Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Custom Rifles & Wildcats Photos of a "my-built " .22 Cheetah - and how I form the cases

Obviously,the most basic concepts in regards to case length + bullet length,being housed within a repeater's magbox and in conjunction with a harmonious throating arrangement escapes you.

The pics are well beyond conclusive...give 'em another peek and cypher on the obvious.

I reckon I can hang more,if the jist continues to escape you.

Just 15 years.Piker time.The littlestick impression is kinda cute.
There are no flys on the 22-250 AI, fine round.Less work I agree.I didnt want to give the impression That I dont like it.I like them all.I have two Cheetahs am building a third and have either set up or helped to set up about 5 others.All shot bugholes over 4200.Im thinking 308 BR brass has pretty much gone the way of the doodoo bird.So its pretty much ballistic gack as Dober would say.
dave

Hey if a guy is into pissing up ropes,a tightnecked CHeetah is a wonderous vehicle. I'd rather be on the top looking down(pissing down the rope),than be on the bottom looking up. I've still no qualm crafting CHeetah hulls via R/P 243Win parents and the BR/UBBR never showed me anything.

In a capacious .224,the 22-250AI is very,very tough to whoop,if weighing the whole enchilada.

Especially when assembled with some thought. My A5 penchant is a given,though it's nice to pay an m40A1 handle some respect.



140MOA of ele is a trifle overkill on something that gobbles up distance so easily,but it do track nicely and the lack of recoil makes trace/impact a breeze to catch from most positions/distances.

Some COAL illuminations.(pun intended)



L-R:

22CHeetah,22-250AI,Swift(SAAMI),7-08,6mmRem,6mmRem Ackley Improved,25-284. For those who miss the obvious,not all share like COAL latitudes. For conversation,a dummy 22-06AI is far left.

All things ain't equal.

Loaded length means little to me.All mine are vermin rigs and are single shots.The 308 BR case is actually a few .001s smaller than the 243 just ahead of the extractor groove.All true Cheetah reamers reflect this.Nice pic.Always liked a GP handle.
dave

A singleshot Killing Rifle never made any sense to me,nor could I argue in favor of painting one's self purposely into a corner. A singleshot slow twist CHeetah,is alotta paint and in a small corner.

Haven't ever seen CHeetah dies,that wouldn't size in accordance to a CHeetah chamber,nor have I seen modest butt diameter differences matter. Will a reformed and neck turned 243Win hull form fully and completely in a CHeetah chamber? Yes...and with every press of the trigger.



Will a PN 24" 3-grooved 1-8" 22-250AI shudder at the thought of gunning alongside a CHeetah of any twist or barrel length? Nope. Will it giggle long and loud as it feeds from it's belly and drives knots at nosebleed distances? Yep. Is an HS DBM and it's extry COAL latitude superflous in the application? Nope...bullets is getting longer,not shorter,in this day and age.

If the CHeetah was a Better Mouse trap I'd be all over it,but she's a series of concessions and such things are tough to get giddy about.

The A1/HTG/GP remains one of my least favorite handles,but I suffer nostalgic romance now and again. The A5 smokes it hard.

A 24" 3-grooved 1-8" Lilja 22-250AI in a BDL,ain't too hard to suffer. Nor is a 23" 1-7.7" Kreiger in a fluted #4 Classic(HS DBM again).



Excellence ain't an accident.

Gotta admit, I giggle every time I see that hat.......grin

Good to have you back bigstick.I thought you got banned.
dave

Where we at on singleshot turnbolt,slow twisted CHeetah's being all the "rage"?(grin)

Welcome back from me as well. I recognized the writing style immediately and the markings on the rifles were the final giveaway.

As for back into the conversation. I also formed my Cheetah brass from 243. Snap to do and worked great. I also am a fan of the repeaters. If I wanted a single shot, I would start with a good falling block action.

