on the case, which could be tried in either Kotzebue or Point Hope itself, because it is ongoing.

"This is still an open investigation," Ipsen said. "It could go even longer, because we still believe there's more people involved."

Wanton waste is a misdemeanor that carries a maximum penalty of one year in jail and a $10,000 fine. Failing to salvage at least the hindquarters carries a mandatory penalty of at least seven days in jail and a fine of at least $2,500.

Find James Halpin online at adn.com/contact/jhalpin or call him at 257-4589.

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In late July, Schaefer sent a letter to Gov. Sarah Palin regarding the "caribou die off" in which he accuses troopers of handling the case poorly and asks for the village council to be able to handle the necessary punishment, if any.

The Department of Law responded in an August letter that the investigation was ongoing and no decision would be made until it was completed. On Monday, Palin spokeswoman Sharon Leighow said the request was still pending.



So who will get to administer punishment?


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Now, if the state follows through!!!!!!!!
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I'm really surprised the state has gone this far.

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The State has guts to follow thru!! Kudos to them. Now where are the enviro wackos like PETA and other bottom dwellers!


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i'd like to see how they are going to pay their fines !

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Originally Posted by splattermatic
i'd like to see how they are going to pay their fines !


How about 1 hour of community service for every dollar they are fined? A $10,000 fine and 5 years supervised probation to complete the community service or 2,000 hours of community service each year for the next 5 years.

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Many leaders in the Inupiat Eskimo village were skeptical of the reports, saying details of the killings had been exaggerated and that troopers were handling the case unprofessionally.

They launched their own investigation in which they were unable to find evidence of slaughter or waste, Jack Schaefer, the president of the Native Village of Point Hope, told the Daily News in August. Elders were convinced no wrongdoing had occurred, he said.



If they are a native corporation, sue the corporation at x amount per animal. The whole village should pay for obstruction of justice.


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SHOOT SHOVEL SHUT_UP!! end of stor madey

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I'm not gonna say it.

I'm not gonna say it.

I'm not gonna say it.

Oh, Heck, I'M GONNA SAY IT!

Klikitarik was dead on- it was adolescents or early 20-somethings.

And I was right- these are all scions of village VIP's.

Frankly - I'm surprised at some of the names. And at some names that I didn't see....

I am not surprised at the excuses- common practices when I was there. apparently it still is.

I suspect (hope) in 20 or 30 years, these same miscreant individuals will be giving good advise to the younger hunters - and probably being ignored.

A lack of effective discipline, including law enforcement, is not conducive to much changing, generationaly. Humans of whatever culture seem to learn best the hard way....


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Reading the comments on ADN was most amusing....


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"They launched their own investigation in which they were unable to find evidence of slaughter or waste, Jack Schaefer, the president of the Native Village of Point Hope, told the Daily News in August. Elders were convinced no wrongdoing had occurred, he said."

Isn't it amazing how they can find what they want rather than just fullow what the evidence leads to? Charge the "elders" with obstruction of justice and make sure they serve time in a jail cell for it.

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Originally Posted by splattermatic
i'd like to see how they are going to pay their fines !
I'm sure the native corp in that part of Alaska will hook them up nicely with a big fat dividend payment. Or maybe Obama will give them some bailout money....


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As appalling as this whole sorted mess is, those who want to make it racist need to remember that when the King Salmon air base was open and supplied four wheeler (actually most of them in those days had only three) and snow machines to off duty GI's ( of appx the same age) the slaughter and wanton waste around King Salmon and Naknek often was as bad.
We all need to voice our displeasure at the act and make sure all culpable parties are punished.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear


If they are a native corporation, sue the corporation at x amount per animal. The whole village should pay for obstruction of justice.


Good thought.

I know it's not politically correct to say it, but indians/natives seemed to have often lost the idea of respecting the places they live......



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good point Phil


IIRC the doofus' that ran their trucks off the haul road to retrieve caribou they shot weren't of color. don't know if they were GI's or not, don't rembember and don't care.


there are good and bad examples of hunting in every race, and every occupation.

the stupid ones need to pay the price, not everyone in a group they can be identified with.


howevever it does seem in this instance tribal elders have seriously eroded their ability to be self investigative or accountable to see that justice is served. They are either inept or aiding and abetting in this case, either way it does little in the way to enchance their goal of self determination.


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