So far, my 22 Cheetahs and 22-250AI's have been 1 in 12 twists and I have been really fun on rodents and coyotes out to 500 yards. The gunsmith that has been doing some work for me of late shoots some amazing groups at 1,000 yards with 1 in 8 twist 22/6mm AI rifles so I will be giving this a try soon.

A 24" 22-250AI 1-9" will push the 75A-Max at 3500fps on the nose(moly/'15). With a 250yd zero(+1.6" at 100yds),it burns sub 18 minutes to the 1000yd line and drifts but 6 minutes in a full 10mph at the same distance. She's less than 26MOA to the 1200yd line and right at 1500fps,which'd be a ways from slipping subsonic.

That assuming 4500' elevation,which's prolly a happy "average".

The .224" 75A-Max rates building a rifle around,though the 22-6mmAI would be amongst my last choices. She's splendid in a 2.5" COAL 223AI turnbolt.

BC, how long does it take to go through all those steps to get a piece of brass

I can't remember.

With the exception of one coyote and a couple of groundhogs - I only shoot a shot or two most years to check to see it's on target (it's never moved) and then all I've ever shot is one shot per deer.

I never intended it as a varmint rifle. It's a rifle that probably averages between 5 and 10 shots a year - max. Some years I didn't even bother to check the zero - I just shot it three times - and killed three deer. It was meant to be a deer rifle.

Once I found the load I liked - I spent an afternoon about 15 years ago loading up a couple of hundred rounds. I'm not even close to needing to do it again.

I have a lot of other different rifles that like to go out on dates with me too - I can't give my heart to just one. The next bunch of game I shoot will be with my 375 H&H - just to get used to it. I hope it kills as well as the CHeetah does.

The CHeetah will likely become my three daughter's main rifle.

Impressive numbers.And would surely be dandy beyond 600 yards.
But my working rifles seldom go beyond 600.
Im thinking you said to me many years ago that in the days before lazers something that shot that flat was very useful.
I still find it to be so and worth the effort for me.
Theres just something about a hand swaged 52g benchrest bullet running 4000+fps,impacting a 10lb woodchuck through a 30x spotting scope, I'll never get out of my system.And I've seen it many hundereds of times.
For the kind of vermin work we do here,I still to this day, dont think it can be beat.No pissing no ropes.
dave

I use a Neil Jones die body with replacable neck bushings and take BR brass down in 4 steps.No lube.Then you have to get the neck the right size for turning.Then you have to turn it.Then you have to fireform it.Should be able to get a 243 case in one hit.The 243 case will save you some work .
We have hunted blowing cases.Its that accurate.Kinda fun killing stuff and blowing cases at the same time.
dave

BCBrian,
So out of all the rifles you have shot big game with.Would you say your CHeetah is a better one shot killer?Alittle reading for ya.
http://www.gsgroup.co.za/22x64.html
dave

Rest assured,as distances close,performance ain't compromised.

You taste a fast twisted 75A-Max and get back to me,regarding Goo and slipping conditions.

You'll be beating the ends of your slow twist tubes shut and throwing them over a cliff,so noone else has to suffer similar fate.(grin)

Close as I can get right now.A 1-8 twisted 243.

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I just picked up a box of Barnes 62 grain Varmint Grenades
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYigC49tnh8
Be interesting to see of they will shoot with my 65g Hollister BR bullets.

Last summer I did pretty good with the 6mmPPC.Really shines for 300 and under.


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Its all good.
dave

An 8" 243win is a rather capable machine. Feed her any 105 A-Max yet?

As a bare minimum,increased rotational velocity do in fact increase the carnage. 50's via 1-7" at 4K,launch Goo with aplomb...but the 75's steal the show for downrange thunder.

A 105g A-Max eh?Ill keep that in mind.Haven't had much time to monkey with the 243 yet.But its turn will come.
Grossest bullet I ever saw was a Sierra 63g Semi Spitzer out of a Swift.Ballistic turd for down range but we had a unique name for it.
We called it the window bullet.
Every chuck we hit,it put a window in.A big one.
dave